The BESH are powering ahead on a gin and prosecco fuelled hover board, in the general direction of 2030

[barkingtreefrog]

Rules of entry: must be ttc #1 for over a year, be suitably evil and hag-like, and submit your BESHtionnaire for our approval. If you are a baby duster or a hun, this ain't the thread for you.

In order to join the BESH you MUST be over 30 and TTC for baybee no. 1 for over a year, be ok with swearing, shout CUNT at the world on a daily basis and howling at the moon should be a regular occurrence. BESHtionnaires must be submitted - no admittance allowed without it (we just want to snigger at your lesbian crush - it's true).Â

Revised BESHtionnare for reference

1. Do you like gin? (This is compulsory, you must say 'Yes')

2. Men - are you a gold digger or a cradle snatching cougar?

3. Baybee-making - to put a baybee in your tumtum, which hole do you use:
   a) weewee
   b) poopoo
   c) foofoo
   d) none, you just pray to the baby Jebus.

4. Testing - when someone wonders if they should test for updiff (pg), do you:
   a) bellow 'POAS!' at them non-stop and punch them repeatedly in the kidneys till they wet themselves anyway.
   b) Sprinkle them with babydust and send them hugs and kisses on lickle baby angel wings.

5. Is R2D2:
   a) an adorable robot from Star Wars.
   b) the source of all evil.

6. Number of pets?

7. Inappropriate (read: weird) crush of shame?

8. Lesbian crush?

9. How much money have you spent on sticks you then urinate on?
   a) Oh nothing, I'll probably catch first time and then get the doctor to confirm it.
   b) Over 100 quid
   c) I opened an account on ebay solely for the purpose of purchasing sticks

10. Which of these sentences is appalling:
    a) Off to see the consultant today!!! So excited!!!!!
    b) Gud luck hun sprinkling babydust for ya lol xxx
    c) both of the above

11. How barren are you?
    a) childless and TTC for at least one year
    b) one child and TTC #2 for at least two years
    c) I've been trying for 2 cycles and the wait is driving me mad!

If (c) then the BESH is not the thread for you.

Ha ha! That was me with the song link fizz, I loved it!

Big fat bumped pregger at work was in today to discuss her maternity handover. Bitch.

I did the C25k when I returned to running after a long enforced lay off. I would say from everything I've been told that running is a no, however if you're just starting the C25k programme I think that would be fine as it builds up sensibly and you're not pushing it. You'd probably still be in the run /walk stages over the ivf. My mate the single accidental differ who is due any day did it with me and she was definitely not a runner, had never run in her life.

Good luck for tomorrow chez, I hope every single part slots beautifully into place. It's about time something did.

I thought somfucking was a typo from so fucking?!

Hope you get going soon rain.

Chucking more in the direction of the gorgeous Fab.

yes 'somfucking' I think is a typo for 'so fucking'. I was so delighted with it I forgot to say that we have a 'so fucking smug differ at work'. Is there any other kind? Apart from the PESH, of course.

Thanks for the thoughts on the C25k. I think I will start it gently and can always do the walking option if it interferes with the cycle.

Hey hags!

Fab sending you hugs...

Barking omg. So soon. I totally know what you mean re: having a plan and knowing when the headfuckery will be over, whatever the outcome. However, I always thought I would be looking into adoption rather than IvF (no reason, just something I thought when I was young and naive and never actually considered I could be infertile) and here I am... I guess you never know and plans keeps us sane and that's all good.

Badb I know what you mean. I felt exactly the same when my RMC tests came back normal. The doctor had to keep reassuring me but it was a good thing!

Hags, I will be ovulating this week end and Mr Erica and I are in different countries again. We have decided to not allow this to happen again for at least three months but man, this wait feels so long... TTC starts again third week of March, first IVF could happen in July!

Erica same here, I was so naïve! I even remember looking at mates of my ex who were older than me, who had been through a number of failed ivf cycles, and thinking they were crazy, why put yourself through that when you can just adopt.... I even went through a phase when I figured I'd adopt rather than try for my own anyway (my parents were foster parents, I went through my childhood with many, many extra siblings).

All that went out of the window when I met DCW and the whole starting a family thing became a real thing not just an idea...

Yep, plans can change, but having a plan is good for the sanity .

Fingers crossed you don't need that ivf in July because just being in the same country will be enough to make the magic happen .

fab, are you keeping busy, lovely?

Er, what happened to naive? It looked fine when I wrote it!!!

Exactly the same experience ... i couldn't help by think 'Poor love. Why are they putting themselves through this? I could not bear the stress, no way'. Which how much I know/knew :)

Oh, it would be lovely for the magic of the laparoscopy and being in the same country to work... But IVF being therrr is such a comfort. Yes, plans keep us sane! :)

Good luck today Cherry, the scratch is painful but over quickly thankfully.

Wow Barking that is very quick - hoe are the piles? Is your body ready for the onslaught?

Fizz regarding c25k my clinic says definitely don't take up new exercise while going through ivf but you can continue doing exercise you've previously been doing until you feel ready to stop. The drucks can make you feel very tired and my clinic are insistent that you listen to your body throughout this time. It's not the time to push yourself physically particularly doing something you're not used too. That said daily exercise is good but think more along the lines of walking etc.

I feel in limbo at the moment - just waiting to test again on Thursday so I can stop the drucks at least and get my hormone crash over and done with. Think I'm doing ok then saw an announcement from my nephew on Facebook about his impending child's birth in 5 weeks time and had an instant gut wrenching feeling if jealousy. God it's horrible. Still don't want to speak to anyone and suspect I'm just hiding out at home to escape. I never wanted to adopt and have always been obsessed with genetics and actually having a child with my genes. And that's just not going to happen now and I'm gutted. Just gutted.

Thanks hags, heading off to the clinic shortly, just enjoying some sofa time in my PJ's. I've worked far too hard this last week, had a telling off from ROCH and then woke up this morning full of cold. OK OK, I get it!

My folks are staying over tonight though and I'm also looking round at the mess and lack of house work that has been achieved lately with a sigh!

There's no accounting for how or why we put ourselves through all this stuff hey? I just think if we never tried we'd regret it later. Giving it your best punt is all we can do, still, here we are.

Fab love this is massive for you guys, I'm not surprised you're in limbo. Give yourself time to grieve and take care of yourself, it will get better but it's OK to feel all these things. You have to go through them to come out the other side. Much better to deal with it than shut it away. Xxx

Fab do you have access to counselling from the clinic? It's a horrible grieving process and talking to someone who is paid to sit there and listen might help. Counselling really helped me more than I thought it would after the iui mc. It's so, so unfair that you're having to face this, but you will get through it. Right now things are as hellish as they're ever going to be - on top of all this shit being so raw and right on top of you right now you're still pumped full of hormones so everything will be horribly magnified. I really wish there was something I could do to help.

Btw, thanks for asking, piles still an issue. Finally got a gp appointment for this evening, fun times . Poor DCW has seen no action for a month thanks to iui/uti/thrush/piles..... And I think I ovulated today (cd19 so iui obviously didn't jump start me to a regular cycle) so we've missed our list minute miracle bfp. Oh well. Wasn't exactly holding out any hope. Feel a lot better in myself though, reckon I'm physically ready for the ivf, and after the nurse this afternoon and acupuncture this evening I reckon I'll have the menkul temporarily under control as well .

chez thinking of you, legs akimbo (that would sound so wrong anywhere but here).

Good to hear you're ready to go mentally Barking - it's a tough ride but hopefully it will all be worth it for you.

I do have access to counselling at my clinic - I have 2 'free' sessions. I've got to go up to London to do it and I'm not quite ready for that. I'll see if I can get an appointment next week.

So.. single accidental instadiffer is in labour . Repeatedly telling myself not to think about what it would have been like if I had my new baby right now. Still dreading the actual announcement. On the plus side it means we now have two dogs . Well, at least until she asks for her back. Which DCW thinks will be a while...

How did it go today cherry?

chez I'm hoping you're in bed too exhausted to post because the scratch, the mock transfer and the donor progress were all good, you're off the evil drucks and your cervix behaved itself.

Woo needles tonight was good, and she's given me the number of a hypnotherapist after I talked to her about the mind body fertility connection book and my concerns about the emotional block. Can't say I'm not throwing everything at this...

Fab understandable that you're not yet ready to face travelling into and around London, especially before you're off the drucks. An appointment next week sounds like an excellent plan though . Keep being kind to yourself.

Apols for the delayed report, been playing hostess with the mostess this eve. Oh hags, thanks for asking, my poor foof! A bit of a scary day today complete with weird out of body experience... Not sure if it was the entonox or the pain but I'm well freaked out all the same!

I sort of expected it wouldn't be quite plain sailing after TX last time but this one with a bigger catheter turned out to be a whole other level of ow. Not far into stuff I was sucking away on the ol gas and air and it was getting pretty hurty when everything started to get very far away and I was suddenly hurtling backwards down a long corridor at break neck speed away from the room and the nurses. I couldn't see or hear them anymore; I tried gripping the nurse's hand to let her know something was up but I couldn't hang on. I felt totally lost in this cavern of weird ambient light. All I could think was to keep breathing and to keep fighting. After a bit the nurse's faces swam into view with striking déjà vu -I could have sworn this has come to me in a recurring dream like this before - and this millisecond soundbite was stuttering on repeat until stuff came back into half hazy focus, the conversation resumed just where it left off and I could hear them again. Slowly I was back in the room and back in my body. So fucking scary!

The whole thing felt like 5 mins... Turns out 45mins all this was going on for. I have some crazy dog leg shaped bend in my cervix which means they literally have to grab a hold of it to stabilise it while they wiggle the stuff through.

I've been prescribed sedation for TX. No messing! Or rather, I won't know about the messing. All that and I've been fine after though, few little cramps but nothing exciting. And the good news is I can come off the norehisterone today too, hurrah! Nice drucks ahoy.

Promise to catch up with everyone tomorrow, right now I must head to bed, sorry

Sorry you had a rough time cherry. I think euro had a nasty experience too so she might be able to offer you some advice. Lots of rest for you tonight missy!

Oh my goodness cherry, sedation next time sounds like a plan! Glad this wasn't the real thing. Do you know anything about the eggs yet? Do you get the full haul?

Wow Cherry that sounds insane - definitely sedation for transfer sounds right for you!

Erm hags.........BFP! I've done 2 and they agree....

FAB oh my Fucking god!!!!! wahooooooooo!!!!!!!!

I'm in total shock!!!!!!!!

I am literally so fucking happy for you hag, this has made my day!! Are you of to the clinic again later?

chez that sounds like an X Files worthy experience, sorry it wasnt a pleasant experience, I'm glad they will give you proper season for the next bit.

oh hags, you lovely lovely women, I have such a good feeling about this next cluster!

I am literally so fucking happy for you hag, this has made my day!! Are you of to the clinic again later?

chez that sounds like an X Files worthy experience, sorry it wasnt a pleasant experience, I'm glad they will give you proper season for the next bit.

oh hags, you lovely lovely women, I have such a good feeling about this next cluster!

so happy my phone posted twice!

Literally just fits bumped the air!!! Wahooooooo! Oh Fab that's brilliant!

fab - oh my god! Fan-fucking-tastic news to get first thing on a Thursday!! I'm thrilled for you!

cherry, Jesus H Christ - bizarre experience, and yes to the sedation for sure!

Waaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!!!!!! Fuuuuuuck!!!!!!

AMAZING news!!!!!!!

I don't think I'm going to stop grinning all day!!!!!