ttc after mc- the best shit place to be! #2

[chasingtherainbow]

Roll up roll up... onto a new thread. Keep those lucky bfp' s coming and unmumsnetty hugs all round.

As Charlie said, it's to allow more blood to flow to the uterus but when you google it, there is very mixed opinions. I must stress it is 75mg aspirin which is designed for people who have had strokes or heart attacks and not your bog standard 300mg pain relief one.

But yes you can buy it over the counter. I made the decision with my DP and we felt that potentially I was at more risk of miscarriage by not than if I did take it. I do know that I clot very very quickly so taking blood from me is a nightmare.

I have agonised over this - no idea if doing the right thing - but I do know i am more scared of having a 3rd mc.

That said I am now seeing the doctor next Tuesday and I will mention it and see what they say.

I feel like I'm damned either way to he honest!!!

And just to add, I also was tested after my ERPC and there was absolutely nothing wrong with the tissue . It definitely wasn't a defect of any sort. If it had been then like Charlie I probably wouldn't be taking the aspirin.

brummie just in case it seemed like I was having a go at you, I absolutely was not. I was just trying to run through the pros & cons. As I said, some people swear by it so it's really a personal decision. Since every stat says that in at least 50% of MCs no particular cause can be identified I think there's absolutely no issue in throwing whatever at the problem! Multiple MCs are a complete b*tch and make you question anything and everything about your body & your dh's swimmers.

Good luck with the GP... mine was unsurprisingly a combo between helpful & hopeless... she kept saying "I suppose you're completely panicking" to which I felt like saying "WELL I AM NOW!" I told her I was cramping and she was like "ok well let us know if you start bleeding there's nothing you can do" which I know is true but a little bedside manner would have been ok too :/
But after 2MCs I just wanted to get it all in the system. I've also already referred myself to maternity at St Marys, which is pretty close to me so hope the MWs get back to me soon with booking in etc. I just want to be in the system!

brummie sorry if I asked already, but are you going to book a priv early scan?

Good luck both of you BFP-ers!!

Both of mine were chromosomal problems (different ones) but if I suspected it was a clotting issue I would be tempted by aspirin too - apart from the fact I am severely allergic to it!

I've just been googling and found a research paper that I found comforting:

Traditionally, the diagnosis of recurrent pregnancy loss is not made until a woman has lost at least three pregnancies. Overall about 20% of pregnancies end in miscarriage due to a non-recurrent cause. So, the risk of two consecutive losses is 20% of 20% or 4% of women will experience two losses. The odds of three losses would be 0.16%

Two unrelated losses in a row is extremely bad luck. Three would be crazy.

Ooh no Charlie not at all - I'm terrified at thought of taking aspirin but I'm also terrified of not taking it!!!

If doc tells me no, I probably will stop - I'm torn. I know it can help but I haven't been tested.

As for an early scan - I move house to Redditch next Friday so I will be a brummie no more... As I need consultant care I will come under Worcester Royal Hospital. I believe you can self refer to their EPAU so going to try that!! Redditch have downgraded their maternity services to midwife only so high risk are looked after at Worcester.

So will ask and see what answer I get....

That's pretty much what I'm hoping envious and monten... it was something I read in Prof Regan's book, that she had a patient come to her having had three separate trisomies and asked what she could do, to which Prof Regan answered unfort not much. So I'm just praying that this one is going to be ok.
I'm off to my company's office on the continent for the next 2 weeks, armed with my european health care card in case anything goes wrong! I'm going to tell our office manager I'm preg as I'm totally going to be calling her if I have to go to the hosp... no way I'm negotiating a possible 3rd MC in a foreign language. Then my 8w private scan the day I get back! At least I will hopefully be distracted while I'm away.

brummie if you don't mind me asking why are you high risk? Is having 2 mcs enough? My GP seemed to think I'd be assigned to the high risk group at st marys but then someone on either this board or the recurrent mc board (I can't remember who) said she didn't think I would be.

Have spent the afternoon searching out all my records from MCs 1 & 2 for when I get a booking in appt. FUN.

No problem at all. I'm not high risk due to mc's - I'm high risk because I've had a cone biopsy and a letz on my cervix and I've got extensive scar tissue which means I could struggle to dilate so it's pretty much a c section for me. Which I was told at the time of the procedures. Also had several colposcopies following those and my scarring always gets commented on!

I was classed as high risk under Birmingham and was consultant care due to all that. The mc was just an added brucie bonus!!!

oh thanks, you reminded me to print out cone biopsy letter for the midwife. Honestly, I wish my hoo-ha would just bloody behave itself!!!

Hah know the feeling!!!!!!!

charlie which St Marys? I'm near ish to Manchester but come under Pennine Trust, and have wondered if I could go to St Marys instead if I fall pregnant again.

gr33dy St Marys Paddington (London). Same as the Duchess of Cambridge, although perhaps in an ever so slightly less attractive room...

thanks for the stats envious. I'm going to assume that since MC2 was a trisomy there's no underlying reason so therefore my chance is only 0.8!

Thanks for the stats Envious, very reassuring.

I have all my fingers and toes crossed that theses recent BFP stay sticky and healthy. I've had one MMC and that seems like plenty enough. I've read about the Asprin link too and in your situation brummie i think i'd take it too. I really hope it helps.

So i'm totally toturing myself, please tell me i'm not the only one!
MMC was 26 days ago. I stopped bleeding 14 days ago and we started DTD a day or two later. On a normal cycle i would have ovulated around then which would have meant i'd be due to test this thrusday. My last BFP i got 3 days before my period was due so i tested today - BFN. However, i think i ovulated 5 days ago which obviously wouldn't show a BFP. We accidently concieved DS and caught first month with the baby we lost which is all getting my hopes up but after reading some of the stories on here, i really shouldn't.

Am i mad to even think i could concieve this cycle? I'm scared if i get my period its going to hit me really hard :( i'm likely to keep testing intermittently for the next 2 or so weeks and then be gutted when AF arrives. It's the only thing keeping me going though. Sorry it's so me me me.

Haribo it's not crazy at all, my good friend had to have a termination for medical reasons at 14 weeks. They were devastated but adamant they wanted their long for baby.

My friend started to stress that AF never turned up, she was convinced something was wrong. There was, she was pregnant again. Her gorgeous DS turned up months later.

So it does happen!!!!

Haribo I can completely understand where you're coming from. I've just finished my wtf cycle and was convinced that I would conceive. Unfortunately, I didn't and was gutted. I had a crappy, tearful week last week and it brought all the emotions of my MMC to the surface again.
I really hope that you do get your BFP but if you don't, you will do very soon. Keep trying and take care xx

I was so excited for my May baby, i'm a May baby, i had all these plans for the summer with two DC's. Now all i want is a healthy baby at the end of this journey, i don't care about gender or month they are born! MC really does change your priorities i guess.

Thanks everyone. Fingers crossed for you too envious. I was really impatient for the bleeding to stop too. 1) because it was a physical constant reminder and 2) because i wanted to start ttc. I hope your bleeding doesn't last too long and we both get lucky this cycle.

I'm sorry fifi, i can totally understand how you feel and i imagine i will feel exactly the same. I really hope this is your cycle.

Haribo, not crazy at all, I felt exactly the same as you. I don't think I ovulated so didn't have much chance but if you did why not! But if not, it could still happen really quickly. Hope this is your month.
Brummie I agree with Haribo, in your situation I would probably do the same.

Cross post Haribo, again I felt and feel exactly the same. Last time I was really bothered about gender, now all I want is a healthy baby.

Thanks purple. Did you catch on your 2nd cycle afterwards? How are they symtoms coming along?

Yes Haribo I did so I feel really lucky despite missing it that first month.
Today I have felt sick, tired and a bit weepy. I am off most foods which means I seem to be losing weight rather than putting it on. It's still not as bad as last time but I am taking it all as reassurance.

haribo as others have said there is every chance of conceiving in WTF cycle and plenty people are here to testify to that. I know very well the feeling of clinging on to that hope in the dark days post mc and worrying how I would fall apart if I didn't get pregnant. My wtf cycles were crazy too, with loads of symptoms. But I didn't get pregnant in either one. And I survived. You will too. Whatever happens, you will chin up and get on with it and one say your baby will come and you won't be able to imagine it any other way.

Thanks for the support and stats ladies. That certainly helps. Somehow knowing having two unrelated mcs in a row is really rare has helped too. After the first (termination for chromosomal abnormality) I took some comfort in the fact it was quite rare. I found having a miscarriage people were almost a bit less sympathetic - you do get the 'oh well, it's quite common, isn't it' line a lot. Somehow knowing we were damn unlucky helps -like I have a right to be cross at the world!

Thanks everyone, I feel better tonight than I did this morning and that's thanks to you lovely lot.