TTC for 10 months, and all the rest. 10 plussers welcome.

[MuddyWellyNelly]

New thread full of the most amazing women.

Thanks Berry and Critter.
Critter, your post made me a bit teary! I really hope you're right, it's all I have ever wanted.

Nelly, I can see the pic now - that is definitely a line! Eeep! X

Hi Coco

I don't have any advice to offer you as I have never experienced this, but didn't want to read and run!

Nice to 'meet' you

Thanks for posting sam.
Nice to meet you too.

Whoohooo for that nicely striped hobnob, nelly!

Coco I never had implantation bleeds, whenever I thought this is af, it was. So no use. In serious doubt, invest in internet cheapies!

Waves at fellow af sufferer, euro. Mine returned at 14 weeks (and lembie's stil ebfed). The hormones do nasty stuff. I got fully unreasonable both times - and wondered about hobnobs in the 7 weeks between...

coco I remember you, and your monkey :) my experience has been to have a bit of spotting before AF/BFP was due, but I looked at my records and with my 2nd to last pregnancy I did havebright red bleeding with clots at around 4-5 weeks, with my last pregnancy I had bleeding at 6 weeks, hope that helps, although a pee stick is the best way :)

Hi Coco

I remember you and your monkey too! So sorry to hear you're still in TTC crapland.

According to the internet, implantation bleeding usually happens around 5 - 8 dpo. I have had what looks like implantation bleeding with an IVF cycle that turned out to be negative.

I've also had a mega light short period after an anovulatory cycle.

I've had spotting with a pregnancy that ended in mc at 5 and a half weeks.

And I've had bright red short bursts of bleeding (including clots and cramps) with my current (maybe shortlived) pregnancy at 5 weeks and 5 weeks 3 days, which sounds like Buzzy's experience.

I guess what this means is that every pregnancy/cycle/person is different. You might be pregnant or you might not, and infuriatingly, the only way to tell is to do a test.

One other thing. My doctor said that bleeding in early pregnancy is almost always physical, caused by so many developing blood vessels mashing together (his phrase) ie, not necessarily caused by something wrong being with the embryo.

critter the first time I bleed the pregnancy got to 10 weeks and I do think having the flu jab is what ended it due to immune issues as there was nothing wrong with the fetus when tested and the 2nd time the pregnancy produced BB so it doesn't always end badly, my fingers are crossed for you on Friday when you will hopefully see a heartbeat or maybe it might be a little too early

Evening all.

Was lovely to meet my first ten plusser in person today - and minimad didn't disgrace himself or convince Nelly that this whole ivf lark was a big mistake. I look forward to meeting up with you again with bump and then with baby

critter hang in there lovely xx

coco welcome back but sorry you're still in the midst of it all. I had loads of spotting every cycle so only really thought I was pregnant when there was very little iyswim. A test is unfortunately the only way....

sam my approach at work was to only talk about preg stuff when asked. I was the only person in the office not to have kids though so a bit different. Hopefully she'll settle down soon.

joy your bil has form for being thoughtless and no wonder you reacted that way. Them keeping a pregnancy quiet is one thing, lying about trying for another child is unnecessary. I still feel pangs at announcements and scans sometimes, no matter how unreasonable of me that is.

Big hugs to cos and fox and ray - good new name by the way - and all those I haven't managed to write a personal message to.

On my way to see nelly this morning I paused and looked up to see a lovely rainbow. It made me think of all of you and our hopes and dreams. Cheesy but true. Shall try to post the picture.

Hi Coco, so sorry to hear you are still in ttc turmoil. I think Fox had a bleed which she thought was AF but after getting suspicious she tested and she saw a positive. Unfortunately that was a CP though. As others have said, I think you need to do a test as that's the only way to tell. I really hope you get an irondiff.

Critter - am thinking about you a lot and hoping that Friday brings good news. I'm glad the bleeding has stopped. And I don't blame you for telling work. Blimey you have been through so much , I think it's important they know. It's good you have felt you have been able to tell them. I have just been paranoid that I would lose my job if my work knew about miscarriages and I was trying to get pregnant. But life would have been so less stressful if I had been able to tell them. And you are so right about 'people are weird' category. That has really helped to think of them like that. I think some of their comments over the years have shown such lack of thought that for some reason, they are just one couple that really get to me!

Nelly - i told you my internet cheapie never got darker. Perhaps invest in one of those rip off ones although from what i hear stay away from the digital ones as apparently they make people panic when they don't go up in weeks.

Buzz - thanks, that's good to hear in an odd way that you still feel like that now.

Berry - you should definitely spam the thread when you 're in hospital that's what we are here for.

Euro - sorry to hear about the persistent periods. Mine are like that ...well apart from when they need to turn up for the start of ivf but I keep worrying that it's going to turn up now, when they shouldn't because they are so persistent. As for being in the 20%... plussers are special, we like to be abnormal!

Mad - i have a real thing about rainbows at the moment but that is a double rainbow you have taken! and perhaps that is a sign for nelly?!! I have kept my picture of a double rainbow as my screensaver on my phone since June. If anyone wants a good giggle, this famous double rainbow youtube video is worth a watch:

Wow, Joy I just watched that!
He seems to be enjoying that rainbow a bit too much! That is until he starts crying, lol. ????

So it is joy! I didn't realise when I saw it this morning. I had to look back at the photo just now. It must be a sign. And surely a double rainbow is double the luck for all of you

Mad that's lovely! And minimad couldn't have been more cute and charming, so definitely not put off. He's adorable and you were pretty cool yourself .

Gosh *Joy that is weird about BiL. I will be generously happy for them but did they somehow think you weren't going to find out....

Euro sorry about AF deigning to turn up so soon and the mood that's come with it. You definitely deserved a bigger break from it. And Lemon too. Mother Nature is just being mean to 10 plussers.

Coco lovely to see you! But sorry about wtf cycle. I'm no practical help but I hope it's what you suspect.

Your colleague sounds rather boring, Sam. She will probably bore herself soon though and then she will stop!

Critter my info from serum talks about the blood vessel thing too. I really hope that's what is going on with you just now. Will be thinking of you on Friday.

You calling me cheap, Buzzy?? . I've just bloody ordered more cheapie tests too. However now I have period like pains so I'm sure it's not going to end well. Still, less than 48 hours and I'll know. Thank god, you all say.

Oh yes I just saw the double rainbow part, cool! Being careful what I say in front of Joy, but I'm ignoring your reference to doubles .

I think I'd missed that earlier when you said yours didn't get darker. That's reassuring. Though just now I choose to believe AF is on it's way. And will probably feel that way for the next two days.

Agree that thread-spamming when hospitalised is the way forward Berry. We will reply in shifts .

Thank you for the warm welcome and thank you for the words of encouragement. I'm not going to test for a bit yet but it's nice to think it might be an option.

I haven't thought my monkey for ages!
Critter sorry about the scary bleeding. Fingers crossed it's nothing to worry about.
Nelly, hope Friday brings you a pair of stripes!

I've missed you lot x

Double rainbows, double Joy/trouble twice, I say...

Sleepy morning after lembie didnt act as his usual alarm clock do the day started "late" and rushed

Hi All...can I join. Been TTC for 12 months now, erratic cycles and an underactive thyroid are not making life easy. I also had chylmdia (sp) about 9 years ago, so very worried that this will have affected my tubes . Had our first doc appt a week ago to discuss - I am being sent for a day 21 blood test (CD21 to be determined by clearblue fertility monitor given my irregularity) and DH going for SA.

Really need a kick up the butt...had a bit of a (drunken) breakdown last night - we went for a family dinner and my Dad starting making comments about when we are going to have kids - cue deathly silence at the table as my Sister is well aware we have been trying for ages and are getting a bit down about it). Anyway, was getting upset in the car on the way home and DH sometimes just doesn't seem to get it...he is always about 5 steps behind where I am and it gets really frustrating . He is so unemotional about it all as well, basically just sees it as a science experiment I think. Am so tired by it all, and know that realistically, this is probably only the start.

Anyway, sorry for the moanfest....(what a great way to introduce myself!!), I am hoping I can join the chat here for some support when needed and give some support as well - a positive step, that doesn't involve having sex!

Hi Chundercats, of course you can join us. It's a good place to hang out in tough times. The 12 month mark is hard: most of us found that the toughest milestone. It can also be difficult deciding whether to share what's going on or not. I've chosen to keep it private and not tell family , but the consequence is that I have to put up with insensitive comments sometimes.

The chlamydia is an interesting one. Penny at Serum would probably consider this a barrier to conception and would have you on high doses of antibiotics.

In hobnob news. Stripe is darker and started appearing almost immediately. I now feel sick but it's emotional turmoil not physical. Can't even begin to believe it and still expecting bad news tomorrow.

Welcome chunder. Good that you're getting things checked out. When you can, I would ask for a referral to a fertility specialist to ask what's going on. Be as pushy as you can, there is a lot of hanging about and time wasting in all of this business. In my experience blokes can take a while to come round on the ttc front. It's frustrating, but he will come round I'm sure eventually (or even better, he won't but you'll be pregnant and the baby will arrive and then he will most certainly come round!) Sorry you're getting annoying comments.

nelly that is amazing amazing news about the line getting darker - but I can imagine how your head must be all over the place. Hold on tight. Wishing tomorrow comes quickly!

ray they don't do presents for Thanksgiving, which is one of my favourite things about the holiday, but the canine will be getting a nice beef marrow bone to gnaw on.

buzz also I wanted to say I am so sorry that you lost that pregnancy at 10 weeks. It is heartbreaking, even though you have beautiful BB, I'm sure you never forget your little one that you lost. I'm so sorry.

hi chunder! I had my fc appointment in aug which showed I had had chlamydia year's ago. I didn't even know I had, and the Dr's never picked up on it. I had been with my 'first' for 12 years (he's got a lot to answer for)
anyway it had a terrible effect on my tubes which broke me, but after picking myself up off the floor I had a lap&dye, and we have just started a round of ivf (day 10 of sniffing). you cannot beat yourself up on the past and what ifs, just push like crazy for referrals and tests to get to the route of things.

Nelly, so excited for you and almost looking forward to tomorrow for you as you are! enjoy tonight x

critter, holding my breath for you too.

hope fox is ok. big hug

sorry im not mentioning everyone, updating via the loo at work (fluffy hq) will say more later.

quick down reg question, I'm day 10 sniffing and 2 days late for period, should I call clinic or is it normal to bleed late? thanks x

Critter glad there's no more bleeding but the cramps must be awful. I'll be thinking of you tomorrow.

Hi Coco, I'm a newbie on the thread so I don't remember you from before. i don't have any experience with implantation bleeds sorry, so can't help you there. What's all this about a monkey?!

Nelly, I can't imagine how nervous you must feel. Period type cramps are very common in early pregnancy so I don't think that's anything to worry about too much. I'm really hopeful that it will be good news for you tomorrow.

Welcome chunder. The 12 month mark is hard as is deciding whether or not to share with people that you're struggling. I have told my family as I had a miscarriage around the 12 month mark and after that I just knew I wouldn't be able to keep it together if anyone asked me if we were planning on having kids. It definitely stops people asking those sorts of questions but it's not always great to have everyone know your business.

Sorry fluffy, I've not done IVF so can't offer any advic. I'd give the clinic a quick call and ask them to confirm for your peace of mind.

nellyooooooooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you are indeed in the family way lines don't get darker unless you are :) I shall keep your deer stalker warm in the oven until tomorrow when it will be official :) I would have thought Penny would give you at least a half decent test??

joy I'm a true bitter old mare :) I don't know if I mentioned MIL's friend who seemed nice to start with then became a nightmare, anyhoo last Christmas I thought I would get in touch with her, I knew she would know I was pregnant through MIL, but what I didn't know was that she had had a baby in the November I just remember being pissed off that MIL had told me about every other persons fucking pregnancy over the years but this one I also sometimes look up my old bitch boss on FB to see if she has had another one she hasn't yet

fluffy I love the idea of you updating us while on the bog, I used to work with a woman who was always on the phone, personal stuff and she would just to the toilet while still yakking away on her phone

chundercats love the name, the word chunder is underused , I think men don't 'get it' as such, and do see it in a more scientific/mechanical way then we do, it took a while for my DH to 'get it'

critter Thank you but the loss at 10 weeks was hard as I had something like a 2% chance of it happening and I dared to believe it might work, yes you remember the ones that didn't make it, the date you found out you were pregnant, due dates, loss dates, I remember having a patient who had 2 daughters both well into their 40's, she then began to tell me about her 4 losses, one was a still birth, I just sat there fighting back the tears and thinking how sad it all was and thinking how it still had an impact on her 45 years later. I cannot begin to imagine what you and Mr C went through with James but I can relate to feeling of frustration and fear that it won't happen again as miscarriage instills those feelings in you, I do hope all will be well for you tomorrow at the scan, will it be in the morning or later on, I think you'll be around the 6 week mark though