TTC for 10 months, and all the rest. 10 plussers welcome.

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New thread full of the most amazing women.

fluffy forgot to say yes call the clinic and see what they advise

No test from Penny. You'd think they'd have thrown one in . Anyway I'm still expecting bad news tomorrow despite some suggestions to the contrary. I Don't trust my own eyes and I certainly don't trust my body.

Critter the canine will love his non-gift. He will be very thankful indeed Huge good vibes for tomorrow,

Oh my Moët is rubbish. Which is what the phone just autocorrected memory to!!Chundercats, everyone is right when they say push for a referral ASAP given potential
Tube issue. Ivf is scary but has great success for tubal issues. How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

Berry thanks for the reassurance re the period pains. So far they are mild but worrying nonetheless.

Fluffy when I took the DR for this DE round I do think it delayed AF. And every time, it's made me bleed a lot
Longer too. I do loo posting too, but no talking!

nelly maybe handing out free tests would really bankrupt Greece will you get the results of your test

No time for long post as just home from work and need food and to sit down and think no thoughts but YAY nelly! Darker can only only be good good news. With cat hairs on

Hi all, and welcome Chunder :). I'm at a similar stage to you Chunder in that we're in cycle 13 and have had the blood tests and semen analysis... So just a little ahead.

Am after a little temping advice.... I have today got my peak ovulation test result on the clear blue dual hormone test (a few days early and before dh goes away, hooray!) - and am wondering how much if a temp rise I should have? Am using the ff app, but I'm still getting my head round how it all works.

Eeek Nelly, exciting! Hope you're feeling okay? Xx

Hi Sam, I've never temped so can't help you there I'm afraid.

Fox, of course I came home and it had faded as they do so now I'm doubting if it really was darker. It's not lighter though. Still completely unbelieving and fully expecting a) arctic hobnob tomorrow b) AF to turn up and c) a sad sounding lady on the phone later who will be doing a sympathetic head tilt when she tells me the result is 0. :(

Oh Nelly tomorrow's phone call is going to be different. It is the same for all of us - preparing for the worst because that's what we're used to. Will be thinking of you tomorrow.

critter I hope things remain uneventful in your household and that tomorrow goes smoothly. I'm sure that patting a dog has proven therapeutic benefits so curl up with Doug and know that we're thinking of you.

Critter - wishing you much love and luck today.

Nelly - also wishing you much luck. AF pains are disconcerting but are also a pregnancy sign that bean(s) are implanting. Penny would tell you it's a good sign.

Buzz- I would be peeved at that as well. Some day I hope I can leave the bitterness behind!

Nelly - you better start believing! That phone call will only confirm what we all already know :D Tests do fade over hours I know cos I kept mini bunnies stripy hobnob in my handbag for 2 or maybe 3 weeks. And it was a proper posh first response one too I have a lovely hat in the slow cooker for you, all tender and ready........

Critter I'm crossing everything and wishing hard for a positive scan today. You must be petrified. Know that I'm thinking of you so much.

Sorry it's such a short message. We've had our own trials and tribulations with mini bunny over the last couple of weeks. Trip to A&E with croup, the hysterical screaming at 45 minutes through the night with a poorly cough and now an inhaler for a week or two and back to relative calm. I've been reading and following with love and support as always.

Oh and Cos have an Xmas with your DH at home or away at a lovely hotel. Go out for a lovely lunch and drink the nicest champagne you can get your hands on. Xmas is not all about kids. Babies have no idea what Xmas is, they expect all their normal things to happen around the chaos of everything else. I remember childless Xmas pain but the reality is not as romantic as the vision (sorry if that's massively insensitive). We actually miss adult Xmas with the long lunch, booze and uninterupted film watching / wii playing. Last year our Xmas was manic and we ended up exhausted, eating a huge lunch in our pjs at 2.30 in 10 mins flat with a crying baby after I had just scooped poo out of the bath... all followed by a tense visit from the in laws (now trying to get us by stealth / guilt DH as we've said just us in our house this year so we can keep mini bunny in her routine in the hope that we can also enjoy a tiny piece of Xmas!) So, go indulge and DO NOT feel guilty :) because next year I predict you will be on poo scooping, baby burping, milk puke dodging duties alongside our nelly, critter, joy, Ray and fox x

Loves and waves xxx

One more thing Nelly I've had terrible cramping with bunny2. I'm still getting the odd weird womble feeling. And in my case I can only liken it to period pain. So I would try not to worry about it if you can. Easier said than done. I still obsess over everything. More so this time. Waiting for things to go wrong because this time was too easy......

Bunny I'm sorry mini has been so unwell. Is she better now? Poor toot and how scary for you. Thank you for the reassurance on the pains, though it's horrid that you feel panicky this time. I had assumed 2nd pregnancies would feel easier.

Joy and Mad thanks for the messages. I am shaking this morning, it's going to be a long day. Everyone is up early!!

Critter I will be willing good news for you even more than for me. I just want it to be alright for you so so much. Transatlantic hand holds and much love.

My a) prediction didn't come true as the hobnob is stripy, clear as day. Aaaahhhhhhhh

I've just put my slow cooker on its "keep warm" setting as the hat is now well and truly ready ;)

She's better, but recovering. Just one of those childhood illness things. It just takes a long time to sort itself after the initial viral infection. Thanks for asking

Funny thing this second surprise pregnancy. I guess as it happened without really trying and has been easy, I keep waiting for the sting in the tail. Thankfully all is well to date. However, as with all 10 plusser pregnancies, I don't think I'll ever truly relax.

Good luck today Nelly and Critter, Xx

Nelly, you are pregnant, those hobnobs are not lying to you. When will you find out of it's one baby or two? Or three??

Joy, you're up early. I hope all is ok.

Bunny, poor mini bunny. I still think it's amazing that you're pregnant again. I wonder what changed to turn you fertile :)

Critter, thinking of you today. Everything is tightly crossed for some positive news.

Thinking of you, critter, everything crossed :)

Nelly, congrats! I am not tiptoeing round anymore, a stripy hobnob on otd means you're pregnant!!! Hurrah. I promise you that phone call will be different. (Not that I know because I made them call SB with lembie's test)

PUPO, ladies, PUPO. I still don't believe it can be true. It's too surreal.

I am in waiting room so will regale you with my husbandly rant. The other night we disagreed on whether he was feeling the same level of stress that I was. I doubted it but he proclaimed himself very worried. Well this morning I've been awake since 4am. Did my test, woke him up to show him the result to which he said "oh it's still there ". I then went off and did my hobbles, came back inside and showered, tried to eat, dried my hair, basically stomped about noisily feeling sick with nerves and he's still asleep I would suggest he is not as stressed as me. Fact.

Nelly, he won't be as stressed as you. All the responsibility lies with the woman but I am sure when the time comes he will shows his emotions. what time do the results come in?? Oh goodness I am nervous for you just because I know this awful wait ....

You've got to admire men's ability to block the stressful things out. It took a long time for me to feel that dh was actually that bothered about our infertility. He did a very good job of showing absolutely no emotion. To be fair, I have never seen him get emotional about anything. He was brought up in a family where men don't show emotion. He won't talk about anything ttc related unless I bring it up and then he's always quite keen to close down the conversation. But, He admitted that it does upset him but he won't let me see it because he thinks it upsets me more. One thing that he can do that I can't is park off certain thoughts so he really doesn't think about it day to day and it isn't constantly on his mind in the way it is with me. I wish I could do that because I think it's a helpful coping mechanism.

Woohoo nelly you are pregnant! The test will just confirm today. I can only imagine how nervous you must still feel though. I would back you all the way against MrN!

Critter I hope so much that you will get good news today. I'm off to Cornwall for the weekend and not sure what the wifi will be like so if I don't come on the thread over the weekend, know that I am thinking about you and hoping for you.

Oh Nelly that's such awesome news. I'm so happy for you. Critter am thinking of you today. Will post properly over w/e. Totally agree with you about DH's though.

Joy isn't the magic 12 weeks around now for you?

nelly oooooh very exciting so when is the blood test, agree with joy its all down to you really so their stress will be different

critter Fingers crossed for you today my lovely

bunny sorry mini bunny is so unwell

Did you make any decisions about Christmas, cos? I do feel quite guilty that we're not spending it with family but sometimes you do have to put yourself first. I suspect I'll probably feel quite miserable on Christmas Day itself as we will be at home and doing nothing special. But hibernating is quite appealing too. A couple of years ago we spent Christmas in a big extended family type way and it hurt so much. There were a few comments from people about how I didn't have the stress of Christmas because we didn't have kids and I felt like a real outsider amongst female relatives, all of whom are mums. This will be our 5th since ttc :( I remember the first one and I was in the 2ww so avoided drinking, ha ha ha!

I'm glad you agree that I definitely have more stress . It's the physical part too, we can't escape it because we are always aware of what our bodies are doing, every twinge and sensation. It is good that DH can switch his mind off though Ray, it's where my hobbles have always been very useful. But it never really goes away, just slips from the absolute forefront of my mind. Not on cue though, and certainly not when I'm in the middle of an IVF cycle or a WTF cycle.

Enjoy Cornwall Berry, hope you get a nice rest, or loads of activities if that's more up your street!

I think you might be right Cos re Joy. Gosh that's an amazing milestone.

Had the test this morning Buzzy and they said to expect results about 2.30. I am trying and failing to remain calm. I have allowed a glimmer of hope to creep in and yet I worry so much that it's still not going to be good news. My current expectation is for it not to be a very high value. And if it is good news I'll just find something else to worry about.

There is no reason to expect a sting in the tail Bunny but I know it's easy to say and way WAY harder to believe. Wishing you another quiet 20-ish weeks and no more mini-bunny scares either.

Massive vibes for Critter for today. We are right here for you