TTC for 10 months, and all the rest. 10 plussers welcome.

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Sorry berry, I phrased it wrongly, I did know you hadn't had a round yet... I hope the lap comes up quickly. Will they base when you get your round on the results of the lap? Glad to know I don't have the only rain-hating canine. Does your dog have a coat? Barbour sell doggy waxed jackets with corduroy collars here for $50, I must be losing my mind to even consider getting one.

buzzy and lemon thank you ladies. Tightest hugs.

joy we want details!

Oh yey and double yey!! Joy defo tell us more we need details! How was it, what did they tell you? What's next? Oh please tell us you are massively relieved and excited, I hope so.

And Critter! Come on little bean. I'm so pleased it's fighting on, I hope this turns out to be a horrible scare caught just at the right time. Seeing a yolk sac is good at this point isn't it? What a rollercoaster. And thanks for your advice, and thanks to Mr C! I feel so awful for letting it affect me so much and feel guilty for letting nieces and nephews down but I really think I'd just sit there on the verge of tears the whole time.

Oh critter, I so hope this works out for you! Keeping my fingers and toes crossed!
I'm just using the paper chart that came with the thermometer, do you know how much of a temp rise I should expect?

Buzzy and Berry, dh gets up at such varied times that I really have no control over when I wake up! Fingers crossed I'll still see something of a pattern...

Joy - yay for the scan, so pleased for you.
Yes, I'm surprised it doesn't mention no fmu on the packets... Off to test now! X

cos don't put yourself through it. Your emotional health is more important! You definitely shouldn't be close to tears.

buzzy I just got the call back from my clinic and my hcg was 6191. The nurse said 'I'm not gonna lie, it's a little low'. But my progesterone was much better, 31 (much better than 6!). She said the best indicator is a scan and that we just have to wait it out until Friday.

sam I would download the fertility friend app, it is very easy and it will calculate for you from the temp rise if it thinks you have ovulated, so you don't have to worry about looking for a pattern yourself.

Okay critter I'll give the app a go... That sounds much easier than trying to interpret it myself!
Do you have to pay in order to get the charts? I downloaded the free one but it doesn't seem to have a section for charts?

critter are you about 5w2d now??

Buzz I am 5+4.

sam I didn't have to pay! Just downloaded the 'fertility friend free charting app'. Is free and works well.

I've got it now critter, we shall see

Critter - thinking of you. The waiting game continues, sigh. But hoping like mad that this little bean hangs on. It must be so hard to put one foot in front of the other right now. Big squeezes, I really hope this is your time. You and Mr C are so special and lovely - you don't deserve this pain.

Den - gosh not another announcement. They really do seem to come out of the woodwork sometimes. I know they are so stingy and hurty...they just are no matter how we rationalise it. So sorry. Good planning for Christmas this year and it seems like you are inspiring others to jump off the Christmas frenzy boat. Big hugs honey.

Cos - I agree with everyone else that you really should consider disappearing this Christmas. Anyone with an inch of compassion would understand and anyone else will just have to lump it. These things should not be inflicted on people if it impacts to this extent. Why not meet your family half way? Invite the important family members for a low key get together at your place before Christmas for a bite to eat / prezzies etc. But then bugger off someplace else just before and during the main festivities? Please don't think you HAVE to torture yourself to make others happy. Although it says so much about you that you do this year in year out.

Euro - centime is just beautiful. I like Fox's word -scrumptious!

Joy - hope that todays scan was a relief and much fun in equal measures. Always thinking of you.

Thanks for asking after baby sar - all is well - a busy little person who likes to throw all items in reach up in the air, attempts to climb out of the cot and likes to squirt water from mouth like a fountain - must admit it's all hilarious though!

critter - you are going through turmoil and you are so generous that you ask about my scan. This is why this is all so unfair because you are too bloody lovely and kind to have all this crap on you. Anyway, I'm so pleased to hear that your bean is developing a yolk. Surely if it was ending, it wouldn't have developed since the scan the other day. And your hcg, is it that low? It was 2000and something on Thursday wasn't it?. I'm wishing with all my might you have just been given the most rocky start to a pregnancy and nothing more. You know I met women at the Argc whose Hcg actually went down and then recovered and went up...some can have rocky starts. come on little bean. How are you feeling?

Cos - you shouldn't feel guilty about letting down nephews and nieces. If it's too painful, it's too painful and I think if your family knew, they would understand. You have to self protect yourself. And thank you for being so sweet to me

Berry - when is your lap in Dec? It must be quite soon. How are you feeling about it?

Thank you for asking ladies. I don't want to harp on considering everything going on with everyone else. It was relief/disbelief over any excitement today. I can't let myself go to excitement in fear bad luck will strike. It was 20 mins before I could even look at the monitor. I was like an ice maiden just staring at the ceiling waiting for her to say something was wrong. But there wasn't. Roy said i looked petrified. I'm very disbelieving and still don't want to get my hopes up and it doesn't feel like this is happening to me. In my head this was impossible. Plusser successes happen to other people, not Roy and me (and i know we are far from being a success story yet). I've had so many bad appointments over many years where there have been massive question marks about my egg quality and/or the quality of our embryos that to suddenly have 2 seemingly healthy looking embryos/fetuses is just surreal. How can that be? [embryo mix up?!]
Anyway, I hope i'm not harping on. I'm trying to, in a very inarticulate way, give hope to everyone who has those god awful feelings of hopelessness and fears it is impossible. I thought we were a lost cause. Anyway, I'm quietly carrying on. I will continue to fret and worry as I'm considered high risk and I keep being reminded about the dangers of twin pregnancies but I feel very grateful for this last shot at the same time.
But more importantly, I care deeply about everyone else on here and what everyone else is going through. I understand that more than i understand anything else. xx

Oh Critter it's all still going in the right direction even if very slowly and scary scary scary. This is much better news than we'd all hoped for but I know it's a long way from ok. We will continue to keep everything crossed super tight. I loved the story of Doug fearing he would melt in the rain. I'm glad he is giving you reason to smile even in this worrying time. Oh lovely Critter I just wish this was easy for you. Hang tight and to steal from Sar - Open Heart.

Joy that is just amazing news. I echo Cos (I think) who said I hope it is finally starting to feel real. Do you have a plan for the next few weeks? Oh I'm so very very happy for you. .

Cross post Joy. You've just made me tearful . I can understand the terror, and every sentiment you just posted. But take a tiny moment to enjoy this! No-one has given you scare stories to worry over, so don't go looking for them. That's my stern bit again! Oh I am so very happy for you. :).

Oh what scary but hopeful times on here. Hold tight, critter! I so want this to end well.

Hurrah and one step after another, joy! So glad the beans are doing well. I hope you'll feel more at ease soon, but for me a modicum of belief started only from 20weeks and a lot more when I felt lembie. So hang in there and have some reassurance scans. Tight hugs.

Waves at the others! X

morning all. Reading back it has been a tumultuous time for the ten plussers.

critter I am hoping with every bit of my heart that this works out for you. It is so incredibly hard and unfair on both of you. You have been such a support for us all. Hang in there and cuddle Doug and MrC xx

joy I am so relieved for you. Continue to take it one step at a time. I think we all believed it was impossible until the wee ones were here and healthy.

cos it is OK to be self centred sometimes. You need to take care of yourself. Xmas is a big build up and seldom delivers anyway. You can be a good daughter, sister, aunt all year even if you miss that event.

Whispers - Nelly were you going to test today??

No more time to post this morning as on rubbish phone app but thinking of fox and ray and everyone else on this rubbish journey.

Err. I may have mad. In fact I may have started with an OPK last night which went dark. So I followed up with a proper hobnob and found a stripe. This morning I repeated the HPT. The stripe remains. It may be darker, but then I think last night's one has faded. Though I took pics last night and again this morning and Mr N thinks today's is a stronger line.

Of course there is doubt as to whether it's still the pregnyl shot from 5 days ago (1500iu) so it's not a definite yes; but it's not a definite no either.

Aaaaahhh nelly !!!! I dont know how long pregnyl stays in your system. Is there an official time for it? But if it's getting darker then that is a great sign. Oh goodness, am excited for you!

I've read loads of differing opinions. One person said they tested negative 2 days after it (1500) and one person said a week! The 10000 trigger is apparently 7-10 days so simple maths would have it long gone. But another thing I read gives it a half life of 33-36 hours so that would still suggest a bit remains. Yet another thing said it differs from person to person which makes a mockery of a half-life. So basically I've no idea!!!

Sounds like IT should be out of your system nelly. But I guess you can only wait and see which is basically the standard line for all of this which isn't helpful. It's looking good though....

It is frustrating not knowing for sure, but I'm glad I tested. The line is strong enough to give me hope but I'm trying very hard to keep my sensible head on and remember this could be all drug related. I still don't know where I'm getting the blood test done though.

hi
Nelly, this is exciting news and I'm holding my breath for you.

critter, I have been having butterflies for you with all of these ups and downs, but I just feel that it's hanging on for dear life and I am wishing every bit of luck to you.

Joy, reading your post has made me blub in the office. I am grateful to hear how you are going. I've been told not to expect too much from this round of ivf and hearing you story is giving me the strength to see this one through, and the next, and the next! god, I'm crying so much! but not over sad things. last night it was I'm a celeb, and the day before was hollyoaks. plus I am always hungry. gonna get so fat on this ivf! I'll look the part even if I'm not preggers!
hello to everyone else, sorry for not a proper catch up x

fluffy I definitely put on IVF weight with all the bloating and comfort eating. But soon hopefully you'll be putting on a lot more weight

nelly I am cautiously whispering a little 'yippee' for you.

Waves to madness and lemon.

scurries in an offers nelly a chair and menu, how would you like your deer stalker cooked :)

critter it might be slightly and I mean slightly lower than the average but still within range for 5w4d. You have had such a shit year I am hoping that this bleed is just a scare

joy I do hope you will get to enjoy some part of being pregnant, I only enjoyed the last month do you have anymore scan planned

Nelly, things are looking positive! When do you get the blood test?

Joy, I had a tear in my eye reading your post in the office too. It really does give hope to others and its lovely. My lap is December 12th. I am a bit nervous. I am having excision of the endometriosis rather than lasering because my dcotor advises that where the endo is more severe but I think, as a result, the hospital stay etc is longer (I've been told up to 5 nights) and things like a catheter have been mentioned for the recovery period which is not something I am keen to experience! But hopefully, it will all be worth it.

Critter, my dog has a coat. It's just a lightweight waterproof one as when she gets really wet, she also starts to shiver dramamtically! She really does behave like a princess. I hope you're getting through the week ok. Are you working from home? I've been advised to consider IVF if not pregnant within 4-6 months of the lap which doesn't sound like a very long time.

Fluffy, I'm one of those people who eats when they're stressed so, if the hormones make you hungry as well, I will probably be the sixe of a house if I do IVF.

Nelly, do you want red or brown sauce with your hat? A line is a line is a line! When is the blood test?

Joy, I too had something in my eye reading your post. It certainly gives hope to all of us still trying. Do you have an official due date now? Was one twin still hiding behind the other? Do they each have their own placenta and sac?

Berry, I had a two night stay after my lap. I also had a catheter and a drain in because I bled quite a bit during the op. The catheter was ok because at least it meant I didn't have to leave my bed to go the loo. I didn't know I'd be having one and when I came round I had a real sensation of needing to pee, I asked the nurse if I could go to the toilet and she was like errr, why? You've got a catheter. I felt like a right numpty. Removing it was absolutely fine too. Removing the drain was a bit yucky but fine too. Do they know yet exactly where tHe endo is covering?

Name changed by the way, but think you'll know who I am! Last bit the same.