TTC for 10 months, and all the rest. 10 plussers welcome.

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Woohooo cos!

Waves to the others, lembie is having a no sleep day so I am posting from bed having fed him to sleep :) happiness

Hello all. back from the clinic.
well I don't hold the record but apparently pretty close with 19 eggs collected!
I don't want to scare anyone but it really was painful when I came round, but the wonderful man gave me drugs and after 15 mins they kicked in and I was soon on my way home. have now scoffed a big mac, fries and apple pie!
joy, fair play for being the ice queen regarding crying. I was ok until I was wheeled back in and I saw dh. I then blubbed so hard I don't think dh has ever seen me cry like that!. anyway like I said it didn't last long and I was soon normal drinking tea. We were offered the 'glue' for egg transfer and we didn't know that was an option so we've added that on.

Hope everyone is ok, cos hope you're taking it easy. and buzzy, hope you're not too sore. The gas will go, but I know what you mean about the pain of it. peppermint tea! that's all I can say xxx

Cos, that is simply fantastic news. Does that mean you're 5 weeks already? You do know that people are going to use you as an example and say that it will happen for everyone eventually. And probably throw in something about relaxing before ivf.

Fluffy, well done on getting through ec. 19 is great. I had 18 on my second round but they weren't all ripe. I was only sore for a couple of hours afterwards so hopefully you'll be ok. Watch out for ohss though. I have always had the glue. They do it as standard at my clinic.

Thanks ray. I'm glugging down the water. I had to pay extra 150 quid for it but as the rest is nhs we went for it

That's a great number, fluffy! The scoffing and the sobbing sounds like it was much needed. Thanks for the peppermint tea tip, I have been drinking it and it's vile isn't it?!

joy the next step is just to try naturally and see what happens now for a few months. They've advised us to think about IVF in a few months if we're not pregnant.

Berry I shall be cheering you on as we shall be in the same boat on Thursday :)

Fluffy well done that is a great number. Will they give you news if fertilisation tomorrow?

Berry gosh that op sounds full on, hope you are continuing to rest up well. Is it a bit if a relief to have got it out the way? Sounds like they did quite a bit if internal redecorating, really hope this solves it for you and your af pain is reduced.

Ray you make me laugh. Hmm, think I'm more used to being a cautionary tale. Think the digi means 2-3 wks since conception so 4-5 wks. And btw I'd forgotten quite how many eggs you got, that's loads. But if it can happen for me then why not anyone eventually if enough things are tried, something has to work! And I had defo written this month off as a dud and was thinking just about the Ivf, but seeing as I can think of ooh 30+ cycles where I felt similarly doubtful I'm not sure it was that. Today took about 3 years to get through. It's going to be a long few weeks.

Btw I was randomly thinking last night about how much collective ttc experience we have on this thread. Do you think it's close to 100 years?!

100 years cos. I think I have an equivalent of 100 years ttc in terms of bad luck and worry! I am so so glad to think of you being our ironidiff. We have waited a long time for one and what a lovely person for it to happen to.

I feel like a total crap ten plusser. For many reasons I am reading but never finding to time to post as I feel behind and that people will think me rude for not name checking. I just can't seem to keep up. I'm truthfully not doing very well with ttc at the moment and am finding even thinking about it quite painful. But I value all the support this thread has given me and don't want to fall off it completely.

Critter I continue to think of you and also your friend and hope that you are managing to slowly 'bed in' to this pregnancy. Can't wait to see a photo of your blanket!

Nelly how are you doing? I was thinking of you today driving to the clinic. I was thinking about how unbelievable it feels that I could ever become pregnant amd I know you had similar thoughts but here you are. It gives me hope that maybe de is the answer for me.

Berry I'm glad that you are through the op, three hours is a long one but hopefully with all of the unwanted bits gone a bfp won't be far away. I suffered a lot with gas after a lap all in my back and shoulders. I didn't find mint tea did much but my mum got me some foul mint cordial and that really shifted things. Rest up and all will be back to normal ever so soon.

Fluffy that is an amazing haul! This is all sounding very promising.

Joy when is the twenty week scan? You are getting nearer and nearer to your babies. It makes me sad that pregnancies for us long long time triers is inevitably so very nerve wracking. Nelly had it with the cynicism and terror. But I hope soon you can get some enjoying of it all.

Sam, stick with the temping, it is early days and a pattern will emerge. Try holding the thermometer in your mouth for a minute before you press it on. I find open mouths/cold rooms can effect things and if you take your temp three times in a minute there is variability. I now pretty much know if I'm pre ov or post of by the temps but I have taken my temps for far longer than any woman should ever have to!

Ray I hope that somehow all the dates align for you this cycle.

My news is my next cycle will be after my immunes come back and I've had an immunes review which will be mid January. I am just going to go with this NHS cycle and then go back to drawing board if this doesn't work, this will be the final round I do with this clinic. My faith in them is rather low.

Fluffy, 19 is amazing! I got 15 and the clinic said it's about the highest they are comfortable w re: ohss, so drink and look after yourself! if you get diffed the risk is higher so do get in touch if you feel bad after the et

I missed your three hour lap, poor berry! It should make a difference tho. I hope you feel better soon. Mint tea didn't do anything for me, gentle yoga did shift the gas first time. W my last lap I had some complication and I can say now morfine works wonders too...

Fox, tight squeeze! That's all I have to say. Sorry ttc he'll is dragging you down. You'll always be part of the gang, esp when you too get to draw a line under it all.

Hell, not he'll...

Excited thoughts for all our differs, esp cos you can't believe it yourself. And hurrah for our ironidiff. We were do overdue one :)

Fox - you are not a crap 10 plusser! You can't be posting on here all the time; sometimes life just gets in the way or you need to take a step back, totally understandable

I got my first peak result on opk yesterday (only 1 day later than last month) and temps seem far more stable providing I discard the one following a shrunken night out! So it seems I'm very consistent in terms of timings. Still no word from the clinic, yesterday was 7 weeks since they got the referral so based on what they told dh we should hear from them in the next 6 days... Watch this space!

Waves to everyone Xx

Haha - drunken not shrunken!

Fox, you could never be a bad ten plusser. This thread is here when you need it. I sometimes feel that I'm in a very different place to everyone else, several years in, failed ivfs behind me and I've never see a bfp in all that time. When people have got through to the other side it's easier to forget the heartache they suffered and to remember they understand. That's what I love about this thread, because the graduates are still here and provide so much support. I honestly mean it when I say this thread is the best therapy.

Fox, will the next round be de?

Cos, you need to share you tips on what was different this month :) I produced lots of eggs on lp and they were very worried about ohss with me but thankfully I was fine. The problem was that my eggs don't seem to grow consistently so some were over ripe and some not big enough. Out of 18 only 11 could be used. We had good fertilisation with icsi but they amounted to nothing so that whys they think the drugs might have affected egg quality, I produced too many. This means it will be interesting to see what happens with natural round.

Pikz, are you having a lap too? Is it for diagnostic reasons or are you having something treated? I'm sorry, I think I missed you joining the thread so I'm a bit behind.

Cos it's definitely a relief that it's done. I think my period has arrived today as I am bleeding quite heavily. I have never had to think about whether or not bleeding could be my period before as it's always accompanied by excrutiating pain so if this is my period, I would be very pleased! It must be close to 100 years TTC. That's a sobering thought but it's good that we can all benefit from things that others on the thread have learned.

Fox you're not a crap ten plusser. Life gets in the way sometimes. Just post as and when you feel like it.

Berry having a lap and hysteroscopy for diagnostics and adhesion/ends removal. I had the same before DS and got pregnant so crossing everything for the same result

Hello.

Really quick update -sorry I can't do more but I am all over the place at the moment.
Out of my 19 eggs, 17were mature and 16 have fertilised. Waiting for a call not on Friday to decide if et is Friday or Sunday.
Still quite painful so under strict orders from dh I have requested the rest of the week off to relax etc. drinking gallons to keep the ohss at bay. Did anyone else find peeing painful - not like cystitis but just achy when the bladder is emptying? Sorry for tmi.

Catch up properly later and thanks everyone for your support so far x

Just popping in quickly to say cos :) :) :) Such fab news and you so deserve an ironadiff. Digis need lots of hcg, so that's great that you've got a positive 2-3 weeks already. I'm so bloody chuffed for you! Are you feeling ok? Any symptoms? Oh cos, I'm so excited for you!

fluffy great news re the 16 embies. Yes peeing can hurt but difficultly peeing can be a sign of ohss, so do be vigilant. Lots of protein plus fluids to keep the ohss at bay.

Snotty loves and waves to everyone else. Everyone is under the weather in the gin household.

Fox as Ray said that's one of the things I like about this thread, it's there if you need it and everyone understands if others need to take breaks. I hope you're ok. You certainly have had loads of couldn't-make-it-up bad luck, is that in fox years then? However, I feel sure this has to end and your luck must be ready to turn. Your plan sounds like a good one. It will be very interesting to see what your immune results are.

Ray I'd forgotten the detail of your cycle. Gosh so there's every chance that without the drugs overstimming your ovaries you will produce completely different embryos. That sounds like a significant change to make. And look at Joy, a different protocol can make the world of difference. Is your appt this Friday?

Fluffy that's a great fertilisation rate. I don't know much about ohss to be honest - that was never a worry for me.

Berry I hope this is the start of a whole new world of pain free periods, it sounds promising. Was your DH's results all ok?

Waves to Gin, nice to see you hope you're all starting to feel better soon. I have been having lots of cramps. Some that feel stretchy and good, some sharp stabbing pains, and others that feel like af pains. Twice today I felt some liquid pass out of my foof and had that heart stopping moment of thinking that's it, I'm losing it, and having to steal myself to go to the loo - though just cm so far. I feel very spaced out but think that's more the complete headfy and not being able to take it in. At this moment an ectopic seems more likely.

And thanks Lemon. And Doll. And Buzzy and everyone else.

Wow, fluff! Sixteen embies is fab. We had ten out of 15egglets, and I was pretty chuffed with that. Out of them 7 good embies, 1cp, 1 wonderful little boy and 5 frosties remaining.

Hurrah for the end of unbearable af, berry! It sounds like the lap did wonders. Now go get your golden egg one of these months.

I agree that fox luck needs to turn. But I am still somewhat depressed that luck doesn't seem to take turns and some of us on here have had ridiculous times :( but it will change! As wise critter says the only way is through...

Thread breaks are good, and group therapy is always here, the core is sound and will stay here if and when needed!

I know I will forget loads but here goes

Cos that digi result is brilliant. I never even forked out dared try one for fear it would ridicule me. In my admittedly limited, but at least recent experience, there is no real discernible difference between AF pains and pregnancy pains. At about your stage I was sure AF was coming as it was the familiar dull ache. More recently I'd have said they are different but plenty of people report period style pain throughout. Cramps are definitely the worst indicator. I am sooo hoping for good news with this little bean, you bloody deserve it!

Hope Lembie feels better Lemons. Feeding him to sleep sounds terrifying lovely.

Ray I'm another who had forgotten about your mega-egg haul. I agree with the others, natural is a significantly different approach and should provide interesting comparisons, but mainly I hope it provides a BFP.

Fluffy wowsers to the eggs and embies. No wonder you are sore, I can confirm it doesn't hurt at all with only 3 follies. Fingers crossed for good blasts.

Berry how is the recovery going? Has the gas dispersed? I actually like peppermint tea, the pukka ones are nice if rather expensive. They definitely shift gas for me.

Berry that would be wonderful if AF pains went away. I never suffered at all, which is why I was fooled into thinking I had reproductive organs that worked . I confess that in early adulthood I thought that people rather over-exaggerated what they were experiencing, as an excuse to get time off work/PE/lectures. Now I know rather differently from having met real life sufferers and I realise I was rather naive and a bit of a cow . Apologies to all I rolled my eyes at in a past life!

Gin I hope the Ginster, and you all, recover soon. I went for my flu jab last week. Having waited half an hour beyond appointment time (how can they be running so late by 9.30??) the first question they asked was "any colds?" Me:err yes I'm getting over one. Still got a bit of a residual cough. I was sent home again, sans vaccination. Grrrrr. Still a bit chesty now and that's been 4 weeks, the joys of a suppressed immune system I guess. Worth it all, though :)

Fox, you big orange fluffy lump you. Do not apologise, if you need a break, bloody have it. It does nobody any good to think about TTC all the time, I know I need distractions a lot. But know also we are always here for you, here or via other escalation routes. I am stroking your paw. I'm always here for a DE chat too. That aspect hasn't even entered my mind, mainly as I'm too scared to connect with Minelly quite yet.

Pikz hope the lap goes well and does what you hope afterwards too.

Right going to post this then come back if I forgot anything.

Fox - I understand it must be so tough for you. I do see a brighter future for you though I really do. You are just in this awful position of limbo right now but although very difficult to see for oneself , fortunes can and do change. I see things changing for you.

Cos - were you on progesteron this month or did this happen completely by itself? The gestone will keep things going but bad experience memories sadly don't go away. I just had to rush into a pub an hour ago as I thought something was going on but it was just cm. But still I go to the loo every time with some trepidation. Why do you think ectopic? There is no reason to think that is there? goodness I am so desperate for this to be the one and it must be.

Mrsd - I really hope that the number of eggs and your amh gives you hope for the future. What I have learnt is that it is all down to these clinics their drugs, protocols, the cultures they use. And eggs not growing consistently will be down to the management of your protocol. But natural will be really interesting and I have no doubt at all luck will change. It's definitely a numbers game with you two.

Fluffy - 16 wowsers. Yes to the bladder issue as well. I got 15 in my 2nd round and 13 in my first and I had the problem. Your ovaries expand and press on the bladder I believe. Keep drinking water and good kuck with more excellent dividing.

Nelly- I had my flu jab tonight. I just nipped into boots. I told them I had a sore throat brewing and they plunged it in anyway. I hope it doesn't do anything ghastly. I have been specifically told it is a dead virus and so it can't give you the flu. was told to leave it a month after stopping steroids but I haven't. Another doc told me I could have the jab whilst I was on steroids. All very confusing.

Gin- sorry about the sick house. Roy is ill but still working, I think I am brewing something too. Everyone is coughing and spluttering as far as I can work out. Hope you all get better soon.

Had a 16wk appt today at hospital. It was a chat about the problems of expecting twins and all potential complications. Lovely. I guess they have to warn people.

fox a tight hug to you. This is the year when your luck is going to change. I am sorry you're struggling, I wish it wasn't all so bloody hard.

joy you will be in really good hands with your twins. Yes there are more complications, but they will be keeping such a close eye on you and that is comforting.

cos like the others I really want this to be it. You know, that doc did tell you to try for six months with new wobble - it could be that you're like anyone who is just starting out TTC - it's, what, seven months since he said that? If this were ectopic surely it'd be more painful? I am still having cramps now at 10 weeks but the creature has hung on in there so far - but I know the fear and also the need to constantly knicker check.

berry sorry about the gas pains. After my c section that was the worst, and I couldn't fart because there were people in the room all the time. I had to fart in front of DH which was not fun. Ugh it sucked, wish I'd known about the peppermint tea. Hope you're feeling a bit better.

fluff that is amazing news about all those eggs and the great fertilisation rate. Hopefully you'll have some blasts for the freezer! Take it easy, I found the days post EC the worst in terms of physical discomfort, bloating, basically feeling like you needed to do a massive fart but couldn't. Miserable.

ray I agree that the fact you got lots of eggs bodes well and maybe it's just a protocol tweak. You make good eggs and your DH does have sperm and you are getting decent fertilisation rates. Look at joy, it was a numbers game for her and I think the same for you. I wish you didn't have to go through yet another Christmas without a little one though. It's bloody unfair.

nelly when's your next scan? How are you feeling?

sam I did chuckle at your 'shrunken' night out. Hoping that your referral comes through quickly. Chase chase chase if it doesn't. Don't let them 'forget' about you!

Love to everyone else I've missed. Saw my lovely OB for the first time today since my 4 week post partum visit in Feb. No scan now I've 'graduated' but hoping all is ok and it's still in there and growing. He said to drink lots of water because apparently that's v important during first trimester, and get plenty of calcium too. I also told him about my friend who lost her second baby too and he looked totally horrified. My 12 week scan is on New Year's eve, and I'm also supposed to have genetic counselling as am now over 35. My RE wants me to stay on progesterone (shots and pessaries) and oestrogen until 12 weeks which I'm quite relieved about.

Critter that's great you got to see your lovely OB. I hope he was a reassuring influence. Good news about staying on the meds.

Nelly thanks that's reassuring. How are you doing, are you feeling any more relaxed / confident about it?

Joy I wasn't taking anything no. Slightly miraculous. I wonder whether it's some kind of cumulative endocrinological effect of post septum. Gah at your appt, did they do it intelligently with some kind of mangement plan, or scare the life out of you? Have you been chatting yet to anyone who has twins? I hope you're feeling positive about things.