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Oh Toes that sounds awful, no wonder you were so upset. I think Fluffy makes a good point though as it would be so much worse if you were going through that stressing about embies. I think they might need to consider sedation for transfer. You shouldn't have to suffer that way. Poor you

Fluffy is your treatment private or NHS? I do think they left you a long time on a high dose with no monitoring. Fingers crossed they don't cancel. You need to trigger 36 hours before EC, so it won't be Tuesday if they are seeing you again on Monday. I wouldn't be surprised if they trigger sooner though. How big were the follies?good luck getting the water down

Thanks Mad and everyone for well wishes. Nothing sinking in here but trying to stay off Google for a bit and get back to normal. I was getting rather obsessed

Oh toes that does sound grim. Poor you. A good cry was called for. Now that they know what they're doing hopefully your embryo transfer will be smooth. Lots of tea, chocolate and cuddles tonight xx

fluffy at 17 follies. I was never anywhere close to ohss but it does sound worrying that you were allowed to go for so long on such a high dose. How did they determine what you should be on? Good luck with the water.

Nelly I found head in the sand avoiding Google the best approach, although I did give in and search occasionally. It didn't usually help though!

fluffy I had 18 follies and they got 14 eggs at EC. Sounds like you're in a similar boat. They had me 'coast' off the drugs for a few days before EC, they may do the same with you. If it looks like you will have OHSS they may do a frozen cycle to allow your ovaries time to settle down before the transfer - they didn't with me, and I was 'impressively overstimulated' according to my doc, but even though it is uncomfortable, this bodes well for your cycle. Ladies who've been at risk of OHSS on this board have tended to have success… me and sea spring to mind.

toes so sorry about the miserable mock transfer, that sounds painful. Will they have the head consultant doing your transfer then? Definitely take all the pain relief you can. So sorry about the tears, it all just gets too much to bear sometimes.

oh and berry good luck today! Thinking of you.

Oh toes - virtual hugs to you, that's sounds awful. Fingers crossed the detailed notes mean the real thing won't be nearly so bad.

We got a Christmas card in the post yesterday that had 'contains good news' hand written on the back of the envelope.... I avoided opening it for 5 hours because I didn't want to read another pregnancy announcement. When I did finally open it it contained a leaflet telling the story of Mary and Joseph! Lol, felt a bit silly after that! Xx

Toes, that does sound horrible. I agree that it's a good job they did a mock one first. I never had a mock one but the doctor had examined me many, many times so I think he knew the route. I think those leaflets would set me off too. My clinic rather insensitively has the photos from a local photography studio of bump photos and newborns. I really must write about how insensitive that is on my feedback form.

Sam, I have been doing the same thing with cards. I got he yesterday and left it for dh to open because I was so sure it was going to contain pregnancy news. It didn't.

I'm on cd 1. I had a nigHtmare trying to get the clinic to give me an appointment because they say ec or et could fall on a day they're closed.,dh has managed to argue with them and get me in to see the dr on Friday. This will only be day 8 so it will be pretty pointless but I want to plead my case with the doctor rather than with the receptionist.

I'm feeling very weepy today, hormones I think. I really want to curl up away from everything just now.

Hi all. Lots to catch up on! So, so pleased your scan went well Nelly, I hope you are managing to maintain some calm now that you've had some reassurance.

Critter, what a sad story about your friend. I hope you are finding ways not to dwell on this and that you can stop your mind from comparing your situation to hers. Easier said than done I'm sure.

Fluffy, wow to the mega follies! Hope you aren't too uncomfortable and that things calm down enough for you to get to EC as planned. I'm hoping to learn from you any pearls of wisdom for my first cycle!

Toes, bless you, what a horrific experience. Hope your cuddle has arrived. And agree with the above, better that this has happened now than on the real day itself. I know it's not the same thing, but I had retained tissue stuck in my cervix when I miscarried last year, which they proceeded to scrape out without any pain relief whatsoever..I felt like I was dying on the table. If it's anything like that, I feel your pain.

Sammy, LOL at avoiding the Christmas card...I have had many smug emails and cards with smiling kiddie pictures already ("look at us fertiles!!!") which I could do without, especially at this time of year.

MissJaneo I had to wait 6 months for my first appointment, I think it's pretty standard depending on where you live. I wouldn't expect too much, depending on what tests you've had done. I had more blood tests to test AMH levels etc and the lovely dildocam experience to check my ovaries were there/working. We had day 3/21 bloods and semen analysis done in advance of first appointment. Had a patronising chat about how babies are made and they sent us away to try for another 6 months.

Thanks for all the congrats on impending IVF. Nelly and Joy, to answer your question it is indeed NHS and I'm lucky up here in the 'grim' North as I get 3 cycles (and then any FET are bonus 'freebies').

I'm off to work christmas party tonight.... What's an acceptable amount of time to stay/show face?!

And big hugs to you Ray - think our posts crossed. I've been through a low point recently and I know how hard it is to shake out of, especially when you feel nothing is going your way

Quick update, had a call from the clinic, they want to do ec on Tues. keeping the meds the same, trigger on Sunday then off we go for 11.30! !! just keep on chugging the water (blergh)

fluffy you'll have a rugby team and subs at this rate, yes drink the water, it is kind of exciting that you are so close now, seems like yesterday to me you were sniffing away like some youf with a spray can

toes that sounds nasty but best they realise now then at actual EC/ET. I have to admit it never crossed my mind to see about a mock with my cycle, I just blindly went in

sam I did at your post, interesting way to get the story of Christmas out there

ray I do hope you get things sorted for this cycle, you've been waiting so long to get on with it

st4r an hour is all you need, its too blardy cold to be out, I'm already in my jimjams have been since 5.30

berry hope all went well today

Thanks for all the support everyone, you really are the loveliest bunch.

After I posted today, I filled out a few forms the a doctor came and chatted to me about my amh levels (22.2 good for my age) and the she asked if I wanted to do long or short protocol as I was borderline? I stared blankly at her and just said "whatever you think is best, in your professional opinion. As a doctor." She said ok and left again, and then a nurse issued me with a bag of drugs and syringes. I am on buserelin for 2 weeks before I go back, they scan me and the I'll start stimms. So I guess that's long protocol?? Not sure. Start on January 2nd, luckily that's a Bank Holiday here in Scotland (we have government mandated 2 day hangovers at New Years) so I can get used to the injections without work getting in the way. I'm back in again on the 15th January.

I'll do a proper catch up tomorrow but just wanted to update and also thank you all for being so wonderful!

Wow Toes, that sounds great! What you've described there is what I was told was 'long protocol'. At my clinic they don't do short protocol, not sure what the difference is though, think there's a drug stage that's missed out - maybe the sniffy bit? I was told long protocol is more common. Happy for you that you don't have long to wait before getting started.

Fluffy congrats for having day confirmed for EC!

Christmas do was painful...sat between my boss and a guy blanked by his own department (I took pity on him) Left at earliest opportunity (when dinner finished and the bad disco started!)

Hi all. I only have a few minutes but wanted to mention to toes a related experience I had at transfer. I had no mock, my own Dr wasn't around for the first transfer and I had someone I'd never meet. The transfer was straightforward but I didn't get pregnant. Before my second transfer I read about having a full bladder on MN and tanked up with water before I went in. The transfer was very complicated and my (own) Dr said the 'route' was really tricky. I had to get off the table either two or three times to pee and he was visibly stressed/annoyed. I remember him saying a full bladder can make things more tricky under some circumstances. I got pregnant from that round by the way. Hope you feel better.

Morning everyone

Had Xmas party last night so took full advantage if not being pg and suffering for it this morning! There will be people FAR worse off than me though, that's for sure.

I'm after some temping advice again please - I've been very good this cycle and taken all my temps at the same time however they still seem to fluctuate quite a lot... Should I be worried by this? FF is saying it's something to mention to drs? I know today's would be affected by last nights drinking so I will discard that, but even so the charts quite rocky? Thank you in advance! Xx

Sam, hope the hangover has faded. No idea on the temps I'm afraid. How are you taking it, errr which orifice?

Toes yes Long Protocol. Kind of surprised you got asked actually as I thought they only did LP there. That's the one that includes down regulation. I found it pretty easy but others find it tough going.

Oh Doll your stories still have the power to amaze me

Fluffy, good news for EC. Hope you are feeling ok. Last stim today then I presume. Hopefully it will all be worth it.

Star, wow to 3 rounds. Our trust give 2 but the wait list was too long for us.

Hope you are feeling a bit better Ray, post hormone crash. Big hugs. That's pretty rubbish about the photo information in your clinic. Mine is just usually full of fertility magazines (where I read about a couple that spent £100k on treatment), and donor conception information, which I never actually read. Whoops.

Today, I went to mothercare. Not for me (that would have been very precious instadiffer of me), but to get a gift, and it was a very surreal experience. Looking at these things thinking there is a chance I might need them one day. Then went to see the newborn with said gift and again it was just so weird. First time we've seen a baby since confirmed pregnancy (Mini-mad being the last one I saw). It didn't feel any less obscure than before. Yet I was looking at her thinking his might be us soon. There was just no connection between her, and my scan. I know it's still so early days though that I know it's self protection.

Loves to everyone else. Didn't read back a page before posting so apologies to everyone I meant to talk to.

sam how wildly do they fluctuate ???

toes we in the Southern Hemisphere require a 2 day recover from New Year holiday too, I find the English are a bit tight with their public holidays, but roll on the New Year for you :)

Buzzy - 35.88 to 36.22 (but that was following a few drinks last night) - the next highest after that was 36.08.

Nelly - just orally at the moment... I'm not sure I can face anything else at 5am when dhs alarm goes off! X

I hope you don't mind me posting. I found your thread back in the summer after we'd been TTC for 18 months. I lurked for a couple of weeks and was just about to be brave and take the plunge and ask to join you lovely ladies when I got a BFP. I've checked back from time and time and I'm so pleased that some of the names I remember have had good news since then. Thinking of you all I know just how scary the early part of preg is.

Anyway the reason I'm posting is I saw Sams post about temps and it struck a chord. I temped for about 6 months and used to be alarmed by the variation in temps. I just looked back and they varied between 35.8 and 36.2 pre ovulation. After ovulation they jumped above a cover line (for me about 36.3) and remained above that cover line (but again varying, not as much as pre ovulation though) until crashing back down pre AF. The month I conceived was just as variable (if not more so!) than the others. I can PM you one of my charts if that would help (if I can figure out how to do it!). I have PCOS and was on metformin when I conceived. Not sure if that affects temps.

I hope you don't mind me posting. But I remember getting stressed by temping and I think it's the overall pattern that matters. Not day to day variations. As for everyone else I really am hoping that you all get your babies in 2015. You all sound like such lovely people.

nelly it will take time to feel like it is happening to you :)

sam If I didn't like the temp reading then I would do it again, its amazing how much it could change in a short space of time, I would go with it a bit longer and see how it pans out, I used the back door for mine

Penguin thank you, it's good to hear the spikey temperature charts didn't stop you from conceiving. My temps sound similar to yours, 36.3 was my cover line last month. I wasn't worried until FF said it was something I should mention to the doctor!
Thank you for the offer to look at your charts, it would be interesting to see them if you can work out how.
One of the other members on here sent me hers a few weeks ago, but would like to see how others compare.

Buzzy - I have heard it's more accurate to temp from there... But I'm not sure I can do that without waking myself up properly so am going to stick to orally for now!

Sorry for me me me post. So I'm today 2 days late (15 dpo) and haven't had any spotting or bleeding at all since 4dpo which is most unlike me. I'm awaiting for af so I can start the pill for Ivf. I peed on a cheapie hobnob and there was a faint line. Given the Ivf drugs arrived on sat and are in my fridge that would count as an ironidiff wouldn't it. It can't be. I'll have to do another tomorrow. Probably just something else to mess with my head and muck the Ivf dates up.

Ooh Cos, eek!
I won't say too much but keeping my fingers firmly crossed for you ??
Maybe the threat of the drugs was enough to scare your body in to doing what you want it too...? X

Wow, cos. You do always hear about these ironiduff so why shouldn't it happen to you? This is very exciting and I'm quietly cheering you on. Something is happening if have a line and are late with no bleeding.

Sam, it's normal for temps to go up and down. I think it's only if there isn't a clear difference between before and after ovulation. Did you have a day 21 test? If that was ok then I wouldn't worry.

Christmas is so hard, It's such an in your face reminder of what we don't have. Fb was one long thread of children and Xmas stuff over the weekend
I'm so glad that we've chosen to sit this one out. We have a clinic appointment on Friday but it will be too early to scan me and I expect to be told to go away and come back in January. I'm very frustrated. We have started planning our summer holidays now, so that's something to look forward to.

Thanks Ray, yes, 21 day bloods were fine. I'm sure it's ok, was just surprised when FF seemed to be concerned! X