Hoping for a positive November!

[BBWBabeLisa]

AF arrived this morning, CD34. Probably won't be a +ive november for me either as DH is going away for 2 months sometime later this month, so he probably won't be here for my fertile window, but ya never know (in the army the dates for things change all the time, so gotta keep hoping). Will keep using my Persona this month just in case we can fit one or two BDs in at the right time.

mrsmcjnr - sorry ididnt update the thread so didnt reaslise you had posted. really sorry to hear that you are down today sometimes things just build up dont they and you feel you are carrying the weight of the world on your shoulders. you sound like you are certainly going through a rough patch at the moment ((((hugs)))) you will get your bfp soon enough just try and keep smiling. you are such a great person and offer so much support and pick-me ups to everyone on here so i hope that we can cheer you up now in return xxx

yes they have been niggling all day but eased off a bit now...

I think that the CM does any number of things before AF/BFP, so that can't be used as an indicator. You have had pains for ages now, haven't you?

yes for about 3/4 days they are like stitches on either side but yesterday had aching like period type cramps then this morning went back to original pains but not so bad now. its just so confusing because each month is so different no two months are the same for me so dont have a clue what the hell to look out for.

Oh MrsMc I really do feel for you. Sometimes it can all just feel too much can't it.

One of the problems regarding ttc could be reading too much. I dont know about you, but I know if I read things with symptoms, I think of all the ways in which I could have that problem. This is exactly what I've done with anovulatory cycles. My OV tests said I didn't OV last month between CD10 and CD17 and, having read about lack of ovulation, I'm convinced it'll take me ages to conceive as I mustn't be ovulating at all!

I only say this because I know you are reading the book about herbal remedies and maybe that is making you think too much about all the things that can prevent conception.

I can really empathise with the work thing. I've been in the position before when I've been totally unmotivated - in the end I was made redundant (not saying at all that will happen to you!) - but it was actually a relief. I was 5 months pregnant at the time and, due to timing was not entitled to the company's maternity payments. But even if you are not employed you still get statutory maternity pay from the government if you have been a taxpayer, so dont worry about not being entitled to SMP.

Sorry I'm not being much help, but maybe you should look for another job - at least that will give you something to focus on and you'll feel like you are doing something positive.

Bodkin is right - it will all work out in the end - its just tricky keeping upbeat while it all happens.

Don't forget I am only round the corner from you (well, a couple of corners) so give me a call anytime for coffee and a chat!! I'm always up for sneaking away from work

Desperate - JL2 had tonnes of CM just before her BFP and nothing that we read seemed to suggest that it was a good sign but it actually was try not to worry.

Bodkin & Rubles, thank you so much for your support. Feel a bit silly for having such a big outburst on here but it does feel better now I've said it. Thank you also for your positive suggestions and the nice things you said about me. Feeling very wanted!

You're right about TTC taking over your life! With most things in life, you can try your hardest and then be happy with the result knowing it was your best effort but this feels so different. It might teach me to stop being such a control freak. If we had crystal balls that told us when it would happen, it would be a whole different ball game!

Sorry that you have financial worries too Rubles. . I worry about DH worrying about them if that makes sense! I will seriously consider your advice on a job change. You have a good memory! I do work in Edinburgh but live outside. There isn't really a big market for renting the house out nor for taking a lodger but we knew this was not the best time of year to try for a sale, we just thought we'd chance it. The viewer we had loved the house but it was outwith his budget (by loads). I am also going to take your advice on trying to take TTC out of the equation. It creates too much uncertainty.

I'm ok, just feeling a bit low, I'll cuddle up with DH on the couch tonight and that'll make it all feel better (we have been apart the last two evenings doing different things and I have spent too much time on my own)

Thanks Desperate & RachelRose - . RachelRose - it's great knowing you are nearby to catch up with

MrsMcJnr - ((((hugs)))). I felt so sad reading your post (which is probably a little mental since I don't even know you but I am that kind of gal!)

I have only just started TTC baby#1 and I was feeling sorry for myself on Sunday when AF arrived - and I know I shouldn't cos there are so many women who struggle for years. But no matter what - it's natural to worry that things are not working etc, but you have to try and relax and just think that it'll happen when it's meant to.

As for losing weight, it doesn't sound like you have to - you don't need to add to your worries, so as long as your BMI is less than 25 then you are doing well. Just try to eat well and exercise a few times a week (BDing is perfect for that!) which I am sure you are doing.

Selling a house is a stressful thing to do. The autumn is usually slower for buying and selling so there won't be a rush of people, like in the summer months, but it only takes one person to fall in love with it. Make sure your estate agents are doing their jobs. Let them stress about the amount of viewings!!That's what you are paying them a % for after all!!

I have found MN to be a great place to get information and it's wonderful hearing other people's stories and when the BFPs come it's really exciting and makes me realise that lots of women do fall pregnant... sometimes it just takes time.

Sorry if I overstepped the mark by commenting. Hope not, just wanted to let you know that it'll be reet!! Take care of you.

babydust x

sorry to hear ur housing problem mrsmcjnr we got kinda same idea we r renting thou we moved into a nice big house but if im not pg by this time next yr we will be skint n av to move out but wont be able to afford it lol
baby dust n hugs to all

MrsMcJur so sorry your feeling down, chin up chick!

I hope you don't mind me joining this thread.

I have been reading some of the posts for a few weeks as I had a miscarriage in August and the info on here has really helped me.

Just read your post mrsmcjnr and I feel pretty down today as well. This is first cycle ttc after miscarriage in August - i'm on day 29 and period seems to be coming. I feel horrible as I really wanted it to happen this month! I have been feeling sick and have had a cold - a sure sign I thought that I could be preg!!

So I thought I would join the +ve for November thread - its helps to know other people are going through the same.

Sorry to hear that some of you are feeling down at the moment. MrsMcJnr - you normally do seem so positive, so hope that snuggling with DH tonight helps.

This whole ttc business is enough to drive any sane woman to distraction. This is now month 13 or 14 for us. I only joined MN a few weeks ago, having read about it in my Gran's paper. I was reluctant to look for anything like this earlier because I felt that joining something called "MumsNet" might jinx us (I'm a hard-headed scientist by training, but still superstitious about some things, just in case).

Anyway, the point is, that I am really pleased to have found this place, where there are loads of other women going through the same thing - symptom spotting, trying to fit BD into hectic lives, trying to find ways to take our minds off ttc. Plus getting loads of good advice (and terrifying stories that should put us off). So, when any of you are down, I really feel for you and hope that you get some good luck to cheer you up very soon.

Ramble, ramble, ramble... sorry for getting gushy

Hi Amester and welcome to the Nov thread. Very sorry to hear about your miscarriage in August - its still very new for you so hope you are coping ok. There's plenty of support on here, and on the miscarriage section if you need it.

We'll be keeping our fingers crossed that your AF doesn't show up, but if it does then there's lots of us around to help you through the next month.

Amester, if it is your AF you have my sympathy. I think that periods after a miscarriage hit you much harder because it brings it home to you that you are not pregnant when you should be. That was how I experienced it, anyway.
As I said before though, I hope it isn't AF for you.

Morning all.

Sorry to hear about your m/c Amester, but glad you have found MN - I am a relative newcomer too but have found it to be a great source of comfort and distraction! Like Minshu said, we are all in the same boat and we would be hard pushed to find people in RL that we would be happy to discuss the intimate workings of our bodies with like we can on here!

Hope you're feeling more chipper today MrsMcJnr. I think Rubles and RachelRose are right about maybe looking for another job. At least that would be something you can really focus on. Is there any way you could be freelance doing what you do? I had only been freelance for a few months before I fell pregnant with DD, but as long as you are paying your NI contributions (about £2 a week) you are entitled to 6 months Maternity Allowance (was a £100 a week - might have gone up now) Just another suggestion for the pot anyway.

D2BMum - hope AF stays away for you.

Have a good weekend everybody

Morning all, feeling a lot more positive this morning and I think a lot of that is down to your support, thank you so much. Thank you Babymad, ChickenPiesCheeky, Minshu - I really appreciate all that you have said. Bodkin - thank you for the freelance suggestion.

Ready4Motherhood - sorry I made you sad . It does not matter how long anyone else has been trying, it is such a disappointment when AF arrives and I think we are all entitled to feel sad about it no matter what cycle of trying we are on. After all, every cycle is a new chance! Thanks for all your advice and empathy and for saying such nice things to me . I know what you mean about the BFPs, it's great, it reminds us that it does happen!

I planned out all my & DH's meals for the next week last night so I know we will be eating healthy food and we might even lose some weight!

Amestar - I feel bad for complaining about my lot when people like you have been through such sad times . Sending you lots of hugs and it's lovely to have you with us.

How are you all doing? I have lost track of who's OV, testing, waiting?

I'm CD15 still getting negative opks but expect to OV on Monday. DH and I have got a nice quiet weekend together so hopefully we'll get plenty of BD in!

MrsMcJnr - Don't apologise!!! (hug) I am so pleased you are feeling more chipper today. Yay!

I am CD6, AF left yesterday and I have a weekend with a 1 year old to look forward to, and her parents too. Should be a riot!!
So you're CD15, BD mode then Enjoy!! And what will be will be!!!

Good luck everyone this month! Have a great weekend!

babydust x

Hi everyone, sorry I haven't been online for a while, but have vaguely managed to catch up with this thread.

CD16 here, very little chance of a bfp as dh isn't back until this afternoon, so I'll have to be quick.

I was trying to work out when I ov, I always thought it was CD10 but I did a test on CD11 (I think) and it was -ve. The cm started around CD10 and continued for a few days, so it's possible I may have been wrong about my ov date all along - how annoying would that be .

Quick question - when do you all start having cm compared to when you ov?

MrsMc - sorry to hear you have been feeling down, you certainly have a lot on your plate. I agree with the others about maybe finding another job if possible. You are lucky having RachelRose nearby to catch up with

Hope everyone has a good weekend

Hi All,

Just a quickie. Hope you're all staying positive for a positve as it were.

Desperate - Before my BFP lots of CM + lots of stitch like pains - which are supposed to be uterus / muscles stretching, so fingers crossed it'll be a BFP for you this months

MrsMJ - Glad you're feeling more up beat today. It can really get to you sometimes. I think you've got an awful lot on your plate and need to deal with one thing at a time. A new job seems like a good plan.

Hi Everyone,

Thanks for all your messages of support - it really made me feel better. Sounds like everyone feels a bit more positive which is great.

Sideways - My fertile cm normally starts about 5 days before ov test shows up.

Im really confused - no af as such yet (Just some light brown discharge). Did a test yesterday and I think I could see the faintest line. But decided I was just imaining it - now this morning line is darker - I have just been reading about evaporation lines so think it must be one of those. Will have to just wait and see if af arrives so will be going to loo every 5 mins!!!

Hope everyone has a good weekend and thanks again!

Amester, I know you are trying to manage your expectations, but I think you are pregnant lovey.

Oh, sideways, my CM starts about 5/6 days before ovulation

Morning ladies,

CM seems different each month for me, but the EWCM seems to appear any time from CD13 to 17. The frustrating thing is that it differs toward the end of the cycle each time, so I am always fooling myself into thinking that because it is different, then I must be pg... Anyway, grapefruit juice seems to be making a bit of difference this month, but, it could just be one of those things.

This is my first month of temping, so hoping that will be a useful guide, too. Temp still down this morning.

MrsMcJnr - how are you today? We're cycle buddies, so my weekend plans are similar to yours

And Amester - keeping fingers crossed for you.

Hi - I noticed a few of you said you had bad skin after coming off the pill. I was off and on Dianette for last few years and then taken off it this year as Doc said it was too strong and started on Yasmin. Skin was fine for the first few months stopping but then in the 3rd/4th month skin gets bad during ovulation and just before period. Any over the counter remedies?