Hoping for a positive November!

[BBWBabeLisa]

AF arrived this morning, CD34. Probably won't be a +ive november for me either as DH is going away for 2 months sometime later this month, so he probably won't be here for my fertile window, but ya never know (in the army the dates for things change all the time, so gotta keep hoping). Will keep using my Persona this month just in case we can fit one or two BDs in at the right time.

NattyandThomasandBump How are you?

RachelRose and rubles how are you and how are you getting on?

Hi babymad - How are you doing, I'm doing well. Feel pretty relaxed this month - think maybe its cos I'm temping and they are, so far, in a nice pattern and not all over the place.

Whats going on with you - Did you OV yet? I think the last update from you was that you were about to OV? You've also got some tests coming up haven't you?

Morning ladies, feeling a bit sick and scared having read this guess it is good to know these things or maybe it isn't?! It was sold to me as Pregnancy Secrets in the MN newsletter!

Not much to report CD14, opks negative, trying to think of cunning ways to get DH to BD for the next week (I should OV on Monday).

Babydust to all....

(too stunned by that thread to say much this morning!)

CD16 today last chance to get PG tonight, I don't know what's been going on with my cycle this time! Had a skin infection so I was put on antibiotics we didn't BD from CD7-CD10 because of the tablets but we BD on CD11 and 12 as CM was getting watery so I thought I was OVing or going to, even tho TEMP was saying different! Temps are saying I Oved on CD5 while still on AF I started feeling unwell on Tuesday night so didn't (couldn't) feel up to BDing, I've BDed twice this cycle oh well sometimes things don't pan out the way we plan do they! I feel loads better today so DH might be lucky when he gets home. I'm going to just relax and from now to when I'm planning the next lot of BDing and maybe by then we'll know what's wrong if anything. DH going for S-test on Sunday so cant BD after today but it's also my last chance day anyway, as I believe you need 10 days for implantation (please correct me if I'm wrong) and I have a 26 day cycle. I will be going for my scan and x-ray in just under 3 weeks, cant wait to find out what they say!

RachelRose charting made me feel more relaxed, for me I felt more in control with ttc and I can say hand on heart that I haven't been stressed since charting!

MrsMc, I have looked at most of that thread, but I'm not sure it should be read by someone who hasn't been through it - it's very frightening if you can't balance it up with your own positive memories.
There are some good practical points in there, but some of it I think you don't need to know until you go through it. It is by nature a negative thread, because it is all about the horrors. I loved giving birth and although I posted on that thread about my bruising, I would love to do it all over again many, many times.

I ov'd yesterday. Had a + opk then a massive drop in temp the next day and then today an even bigger rise and my boobs are now tender. The trouble is that we didn't BD yesterday on ov day - we have been on an every other day sort of routine, and yesterday I don't think either of us was in the mood. Can you all reassure me that this was enough and I didn't have to force dp into action last night, please?

Rachelrose, I am glad the temping is going well for you, it is quite satisfying when you start to see a pattern.

Endlesslove - you don't sound like you are overdoing the BD to me, it sounds about right, as long as you are both enjoying it.

Babymad2Ds, where are you at in your cycle now?

Babymad - sorry X posts there. I am going for my scan and Xray around the same time as you. Everything seems a bit screwy for you this month, if you ovulated on CD5 then you would be due your AF any time now - I reckon the infection has probably made your temps null and void this month, so you should just BD tonight and then cross your fingers that this will be fine. If the CM is becoming fertile then that is good.

RachelRose- thanks for the review of the the thermometer... will check out Boots.

MrsMcJnr - Agree, I read that and thought, why am I TTC again? It's got to be worth it though!!

Babydust x

rubles After tonight it'll be a waitting game, i hate that bit but i'm hopeful that i'll know by the next lot of planing and BD, so on, what is going on with mine and DH bodies, so to speak! I go for my sacn and stuff on the 8th of nov when is yours?

NattyThomasandBump - thanks for visiting us! How are you feeling?

Hello Ready4motherhood, Saf1 & Endless and all the other Nov ladies.

Thanks Rubles I normally would not read something like that and try to be subjective about my friends awful birth stories but that made me really scared. Most people have told me that whatever happened, they still consider it the most amazing moment of their lives.

The fact that you BD every other fertile day pre OV should, technically, mean that there would be sperm waiting to meet your egg when you OV so even if you did not BD yesterday, your chances of conceiving from the BD in the five days previous to it stand you in great stead. You could have one last BD today, the egg might still be viable if the other BDs have not done the trick. It's such a shame that it is not an exact science though isn't it?!

Hey Rachelrose, your thermometer sounds much better than mine mine does not have a case, or a book and it beeps nor does it have a light! Has anyone found one that does have a light? Hope you like the pre-seed, it isn't really fiddley to use, I thought it would be. I got the OV strips too. They are a bit fiddley cos you have to pee in something else and then stick the strip in (you probably already know that but I had never used the strips before) which can be a bit tricky when you are at work!

MrsMc, I get a plastic water cup from the water fountain, pretend to drink from it then pop it in my bag for when I go to the loo. It's a military manoeuvre!

Babymad - my scan is on 15th Nov, and HSG is somewhere between 7th and 10th Nov.

He, he - I have a little plastic cup secreted away in my bag (washed and dried each time of course) plus a plastic bag to take the evidence away

Oh, but then I have the problem of reading the tests when at work. I can't sit in the loo for 5/10 minutes so I put it on my desk and hide as much of it as I can with a bit of paper.
The trouble with that is that I have cleared my desk at the end of the day and left the stick out on it - I was mortified when I got back to work 4 DAYS later. We have an 'empty desk' policy here so all desks are clear, and also everyone sits in each others' desks. When I came in there was my empty desk with a solitary OPK on it.

oh no

Thanks for posting the link on giving birth MrsMcJnr - and like others have said, there are so many positive aspects to giving birth, the negative ones are just there to balance it out! I have a photo of me about 6 hours after giving birth looking like I have just won the olympics or something, standing holding a massive bouquet of flowers with one arm punching the air (Tim Henman style - what was I thinking?!), ear to ear grin and ginormous, leaking boobs. makes me laugh everytime I see it.

Looks like I'm going to be OVing while I'm on my girlie weekend away - doh! Very early EWCM this month, so have been BDing as much as we can before I go.

Positive vibes to anyone now on 2ww....

Oooh, I like a good girlie weekend away Bodkin - where are you off to? We (DH and DS) are off to my parents in newcastle this weekend. Not that exotic, but should be fun.

Agree with the other posters re: giving birth. To be honest I think the stories always sound worse in hindsight. At the time there is so much going on for the mother that it doesn't seem quite so bad - well, thats my rose-tinted view of it all

London, RR. Going to stay with lovely friend in her gorgeous single girl's flat and drink loads of Rioja, talk rubbish and preempt a BFP this month by buying loads of deeply unsuitable size 12 clothes! Live in the sticks with only a New Look and Peacocks - gaaah!

Have a good weekend yourself - will it make bding a bit tricky being at your parents or are you not going to be at the crucial stage this w/e?

That sounds great!! I haven't bought any clothes for ages.

Am not going to be at crucial stage (CD7 today), but being there has never stopped us before . Also, my parents refuse to accept they are going slightly deaf anyway...

Have fun!!!!!

Hi girls

Well CD17 and got a positive ovulation test this morning. Bit strange though and don't know if anyone can advise me, but my CM is not egg white like last month. (TMI alert...) CM is wet and I feel a wet sensation all the time today. Does this mean that I don't have the right "environment" this cycle so should just forget my chances?

Couldn't baby dance this morning as running late for work so will get some action in tonight. I haven't told DH that i am apparently ovulating as don't want him to feel stressed out!

I babydanced yesterday morning and also on Tuesday morning so should be ok for not baby dancing this morning.

How are you all doing! PMSL at the cup on the desk!

Mrs, that thread horrified me! It will be worth it though when you hold your dc and kiss their tiny nose...aaah!

BABYDUST TO ALL

Hey ladies, feeling a bit down in the dumps today I think everything is just getting too much for me.

I feel like we are never going to conceive, before you all yell at me and tell me not to be so impatient and selfish after only 4 months of trying, hear me out. Maybe I have been reading too much or am fed up with myself for not losing weight (though my BMI is 23 so technically, that should not hinder me) but I just feel I don't "work" properly.

Then there's my job, I am really bored and fed up with what I am meant to be doing. I have very little motivation and only work really hard when I really have to. I never used to be like this. Normally I would move on without a second thought but this is different, it is a start up company and I do feel some loyality and need to see it through. Probably misplaced as every month they make noises about not being able to keep me on.

That's another thing, the worry of not having a job if I fall pregnant or having to find a new one. I just don't want to put TTC on hold because I just don't know how long it'll take, no-one does.

Then there is our house, it is on the market as some of you know and though I really don't want to move, it is best for the future and financially if we do but we've only had one viewing in 3 weeks.

Worst of all, we are really skint and are counting pennies all the time. We devised a plan to keep everything on an even keel until Christmas but now I am worried that if we don't sell the house in that time frame, we'll be even more worried about money and that will in turn cause more stress.

I am not normally someone to get down like this but working alone, I have no colleagues to chat to during the day and I think that I let things get on top of me. I know that worrying about things that might never happen is a complete waste of time but unfortunately it doesn't stop me.

Thanks for listening

Oh, MrsMcJnr - breaks my heart to hear you so down in the dumps when you are such a positive and helpful force on here.

You sound a bit like me - you like to do everything right and please everyone. But do not underestimate the stress of TTC, it can take over your life a bit and you feel like you are in limbo not knowing when it is going to happen.

I can't really offer any solutions or advice, but my deepest sympathies. We have all felt the frustration at being unable to achieve something that is, really, beyond our control to a certain extent. It is not like an exam, where if you study hard and read the right books then you will get the result. I was like that with motherhood the first time round - read every book in the hope I would find out the answers, I never did, but muddled through somehow. You will get there in the end though and one day the whole, work-house-baby conundrum will suddenly be resolved without you really realising how.

Am sure others on here will have far wiser words than me.

{{{Hugs}}}}

and double at that thread mrsmcjnr posted!!! that is enough to make any woman get sterilised. but i am prepared to go through anything to get my baby (she says....)

as all you wise and wonderful ladies are over here i shall ask my question on this thread not october one.
i am cd24 today of 26 day cycle but....i have so much cm its scary..does this mean its all over forme now as arnt you supposed to dry up before a bfp?!

MrsMcJnr - sorry it is all getting on top of you.
I know when you have been trying for 4 months it seems like a long time, I remember saying that on MN when I had been trying that long. It is the not knowing how much longer you have got to try that makes us worry - if you knew that it was going to happen next month you'd be fine about it, because 5 months isn't too bad at time to be ttc, but you don't know do you, so that's what makes the stess.
You seem to have a lot of issues going on around you at the moment, and they are proper grown-up issues that all inter-relate and overlap. Financial worries are very stressful (we are going through major ones at the moment, so empathise with you) and underlying that you want to be pregnant and don't know how long it is going to take. You don't even have the safe-haven of a satisfying job with good work colleagues to take your mind off it. It is very understandable that you feel everything is getting on top of you.

I think you have to start tackling what you can tackle, bit by bit. Personally, I'd forget about loyalty to the company and start a job search - it'll stand you in good stead if they make you redundant anyway. Then if you find something better, hopefully the change will do you good and there will be more security for you. Also, it's positive and hopeful and it might take your mind off things.

Could you rent your house out if you can't sell it - or is that a ridiculous idea? For some reason I have the idea that you live in Edinburgh, but don't know why. Could you move in to it and rent one of the rooms out to a lodger, then continue to rent the flat out? Do you have any feedback from the estate agents about what the viewers thought of your house, or why you aren't getting many viewers?

Also, another thing I have done is try and take the ttc bit out of the whole equation. So assume you will NOT be pregnant for a long time and so make decisions accordingly. If then a pregnancy does come along to put the mockers on everything, well then you'd have to replan accordingly but at least it would be happy replanning. Rather than planning everything as if you were going to be pregnant so you basically don't do anything with your life and then you AREN'T pregnant either.

Poor you, as Bodkin said, you are normally such a positive voice on this thread.

desperate2bmum - are you still getting those cramps?