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For anyone TTC or thinking about TTC with Soy Isoflavones

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Disneylandkilledmychildhood · 23/10/2014 21:18

I will be starting soy isoflavones tomorrow, cd 3.

This will be my 11th cycle TTC, with two chemical pregnancies/ early miscarriages @ about 5weeks so far this year already.

I've read up quite a lot on SI, and just at the point now where I'm thinking, what the hell, I'll give it a go!

Anybody else TTC with soy isoflavones?

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GingerbreadHead · 25/10/2014 20:12

Hahaha!! Frolic I love your slogan!!! There must be some evidence out there that getting a puppy can increase your chances of conceiving, maybe that can be our back up plan if Soy doesn't work!!
I only took 100mg every day as my cycles are pretty normal, if there are no adverse effects this cycle (or no BFP) then I think I will take 100mg 4,5,6 and then up to 150 days 7 and 8 next cycle. Not had a dodgy tum, but was feeling a bit bleurgh and queasy today, not sure if it was the soy or not enough sleep! Definately been feeling more crampy than normal though, hopefully it will be that egg getting nice and strong and inviting Grin

EnglishGirlsReturned · 26/10/2014 01:03

Moomin - I wouldn't advise taking them everyday. For TTC purposes you're only supposed to take them for 5 days and then STOP. I'd speak to your dr again, there is an injection you can have to induce your periods, although I don't know what it's called.

I've generally done days 1&2 of taking it on a lower dosage and then upped from 3.
I've gone for quite high dosages.

Moomin37 · 26/10/2014 07:54

Thanks EnglishGirlsReturned I'll stop taking them. My GP won't see me for another three months, so have to forget ttc for now - easier said than done when you're 35 and friends and family are producing babies left right and centre Sad I'm furious that I have mentioned to both GP and nurse in last 12-18 months that I was planning to start TTC and neither of them warned me about how long it might take for my body to get back to normal Angry

Oh well - there's always someone worse off and I guess I just have to be patient. Fx for you Smile

EnglishGirlsReturned · 26/10/2014 08:03

That's ridiculous Moomin Angry, I'd go back and kick off! I'm not entirely sure how healthy it is to have cycles that long!! Maybe you could see an acupuncturist and they could kick start things for you. Mine seems to working wonders for my crazy cycles.
GPS definitely need to start warning women how hard it can be to TTC, and advise them to come off bc early.

Disneylandkilledmychildhood · 26/10/2014 18:15

Sorry for the absence from thread, I'm away this weekend. I found some inspiration and encouraging stories about soy isoflavones here community.babycentre.co.uk/post/a12154345/bfps_with_soy_isoflavones.

The success rate seems promising.

Good luck everyone!

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LoopyLa · 26/10/2014 18:59

Disney what an excellent thread to read through - really encouraging, thank you Smile

Frolicacid · 26/10/2014 19:43

Sorry you had such bad advice moomin. I hope af arrives soon so you can get in with things.

Thank you for the link disney. Lovely to hear positive stories.

I'm upping my dose tonight to 150mg. No side effects so far, just vivid dreams. I have a bad taste in my mouth, but think that's down to an impending cold. Not what I need with my fertile week coming up!

Disneylandkilledmychildhood · 26/10/2014 19:48

I've upped mine to 150mg today also. I found that thread really inspiring and it's given me some hope too!

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MoreBoober · 26/10/2014 19:58

Hi Ladies

Keep faith, I did a soy cycle straight after my lap and dye and got my big fat positive on that cycle. He's now nearly four Grin
Good luck Wink

spinningirl10 · 26/10/2014 20:05

Disney, thanks for link, some very positive stories there. So many get their bfp after 1 cycle!

Disneylandkilledmychildhood · 26/10/2014 20:26

I know Spinningirl, it's so amazing. Hoping we are all that lucky!

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GingerbreadHead · 26/10/2014 20:45

Thanks for the link Disney, I think I have read through that thread before, it helped encourage me to give it a go too! Especially love the ones who got their BFP with soy after trying for ages! I just realised I have been waking up with horrific headaches, but they have stopped for the last few days, so wonder if it might have been the soy, I took it just before bed each night, so maybe one to watch out for.
Do you think if it doesn't work first cycle I need to change the dose or the days?

EnglishGirlsReturned · 26/10/2014 20:48

Ginger - I also got really bad headaches the mornings after I took soy. Definitely a side effect.
I upped it after the first cycle as I still ov'd quite late. If this cycle isn't successful I'll keep the does age the same as I ov'd at a perfect cd14 this cycle.

spinningirl10 · 26/10/2014 20:49

They didn't work for me first cycle, I'm now on cycle 3 with soy and I'm going to do cd 4-9. Last cycles I took them cd3-7.

Disneylandkilledmychildhood · 27/10/2014 13:42

How is everyone doing today? I'm on 4th day of SI (cd6) and feeling nauseous and like I generally do pre-period... Has anyone else had this side effect?

Also, anyone close to poas and hopefully getting their bfp yet?

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NewLeafExpat · 27/10/2014 16:58

time to search all shops in Asia and buy me some soy! long cycles and pretty sure I'm not ovulating ... Good luck to all ladies. I'm going to find SI and wait out AF ... (cd50 And counting today...)

BobsyBoo · 27/10/2014 19:03

Unfortunately AF arrived for me today after 6 days of spotting! However I did take a very low dose of the Soy only 40mg a day for the 5 days. It must have done something though because I ov'd 3 days earlier than normal and I got a positive opk on the cheap strip one's that had never showed me a positive result before.

On to the next cycle now and will start taking on Wednesday CD3, starting at 120mg and gradually build up, then take the maximum amount of 200mg on CD7.

NewLeaf Can you get the Soy online?

Disneylandkilledmychildhood · 27/10/2014 20:28

Sorry to hear about that Bobsyboo. At least you know that it was working to some extent though in bringing your ovulation forward. Good luck for your next cycle.

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Pikz · 27/10/2014 21:01

First cycle of soy cd3-7. On cd13 now so awaiting ov. Usually have long cycles and ov cd22+ so hoping it brings it forward

LoopyLa · 27/10/2014 21:59

AF arrived Angry

Very annoyed as I've wasted 6 HPTs including both FRERs as I was cd32/dpo 14 days. Bloody bollucks.

On the upside, my next cycle will be with the soy for the first time so could be interesting to see what happens. FX to everyone!

Frolicacid · 27/10/2014 22:24

Cycle day 8 here. I upped my dose to 150mg last night and the same tonight. May go the whole hog up to 200mg for the last dose tomorrow.
I'm a bit worried that I've had no side effects. Crazy, I know, but I can't help thinking that I should have waited to get to holland and barrat rather than buy something off e-bay! They look genuine, but what if they're duds?

Jyst had a negative opk, which is to be expected as I don't usually ov until around day 17-20. Good job as both DH and I are shattered!

Who will be the first to test from this thread? Looking forward to seeing the BFP's roll in!

NewLeafExpat · 28/10/2014 01:49

hi Bobsy, interesting it brought your Ov forward even though you only took 40mgs...

no luck buying online but we have Gnc stores which should sell it.

excited to soy! will post an update once I've found some!

EnglishGirlsReturned · 28/10/2014 06:41

Frolic I'd def up for the last dose. First cycle I ov'd 12 days after last dose, this cycle it was 8days. Apparently most people ov 7-10days after their last dose. But make sure your really monitor it, my OPKs went from barely a line to a really dark one in 24 hours!

I'm testing on Thursday Shock

Frolicacid · 28/10/2014 07:42

Woke up with a massive headache! Maybe they are the real deal.

Thanks spinning. I have loads of opk's so will keep a close eye. I've even bought some midstream ones that will be easier to use at work obsessed .
Good luck Thursday - I hope the soy is as good as that thread promises.

NewLeafExpat · 28/10/2014 07:46

Hi ladies. So I havent bought or tried Soy and was totally intrigued after hearing it brought forward all your Ov days...

however I just came across this article online: www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/170-scientific-reasons-to-lose-the-soy-in-your-diet/ and although its not from a proper 'official' website there are a few other sites that point against using soy for women.

I'm on the fence...

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