TTC after MC - the best shit place to be!

[Treaclepie19]

The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

After all that... Just got an actual positive on an OPK!! Yay :) brings my ovulation back to CD15

Hello , I've come back to this thread after having a break from everything pregnancy related. It gets too much sometimes!

On 2nd cycle since m/c, due af tomorrow. Took a early test friday got the faintest line (lunch time) but on sat am got a neg with the same brand early test. So im feeling all over at the moment. I've got sore boobs, bloating on the evening (dont normally with af), waking up at 5am to pee, headache but these could be symptoms of af. I don't really know what to think, im scared for tomorrow as i dont want another disappointment and im desperate to have my baby back.

Do you think i should use a early preg. test tomorrow or just a normal clearblue/first response test?

Amy27 sorry to hear that youre having an awful day. The bad days will get a little less as time goes on (i know no help atm) and Addison is a beautiful name. We named our little girl Ila Grace who we lost at 6w2d, it is helping us alot knowing she had a name. Even though we've had a few off unhelpful family members!

congrats charlie, hope you have a safe and stress free pregnancy!

brummiegirl i know how frustrating it is! I want to test straight after ovulation. I just need to know.

Monten im so sorry for your crappy weekend. I know how it feels (slightly) it feels like they're shoving it in your face, and noone knows how painful it is. A good friend of the family gave birth two nights ago, we all piled over to see the newborn as my mother insisted. I just want to scream why do you get your baby and not me? It was made harder as the baby was a 'surprise', and they said they were surprised we hadnt had kids yet as we've been taking about children for years. Ffs!I just wanted to shout i had a baby but she died, and she was very much loved and wanted.

chasingrainbow hope your feeling a little brighter soon.

cloudjumper hows the 2ww going? I hate the 2ww, last month dragged and so has this month. keeping everything crossed for you.

daisysunshine2 woohoo! Will be keeping everything crossed for you :)

Daisy Thank you so much! Good news on your OPK, fx for a bfp!

Elley Thanks hun, Ila is a lovely name (one of our options too!). I was really unsure about naming her... but it has helped a lot. Its helping to think of her as an actual human being with an actual name than just 'pregnancy tissue' as she was described by hospital staff.

P.s I wanna whisper congrats? I was always told a line is a line! a negative is not always a negative... so I would definitely take a lot of first response tests... and let us know straight away! everything crossed hunny good luck x

Lovely names for your lost LOs.

Work was lovely. As much as a department we don't always get along, everyone knew how much I wanted another baby, so were all sympathetic. I left at 1 anyway coz I had a GP appt about the lumps. Dr thinks it is just cysts and as long as they keep going down, nothing to worry about.
Also did a HPT this afternoon which looked pretty negative considering in the past 2 very distinct lines visible regardless of time. OH agreed negative, but he's too busy to seize the moment with me so looks like Aug baby is out of the window.
Anyway, at least we can move forward now, whatever we do.

Elley When is your af due? would it be worth holding out on the testing? If not then the clearblue with the plus sign always worked for me or an FRER. I'm not so keen on the digital ones because I can't obsess over whether there is a line there if i hold it up to the light for up to an hour later As Amyyy says.. a line is a line! :)

Eggs I'm glad work went well and that your doctors appointment did too :) And as you said, at least you can now move forward and start TTC afresh :)

Eggs Pleased work went well for you. Can I ask about your lumps though (ha!) Its just I get them down below every so often.. they come out of nowhere and then disappear for a month or so. Dr google told me it was cysts so never went to the GP.. is that what happens with yours?

Plus good to heard about the negative test in terms of moving forward. We are still stuck with a very faint line but it was so faint on the last one I'm gunna test again tomorrow and see how it goes.

Daisy haha that is the same reason I don't buy digitals!

Hi Amyyy. I'd never had them b4 then I've had 4 in a month. They are a bit uncomfortable depending on location but dr said as long as they keep going on there own nothing to worry about.
Unrelated to the infection.

Lovely names for your LOs. As everyone has said, they were babies we never got to meet and were very much loved right from the start

elley I am also a believer that a line is line! I would get a frer. More sensitive than a clearblue digital I think. I like the digital ones - love seeing the word 'pregnant' - but I find the flashing symbol while you wait too hard! And in my experience, the longer it flashes the less likely it is to be positive. For me 'pregnant' has always come up really quickly so when it flashes for ages my heart slowly sinks. Horrible. Anyway - sure it won't do that for you! Let us know how you get on.

Thanks for saying hello madamoiselle and masses and masses of luck. What you said about seeing each other on the antenatal board really calmed me. We will all get there.

Still waiting for af. Due tomorrow.

Daisy I have thrown all my Internet cheapy opks and pregnancy tests. I've NEVER had a pos on the opks. They were always stark white. . I've only had a faint line twice in the year I tried them for.... Then I used one of the cheapy preggo tests that are supposed to be really sensitive when I knew my hcg was well over 400 and only got a faint line!

Thank you for all your kind words. I've no holiday to use but only work 2 days pw so feels like although hard, they are over quick. The disruption of my absence risks my job, it's just not worth it.

Beautiful names guys. I think naming your baby is a lovely idea. I'm not sure if I'm there yet myself. Feeling a 2nd wave of grief I think.

Nausea is fever pitch today. Absolutely exhausted. Feeling a lot of twitching and mild cramping on my right side today.

Amyyy27 thank you! We decided to use a name we weren't originally going to use for her. We thought if we choose something unique for her it'll be more special. It is hard though, but i think in the long run it helps. Sometimes if im having down days hubby will ask 'you thinking of ila?' hearing her name helps me believe that she was here once.

Thank you, went out and bought the BOGF offer in boots on the FRER tests. Going to test tomorrow morning, but not too hopeful as cramps have started tonight. (Then again i had cramps throughout Ila's pregnancy so hmmm) But thank youfor the well wishes.

Gr33dyeggs im so sorry this month isnt the month. Has af arrived? hopefully a september baby might just be?

Daisysunshine2 Im due on tomorrow. :S nervous. Now have 12 (yes 12! pregnancy sticks - FRER, FR, Clearblue, Asda,Boots, and clearblue digi think ill set up my own shop!) in my knickerdraw. eek.And got the FRER test sticks today never used them before . Ohh do you do the shine a torch/ hold it up to the window/light/lamp thing too?? Hubby thinks im losing it holding it up to every possible light score saying 'is it grey, pink or not a line?'.

Monten i love the digi ones but only when i know for sure im pregnant it crushes my heart more when it screams not pregnant at you and you cant wander round checking it under the light. But bought my first FRER tests today for tomorrow morning.

Chasingtherainbow hope you feel brighter soon, i think m/c is one hard lonely experience to go through. Wish they told you about m/c in school/college or even in the pregnancy books! Mumsnet really did help during the first awful first weeks.

chasing I'm not sure I'll use them again, I don't think I trust them! Def would never use the pregnancy ones, they never went positive for me when the digital one said pregnant!
elley I think you definitely could open a shop! Good luck for testing tomorrow :) got everything crossed for you :) I've just realised that this month we've got a ball the day I'll be testing (if I manage to wait until 14dpo) and I know if it's positive obviously no drinking but I know if its negative I won't trust it so how to not drink... Hmm have to think about this one! :)

Hi, I'm new to this thread and wanted some advice.
I've held off posting as I'm aware that there are plenty of people on here who've had a far tougher time than me.
I had a MMC which was diagnosed on 10th Oct at approx 20 weeks, it appeared that everything had stopped 2 weeks before. I opted for medical management which I had on 13th. A scan on 24th showed retained products and I had an ERPC on 27th. My bleeding stopped fairly quickly and the following weekend I got ov symptoms. I got a smiley on OPK on the Sunday but think this was poss residual hormones. I had several -ve OPKs that week then a smiley on 7th. We DTD end that week.
I started with spotting this Saturday (7 DPO) and it's continuing today with one episode of a little bit more blood. This has now settled to blood on wiping. No cramps either.
Any ideas wtf is going on???
I'm normally v upbeat and positive but have been really fed up and down in the dumps today.m

daisysunshine2 Haha! I think i will do..thank you im going to bed early tonight and try not to think about the big day tomorrow. Ohh no! You could stick to lemonade and pretend its a g+t? ttc is so difficult when it comes to making plans. Will you be testing before 14dpo? Will be keeping my fingers and toes crossed for you too.

Fififolle hello and welcome. I'm so sorry to hear about your little one, how are you and your partner holding up? Its an awful time and so fustrating/tense/overwhelming time. Are you off work atm? I had a natural mc much earlier than you so i dont have any real advice apart from my cycle was messed up (as others posted a wtf cycle!) i had a week of heavy bleeding, stopped one week then spotting two days and a heavy bleed for half a day until i had a period two weeks after that. I do think it takes a while for your body/hormones to get back into the swing of things. xx

Elleybear no AF yet. I'm in the WTF cycle but had what felt like ovulation pain so did a test to see if neg on the slim chance I fell this time I could say I'd had a neg test.
fifi so sorry for your loss. I can't offer much advice. I think my cycle returned to normal quite soon after my 1st mc and looking like it could be this time too (both natural) Perhaps this is it with you? Have you had a negative check? If so its possibly a positive sign - if pg, isn't implantation around then?

Glad it was calming monten - it made me realise I actually meant it! Of course we will get there. It will be so extra special.

(Obviously still lurking. But not an opk, cbfm or thermometer in sight!)

Red blood again today :-( Guess it's not called the WTF cycle fof nothing!

Unfortunately looks like is may be joining you ladies, I'm in the process of having my second miscarriage in 6 months. Pretty cheesed off tbh, but hopefully will be back on the bus again soon

Morning! Today was the big day....took a frer test and its negative. :( af due today so we'll see. The weird thing is when i took the test on friday i felt pregnant and got that super faint pos. So im wondering if i was and it didnt stick?Today i just feel a bit crappy. Ive been reading success stories about concieving in the first (wtf) and second cycle. I thought we'd be one of the lucky ones. Ttc after m/c sucks you know what its like and what you should have. :( todays my day off from work going to wallow in bed. Thanks for all your support ladies! glenpip im sorry to read that your joining us. I cant imagine going through a second mc hope your holding up. xx. gr33dyeggs i read somewhere women dont ovulate till there second cycle (and some do) i too hoped id fall on my first wtf cycle it'd make the pain of losing ila less.

Welcome Glenpip - sorry that you find yourself here.

Sorry about the BFN Elley. I think it's only natural after the heartache of a mc to cling on to the hope that you'll get pregnant immediately. It does happen to a lucky few, but in my case I'm not sure my body was ready (nor do I think I would have been emotionally ready either, as I was so much more worried after my second BFP). You WILL get there.

Welcome glenpip and fifi. Sorry for your losses. It's truly shit but you have found the right place to moan/vent/commiserate.

elley am so sorry it was negative. What could be going on? I'm afraid I don't know enough about those strips to say whether a false positive is possible or it indeed was a chemical pregnancy. Am so sorry. The waiting and not knowing and af being late is agonising.

Do you know madamoiselle I woke up much more positive today too. It will happen. Christmas is making me so sad, thinking what was happening this time last year (newly pregnant). But I've just decided to think about the year before instead! We were buying a house and I knew we'd be starting to try for a baby soon. I was really happy. I'm going to try and focus on that not what could have been.

I agree with cariad - I think the whole 'more fertile after a miscarriage' thing is awful, it just makes us feel anxious if we don't miss our 'window'. As if we don't have enough crap to go through.

cariad2014 thank you for your supportive words. If you dont mind me asking how many cycles did you have till you fell pregnant again? Its my third next month. And youre exactly right, i just want my baby back and honestly if they told me i needed to chop my arms off for me to fall pregnant i would! (Sound a tad crazy saying that!) hopefully next month will be my month.....

Elley - I got pregnant on my third cycle post mc. (After falling pregnant for the first time ever in June on cycle 2). Sadly, pregnancy 2 was an ectopic, so I'm on cycle 1 of TTC again after that at the moment, although I have zero symptoms, so reckon AF will be here in the next few days.

I'm now less fertile than I was (had my right Fallopian tube removed so feetility is reduced to around 65% of what it was), but I'm still hoping that I'll fall quickly again this time. Only time will tell I guess...

I can't help but wonder if the 'more fertile after MC' thing is said to is by professionals to make us feel more positive after a loss. I certainly didn't experience any extra fertility magic, quite the opposite sadly.

Think I'm in the 2ww although my fertility monitor has helpfully told me this morning that it failed to detect OV based on my temps. I have been ill with a horrible head cold, so hoping that's why my temps were slightly erratic.

I have creamy CM now which is progesterone linked so to my mind if I didn't ovulate I would still be producing watery, fertile CM. Dunno, as usual out bodies are a total mystery to us.