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[Gingerbreadlady1]

For old birds to support each other through the madness. New old birds are most welcome, join us in the chicken coop.

Hi Annie. That should have been

Glad to hear you're more positive Annie, I'm always a nightmare before AF arrives as well. It's better when you're started and underway! As you say onwards and upwards.

How is everyone else? I'll need to test at the weekend if nothing happens this week... this week won't go too slowly then!!

Hey there

Ahh Annie you haven't taken over this thread or scared this newbie off. I'm just sorry you were feeling so mis about it all. Your consultant sounds like a right twat - praying? Hope you are feeling more ok about things now you've got your AF.

I think it must be especially hard if you go a little wobbly round that time anyways - let alone if you're ttc. Ug.

I'm feeling rather over dramatic - this is only my 3rd cycle - just in the ghastly 2ww (two weeks wait right?) so a whole 13 days to wait. It's just the blinking not knowing that's totally doing my head in. And am trying to plan a wedding for next year too and don't know when to do it... and know I should just act like I'm not ttc and plan it for whenever we want anyways but I find it impossible not to feel a bit in limbo with it all.

And the wondering.. and hoping. Awful. It reminds me of that quote from Clockwise - I can take the despair. It's the hope I can't stand.

And then two of my lovely lovely friends told me last week they were pg and I'm so happy for them both (also both older and been trying for 12-24 months) but also felt a horrible ug enviousness which is not a nice feeling at all. (btw Annie think you are very good to be able to enjoy a baby shower at work - am not sure I could even before ttc).

So all in all I'm feeling like a ridiculous dramatic horrible person and doing all the wrong things.. I've peed on a stick which confirmed when the big O should be happening - as predicted by the fertility app thingy... but I just don't think I can face doing anything more just yet - like temps or more peeing on sticks or anything. I'm still drinking caffeine and boooze and I probably should be taken vitamins and eating more healthily etc etc etc but I just feel so fecking drained by just managing the feelings at the moment. Not sure I can do more proper stuff. Ugity ickity ug ug ug.

Right - there you go - sorry just did a stupid All About Me rant but it has made me feel a sliver of light better so thank you lovely ladiez for listening (or even just skim reading this bleurgh .

Good luck to all of you on your ttc journeys.

x

glacier don't worry about an all about me rant, that's the point isn't it? Anyway, I totally get how you're feeling, it's sooo frustrating. Good luck for the test. I think with regards caffeine and booze etc, carrying on as normal is probably a good idea at this early stage. Soon enough you will have to give it up so carry on whilst you can. I kind of think it's like cheating it all, like a double bluff..."I know I'm supposed to be acting like I'm not trying but we all know I am so if I pretend like I am, my body might be tricked into it and get pg...." Or something like that!!

I think AF might be on it's way ... despite feeling exactly like it did the last time before the MC, I am now getting some spotting bang on schedule like I always do before it starts properly so having a bit of a bad day... My body totally tricked me and I'm being a bit superstitious and panicky thinking that we got pg the first time so easily (although of course it ended up with a MC), that now it's not going to be as easy this time around...

Anyway must press on, Annie hope you're doing ok and all the other old birds too. We must stick together! xx

Quick update from me, I saw IVF consultant today and Frozen embryo transfer now scheduled for jan. Start drugs in 2 weeks. Happening v quick as IVF clinic is closing down for good at end feb.

Ooh exciting Annie! It'll fly by too what with Christmas in between x

Oh, that's brilliant annie...it must be good to get a date.

Just to let you know that I had my 12 week scan, and all is fine .

Now.....which of you lovely ladies would like a FREE tube of Conceive Plus? I ordered it just before I got my BFP, so never had to use it - it's unopened!

(interesting, I had the tiniest bit of EWCM the cycle I got my BFP, but obviously a little is all you need...).

Hey fellow old birds! New old bird here! 43 and TTC no 3 with OH. I have 2 DDs but he has none so here I go again! Google research suggests it's a bit of a lost cause as so ancient but at least we can say we have given it a go. Anyone else as old as me or am I the most ancient?!

There's at least 2 upduffed 42 year olds on the Old Birds graduates thread mad....

Statistics are funny things too, and you can draw almost anything you like from them. Your chances lessen as you get older, but statistically (not anecdotally) that would just mean that it took you longer to get PG, not that it was impossible.

There are 48 year olds who get knocked up accidentally, and there are 20 somethings who turn out to be totally infertile.

Although saying this, I could be a textbook explanation of how declining fertility works- I was always embarrassingly, contraception- defyingly fertile. Then I actually started trying for a baby, at age 39/40, and it didn't happen......for 9 months. And then it did .

Thanks stubborn and congrats! going to try not to get too obsessed - if it happens, then great. If not, then wasn't meant to be.

Hey ladies. Been absent but thought I'd pop in. Annie - good news you've got the ball rolling. Fingers crossed.

DH dropped off his sample yesterday amidst what seemed to be a military operation. Cups, packages, cycling to hospital with package nuzzled in his down jacket to keep it warm. Got lost in hospital - couldn't find pathology lab. Bless him, but he got there in the end! Got my blood tests a week on Tuesday so it's all a bit of a waiting game.

Is it too early for a snowball? :-)

Glad your man delivered his deposit ok in the end ranchgirl

Drat pressed send too soon.

Best of luck with the next IVF annie - sending lots of positive vibes. That us such a roller coaster to be on.

Thanks Katie for your msg. Really hope it wasn't AF for you. Mc seems a pretty horrible experience and then leaves you with loads more anxiety - my sister had one before her two and meant she was anxious till 12wks. Hugs.

Ha Stubborn - you sound like you're me (except I'm still waiting for the big positive).

Hi everyone,

I thought it might cheer some of you up to know that I once did a project on fertility & the oldest woman to ever get pregnant naturally was 58! As we are all in our 30's/40's, we have loads of time left!

Annie I am so sorry to hear about your consultant. He sounds like a complete idiot & should be struck off.

Glacier I know exactly how you feel. Sometimes it is so hard to smile and be positive. Ttc really is shit & unless you have been through it, impossible to understand.

It really helps being able to talk to other people going through the same thing.

Just having a read and catch up with you and your progress ladies. So nice to hear that things are moving in the right direction for so many of you.

I had the HSG scan 2 weeks ago. Should be hearing from them soon. Even if there are no problems, its looking unlikely that ill start Chlomid this cycle, at least we can get christmas out of the way. Its normally mental in our house with reli's flying in from all over and needing beds to sleep in. Probably a good thing as i dont quite know how it would make me feel/act, and how could we escape for the scans etc without the whole fam knowing.

AF due next week booo

P xx

Evening ladies. Can anyone tell me if I need to not eat before my blood tests for initial infertility tests? Doctor didn't say anything so I'm hoping I can have breakfast first!

Do you mean the tests you do on day 3 and/ or day 21(ish) of your cycle, ranchgirl? If so, eat away!

Yes those ones, thanks! :-)

Hi girls, yes AF did arrive :-(. In a funny way I'm pleased as it's actually 3 days earlier than I was expecting which is a plus on two counts, one I get it over faster and can get back trying but also if it doesn't work again next month, hopefully I'll be over before the new year's festivities are finished which will be nicer. Am also looking on the positive that it would have been pretty tricky explaining why I wasn't drinking... and yes I realise that makes me a lush as EVERYONE would have found it odd... . Anyway, onwards and upwards. Thank you Glacier, that's sweet of you.

BTW I meant to say, sorry if I sounded smug (hate smug people) when I said I conceived easily the first time, I didn't mean to sound like that and clearly it didn't all end up ok anyway. Makes me think some ladies cannot conceive but then I did but had a MC therefore maybe I'll be one of those who can't carry.... trying not to go down that road.

So...mustbemad I'm quite sure you're not the oldest :-). Ranchgirl and patch good luck with your tests, fingers crossed for you, and all the other ladies.

Have good weekends and here's hoping for good news for us all xxx

Hullo

I've been a lurker but thought it only polite to chip in with a hi.

We have an 18 month old son, took 9 months to conceive him - that makes it sound like we tried hard. Didn't ! I think we just ended up going on holiday at the right time, I got tipsy most lunchtimes, and voila!

Anyway I'm 40 now and we've rather secretly decided to have a go at number 2. This month is month 6 of ttc.

I'm a bit confused about when I ovulate - according to the sticks this month I ovulated day 10/11 but previous month more like day 16/17. Using Ovia which also had me ovulating earlier this month. I'm on a stock standard regular-as-clockwork 28-day cycle.

Weird! Anyway at CD 17 right now having dtd on the day I got the +ve ovulation result, and the day after. Been stinking sick with a foul cold since then so no chance of further shaggy shaggertime since then!

Lovely to read about all the positive tests recently, and I continue to be astounded by the bravery of you all...

So, yes, hullo! And any ideas about weird ovulation wotsamajigs would be ace.

(This is Olimoss - decided on a namechange!)

Found you! Hello again old birds. I have been away for yonks, so to recap....
Nottalotta ttc #1 cycle....god knows, about 20 months, shortcycles.

Had first fertility clinic appointment last week. Typically am now 3 days late. Will poas tomorrow if AF does not arrive. Oh and am 37.

Hi Raeside. It's nice to welcome you.
Waves to everyone else. I'm in my fertile window so as you can guess my weekend has been full of fun.(Big smile)

We both have the day off tomorrow going to spend a few hours DTD.
Good luck with POAS Notta.

Omfg!! Only get a BFP!!!!