TTC after a MC (I'm really rubbish at thread titles sorry)

[DoctorDonnaNoble]

The Rules...

(1) A lady may only POAS on a Friday.
(2) Friday means the day that everyone calls Friday in the time zone where you spent the night.
(3) Rule (1) does not apply to POA-OPK-S, UNLESS they are being illegitimately used as surrogate HCG detectors, in which case Rule (1) most definitely does apply
(4) Rule (1) does not apply following a BFP because if you want to waste £25 a day POADigiS that's your prerogative
(5) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady is POAS in an attempt to get a BFN to prove she can start DTD with intent
(6) Rule (1) does not apply if a lady wants for unknown reason to pee on an actual stick, like a twig or some such, if that lady is unexpectedly caught short whilst tramping in the forest looking for bears.
(7) These rules (including Rule (1)) are subject to the change at any time if the ladies of the Posifrickentivity thread decide on a whim come up with empirical evidence to prove that it is luckier to POAS on any other day of the week
(8) Violators of Rule (1) shall be subject to fish throwing.

And as a grand finale, why not pledge to NEVER POAS before 14DPO?

Welcome Phryn, hope you find some comfort here. It's truly truly shit, but these ladies have helped me through some tough times.

Hey Phryn welcome to the club no one wants to be in.

Am so sorry for your loss - lots of hugs. The ladies on this thread are wonderful and have been so supportive. We all know how you are feeling xx

Sorry for your loss Phryn, I hope you find some comfort and support from this thread. I've been on it far longer than I ever thought I'd be but, the ladies here have all been amazing. It is the one place you can vent and know that everyone knows exactly how you feel. Hopefully you won't be here long before graduating.
Try to take each day as it comes, allow yourself to cry, scream or shout. It will get easier everyday. Big hugs

Thanks ladies - much appreciated

I've spoken to a couple of acupuncturists today who specialise in fertility and women's health. My post pill - pre pregnancy cyles were a bit all over the place (ranging from 29 to 42 days). From reading about it it seems that it could be helpful to regulate my cycles, which at least would make me feel that I'm doing something to try and help my body conceive and stay upduffed. I've found acupuncture helpful before when I had a bad back injury.

Does anyone have any experience with acupuncture for fertility?

I'm currently having acupuncture- had three weekly appointments so far on CD10, 15 and 22, looking forward to this week's on Weds. My lady seems confident, is head of the Berkshire NCT Acupuncture unit, and has plenty of stories of ladies she's helped. I also have irregular, long cycles and suspect I don't ovulate frequently- last cycle was 41 days, the one before 58 days and I'm currently on CD27 with no ovulation yet, so I'm hopeful that acupuncture will eventually help sort this.

Metalhead, SunbathingCat I'm also wondering about how long the GP wants us to try for before begging for help- can't hurt to attack this TTC lark from as many fronts as possible, right?

Hi all. I am a previous thread member. I have had a quick scan back and am sorry to see some familiar names and so many new ones. I hope this post doesn't seem insensitive. I was here for about 8 months after mc#2, got a bfp in June and pleased to say all is going well. 14 weeks today. Not sure I will ever relax and enjoy this pg but fingers crossed.

So stashed in my bathroom cupboard I have around a dozen ic opks, a superdrug pg test, some Zita West vitafem (less than a months worth) and almost a months supply of zita west vitamen. If anyone would like any of them please pm me. The vitamins were recommended by acupuncturist and are expensive so shame for them to go to waste.

Wishing you all good luck for the future x

Ooh yes please! Just about to PM...

Hey all, how's everyone's Monday gone? I went back to work today and it started off with a lecture from the Head about her not supporting staff absences this year as too much time was taken off last year (I was in and out of hospital for two months following my mmc). I almost lamped her. She then told me she's expecting me in front of the classroom as from now - I only had the mmc on Friday. Is it ok to tell your boss to go fuck herself or does that count as being unprofessional? Think I need a new job!
What's the acupuncture meant to do btw? I might well give it a bit of a whirl :)

Sunbathing and greysar unfortunately the way the NHS works means that every time you conceive it does reset the clock so to speak. So even though we've been ttc for over a year, it only counts as 6 months since the mc. As unfair as that seems, I guess it makes sense in a way as inability to conceive and miscarriage are slightly different issues (albeit with the same outcome - no baby).

Thankfully my GP is quite sympathetic, and I made it very clear to him that I know exactly when I ovulate and we've been timing sex perfectly for six months now with no joy. It can't hurt to go and speak to them, but be are they send you packing again if it's not been "long enough" since your mc.

Welcome phryn and sorry for you loss.

And great to hear from you Holly, I remember you and Am so pleased to hear all is going well!

Yes! I second that HollyBen! Fantastic news!

Ok, all the relevant reasons to cry and I choose crying because I couldn't remember having a birthday cake last.
Mainly because my last birthday I was miscarrying. Stupid girl.

Boozle that's horrendous. I cannot believe your boss spoke to you like that! I would be straight in to speak to her.

Hi Phryn, so sorry you have to be here x

Boozle - your Head sounds like a complete dragon. I guess there are a number of staff who take the piss sickness wise hence the clamping down in sickness issue. But to expect you to carry on like nothing has happened is dreadful. I once worked for a head like that, she had no kids herself, didn't get families at all. Everyone was expected to work the hours she did, she wasn't very popular!!

I'll gladly tell you head where to go if you like!!

Boozle - your head is a complete bitch! Definitely tell her to go fuck herself!

Hollyben - I'm so happy to see your news!! It's so reassuring see grads come back with happy news!

Treacle, sorry you've had a crap day.

Grey - where do you go for your acupuncture. I'm in Berkshire too and have been thinking about giving it a go.

Another one that's doing acupuncture here. Not sure how I feel about it but worth a shit - and I did get pregnant I guess. Just couldn't keep it! She also says you need to let your body recover before trying again and shouldn't try after a MC bit easier said than done.

boozle - I'm not a teacher but that doesn't sound fair to me. How can she not support it?! What does that even mean? You have a sick note, she can not support it all you like!

So I am still bleeding and POAS. Line is getting darker, not fainter. Now concerned about ectopic pregnancy. Does anyone have experience of that? Google says that could explain bleeding, positive test. I just feel off too... Not sure how to explain it. Hate all of this!

Boozle that's a terrible way to be treated, if you're deemed ill enough to be off work by a doctor then that's the end of it. I'm sorry you're having to contend with that attitude, I'd look for another job if you can. Even knowing you're in the right doesn't make facing people like that any easier.

Treacle I'm sorry you've had a bad day. Hopefully tomorrow will be kinder, it's easier to tackle each day on their own.

AFM - another day, another BFN and no AF. I have no idea how many dpo I am but 2 weeks ago today was the last time we DTD. Our DS had an operation and DTD wasn't really at the front of my mind after then. So, if it was successful then I guess I'd know by Wednesday at the latest, my OPK showed a solid smiley on the Sunday so that's supposed to be for 2 days. I think 14dpo is tomorrow and I've had the usual pmt symptoms for days. Definitely not pregnancy symptoms, from my previous experience.

Urgh I'm so sick of WTF.

Welcome Phryn, everyone on here is very supportive here you're in good hands. My m/c was august at 6-8 weeks too, it sucks.

Thanks everyone. I'm being pathetic and I know it so you're all too kind!

Dulcet have you been in touch with the doctors? Sorry I can't remember. I'm not really knowledgeable about ectopic but if you're concerned I'd get it checked out.
So sorry you're going through this.

Blink I hope you're pleasantly surprised and af doesn't arrive :)

I just realised that I've missed out on a may baby. My birthday is may so was really looking forward to that. Even if I conceived this cycle my due date would be June 6th (ish).

Dulcet I think if you're concerned then you need to go to A&E, they can scan you now to put your mind at rest. I'm not experienced with ectopic pregnancy but when I was pregnant with my DS the midwife more concerned with pain than bleeding as an indicator of ectopic. I'm sure she was always asking my about pain in my side and pain in my shoulder - she said a stabbing pain would be indicative of ectopic. But I don't really know anything at all, I hope your mind is put at rest soon but I'm sure that bleeding without intense pain doesn't always mean what we fear. I'm sorry you're worrying, this might be making you feel a bit off it.

Treacle thank you :) me too but I'm not hopeful because my boobs don't hurt and they have always been my main symptom. I gave myself false hope yesterday as I felt sick last night so I thought there would be a line this morning, that's the only reason I tested. But no, stark white. I even put my phone torch behind it to see if there was a feint line I'd missed. I'm sorry you've missed your May baby, my birthday is also May and that would be lovely to have a baby who shared my birthday month. My mum's birthday is the month before mine, it's nice to celebrate separately but we always do something in the middle to celebrate both. Even though you won't share the month they could still be close together by a few months, it such a hard time.

Does anyone know anything about Thyroid issues? I've heard that pregnancy can create issues with your thyroid, just yesterday I was annoyed at the fact my nails and hair are very brittle. I googled (I know) and it suggested that this was a symptom of an under active thyroid along with other symptoms which I know I have - the main one being feelings of being very low and down which I've suffered with regularly since my DS was born nearly 2 years ago. I'm wondering if this might make mc more likely or if it makes ttc difficult? I also have drier skin than I ever used to have.

I'm not sure if I'm just imagining the symptoms I have because I want an answer as to why I don't have a baby. I know I should ask the DR but I'm sure they'll think I'm neurotic.

Thanks ladies. I have spoken to doctor this afternoon treacle, she didn't mention ectopic. She said to test Friday and see what's happening then. I asked for blood tests and she said we could do that. Will see if I can get that done this week. I don't really have much pain blink, just cramps and nothing in my shoulder. I had read that on Dr Google too so hopefully that's a good sign. It's just the not knowing what's going on, makes you think all sorts!

Don't know anything about thyroids and TTC blink but I think the tests to see if there is a problem is a simple blood test so could be easy to tell if it was something you suffered from. Hopefully your GP would support that? Not neurotic to want to know what's wrong with you!

A June baby would be wonderful too treacle, and you could have separate and joint celebrations then! Sorry you have missed it this time round though.