Anyone got pregnant with no.1 very quickly bit struggling with no.2?

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Hello,

Was just wondering whether anybody has had a similar experience?

When trying for first child got pregnant the first month, however that ended in MC. Luckily I got pregnant again with DD after first month of trying again.

DD is now three, we would have started TTC sooner but I went back I Uni and I'm due to finish in November.

We have been trying for 5 months and no luck, worried that I've left it too late as I'm now 37.

Hazel I'm the same. I count second 'peak' day (using cbfm and cb ovulation sticks) as ovulation day. For me that ties in with ovulation cramps too. I'm 8dpo and desperate to poas but know it's a waste! I would normally start spotting 9dpo and get AF 1-2 days after (short luteal phase here). Had really awful cramps/bloating yesterday. Then nothing today (except lots of cm which has been there for past few days). Weird!

Far - exciting about IVF. Is it costing lots?! Think we might start saving next year just in case...

Ginger hope you're feeling better after a lush sofa day. I'm at home today because DS is ill and got dreaded call from nursery to pick him up. He's napped since we got home (2.5 hours!!) so seems a bit pointless but at least he's in his own cot I guess!

BTW Have you guys seen the trial on here for 'The Stork'? Looks interesting! Have signed up as thought got nothing to loose!

No Trees - what's the Stork trial? Sounds intriguing. Can you post a link?

Can I join in? DS was conceived in the first month of properly trying but #2 proving more elusive. DS is already three so we're starting at a 4-year age gap minimum which I'm OK with (we'd aimed for 3 and a bit due to financial/work reasons), but it's starting to get me down a bit.

Taking a break from TTC for a couple of months after this one for logistical reasons. AF due on Saturday so I'm on eggshells. Just feeling a bit defeated, which is quite silly because I know plenty of people who took longer to conceive their first child, let alone their second.

Hm, you know, I think the soy has really done something. Just checked and apparently I have been ovulating really late in the past few months - got my ov+ on cd18-19. This month I got it on cd16 - I see a lot of women have mentioned this as a side effect.

Hi Jassy, welcome! How long have you been trying?

Mister Congratulations that is great news!

Well AF arrived for me on Monday although there was a bit more spotting on Sunday evening but I think Monday is officially CD1. I took 120mg of Soy last night on CD2.

I've had a very depressing couple of days, its been awful really I've just not handled it very well. I kept bursting in to tears when I was on my own then I'd wind myself up getting so angry at why it happens so easily for everyone else I know and not me! I know people are going through far worse. I just don't understand why in 21 months I have not managed to get pregnant. I've barely spoke to OH, he knows something is wrong but how can I tell him how bad I've been feeling when I get told I'm obsessed with TTC! Anyway I'm actually feeling tons better today.

I only test with OPK's until I get my positive, I've never thought of testing again the next day but I might do now if I can use the cheap stick one's instead of the CB one's. I use Fertility Friend app to chart everything including my temperature and FF works out when I've ov'd. However like you Ginger I wake at different times so it's not always that accurate. The last couple of cycles FF thinks I've ov'd 2 days after a +opk.

Farfall great news about the IVF.

Metal Sorry you're feeling disheartened, good idea to not put so much pressure on yourself.

Ginger Good for you getting an appointment, keep us posted how you get on. Hope you feel better soon.

Welcome Jassy It is hard not to let it get you down, I'm now looking at a 5 year gap now!

I'm hoping taking the Soy will help just need to get plenty of sperm up there which is usually the problem!! If I'm not allowed to talk about it how am I supposed to tell him when then right time is?! And I also have to warn him when we need to try, can't win!

Good luck to those on the 2ww wait.

Yep I saw that Trees, added all my details in too, hopefully we'll all be prime candidates as we are all clearly fertile with having one DC, but are currently under the category of 'unexplained infertility'! DH was a bit like wtf is that, but after I explained to him that it's got to be better than me taking a load of drugs and having a stranger faffing around down there, he shut up pretty quick! Glad you had an easy time with DS Trees hope he's feeling a bit better now.

Glad the soy seems to be working for you Hazle! I got a +ve this morning, cd15, usually get one cd17, although last month I got one on cd14, so not sure if it's the soy or just my confusing cycles. Getting pretty strong ov cramps today though.

Welcome Jessy nice to 'meet' you. I know a few people too who struggled to conceive a first baby, but no matter what number baby it is it doesn't make it any easier does it?! It just adds to the bafflement as to why it isn't happening!

Bobsy pleased you finally got an answer about your cycle, but sorry it ended in AF Glad you are feeling a bit better today, I think we all need a few days of just feeling sorry for ourselves and having a good ole cry. Hope you manage to sit and have a proper chat with DH ,and he sorts himself out!

I'm feeling rough again tonight, always feel worse of an evening though. Poor DH is shattered too, but going to need to find the energy from somewhere to DTD as I got a smiley face this morning.......it's getting pretty old this.

Little here is the link: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/mumsnet_product_tests/2219896-TTCing-and-no-luck-to-date-Trialists-needed-for-The-Stork-a-new-home-conception-aid

Worth a shot?!

Bobsy sorry that AF got you. The emotional roller coaster is so crap isn't it. Sometimes a good cry is what we need. Fx the Soy does good things this month.

I recently found a thread where I posted when I got pregnant with DS. I had been away that month and then we were both sick, so DTD just once that month. Once, and that was it. And now doing it like rabbits, and nothing. Not fair.

Just one more test this morning Little! Quite restrained I thought. Still a line, a bit stronger than yesterday. Am a bit worried though as I don't really have any symptoms other than slightly bigger boobs and the odd lower abdomen twinge. I can't really remember what it was like with DS at this stage though. Will wait it out until the weekend to do a CBD which might make it real. Sorry you are feeling AF coming, it's not over til she's here though.
farfalla how exciting about the IVF, all the best!
Hazle my OPKs say ovulation is 24 - 48 hours after a positive, but I usually temp so I use that to confirm. For me it's usually within 24 hours but perfectly possible to be 2 days later.
Ginger yes 14 months since AF returned after DS (though we started 'trying' a few months earlier), didn't really do anything different so I'm finding it hard to believe! DH was away for 3 days before ovulation (was the same when I got pregnant with DS actually) but we managed to dtd 3 times on the day, using preseed which I often forget to do. I was less careful with my diet and drank more alcohol than I have in the last months actually although I did quite well on low caffeine. I also did lots of positive thinking and deep breathing / relaxation at least once a day. Bit odd maybe but it seems to help me! Good luck for your appointment on Friday.
Metal sorry you are feeling down, fingers crossed it is not Ashermans. The fact that you do have periods still must be a good sign anyway. The no pressure approach sounds like a good idea but difficult to force yourself not to feel pressured!
Hope your ds is feeling better trees. I had to pick mine up from the childminder today as well, he had a fever of 40 degrees , GP says he has an ear infection and now have some antibiotics for him, poor thing.
Bobsy I'm sorry you are having such a tough time and that AF showed up. I really hope your DH sorts himself out soon, would he notice if you didn't make the effort at all for a month and take some responsibility? Fingers crossed the soy will do the trick for you anyway.

Thanks guys. Not (quite) yet 6 months yet - so not panic stations by any measure! But it just feels like life is on hold for a while.

AF arrived It's actually made me feel pretty bloody fantastic, I knew I wasn't pregnant (the pile of tests in the bin testify to that) So I was just worrying about what it could mean. But the bitch is back :) Right then I'm going to crack out the soy, dust of my shiny new CBFM and get this baby making show on the road.

Far how exciting about the IVF. Everyone I know who has had it (3 couples) all have babies so I calculate your sucess rate as 100%.

Woo hoo I got my hope back, funny how you don't realise how stressed you are about something until that worry goes away !

Welcome Jassy, hello everyone else feel free to kick me out the back door if my cheerfulness gets annoying :D Oooh and FX for everyone on the TWW

Ah Hazle it's just so shit isn't it. It doesn't make any sense! We'd barely even started trying when we conceived DD, hadn't given up caffeine or alcohol, and I was half a stone heavier than I am now. Maybe we should all try just DTD once in a month!
Mister I would say it is still far too early to be having any strong symptoms. Do one more test at the weekend, then stop!! I don't think I felt any of the nausea/tiredness etc until about 6 weeks with DD.
Did you mean to write you dtd 3 times in a day?! That's impressive!!

Feeling even worse today so am off work again, been awake since about 3am as I can't breathe properly! Managed to do the most functional un-romantic deed last night, but no smiley face on a CB this morning so I'm not sure if I even ovulated this month.

Yey loves! Nice to see you back to your cheery self! No kicking out the door from me, I could do with some of your positivity myself!
Glad AF finally arrived and you now know where you are up to. What days/dose are you going to take soy on?

I'm going for days 3-7, 120 for the first three days then 160 for the last two. Hope you feel better soon ginger Ah the unromantic functional deed - last time we did that we were in stitches by the end I think I even headbutted DH at one point, the things we do eh!

I'm glad to see you happy loves too - I'm not unfortunately as I'm definitely out again this month. I just don't know what else to do!!! There are sperm, there are apparently eggs - surely the daft buggers know what to do by now?! I was so sure this month. Grrrr.

Hi Jassy and welcome. Fingers crossed you won't still be here getting cross like me 9 months further in....

And mister - no symptoms is unfortunately right at this stage (which is why I kept peeing on sticks until about 7 weeks....). Then the tiredness will come. Fingers crossed for a really smooth ride from here on in.

Hello everyone else. Too cross to write any more. Will just lurk and try and absorb some of the positive energy bouncing out of loves this morning.... x

Oh no Little was hoping it was your month! Does that mean you have a short luteal phase too?

Loves loving your positive energy! Hopefully your body has reset ready for a good month!

loves I totally understand, at least you know and can start again. It's the most annoying think, waiting for AF that you know is coming, but that is wandering around somewhere, leisurely having coffee.

Oh little sorry your out here have a . Do you want to sit in the corner with me and silently judge other peoples outfit choices? It always cheers me up (I should add I have no fashion sense and am in no position whatsoever to judge....) Or you could play with this box of kittens I have under the table?

Feeling silly today :) Normal service will resume tomorrow I'm sure!

Silent and not so silent judging of other people's outfit choices is one of my favourite ways to cheer myself up loves! Thanks - I'll do that. I mean really, what were they thinking?!

I'll join in the outfit judging. 12 DPO here so going to buy some tests this afternoon (ran out after overtesting spree last month). Feeling quite pessimistic though.

Also feels slightly odd to be buying pregnancy tests with a three year old in tow.

Good luck jassy let us know how you get on.

What were they thinking indeed - check out the lady by the door in nude leggings with a camel toe

Mister No he wouldn't say a thing we could stop DTD for the next 6 months and he wouldn't even mention it I know he wouldn't! It's weird because he's made it clear he definitely wants another and gets annoyed if I mention giving up! I didn't get many symptoms until I was about 6 weeks gone when tiredness and nausea kicked in. I had sore boobs but to me at the time it just meant AF was on the way.

loves glad you're feeling cheery.

Little Sorry you're out again, it's shit isn't it!

Ginger I don't know what romantic DTD is, there's no romance involved with us just doing what needs to be done. Hope you're feeling better soon.

Well I have been feeling better until a got in to a conversation with my work colleague who has been for her 20 week scan today, how can I not feel so incredibly jealous , I'd been trying about 18 months when she told me she was pregnant, they'd only just started trying for #2.

I just feel like it won't happen for me now as it's been that long, if it's not happened in 21 months why would it happen now. I've started taking the Soy but I'm worried it won't work for me.

Caved...tested this morning 10dpo and BFN. What a surprise! Cross with myself for testing but had mega cramps 7dpo and no spotting so in my mental mind I'm pregnant!! Sigh...

Ah gutted sorry Trees, least you've had no spotting yet though which is a positive?

CD17 here and I guess I am 1dpo, time to let the symptom spotting stressing begin! Going to try and dtd again today, but not bother on sunday, which means I will have almost done SMEP, don't think we've ever managed it before! Also going to go to H&B today and stock up on Maca capsules, B50 complex and RLT in a bid to invoke sods law.

Oh Bobsy for you. Did you give anything away to your colleague about how long you've been trying?
It has to happen for you at some point, I know it seems like it never well, but I do think that eventually it will happen for all of us, it might take years though and we just have to keep our resolve strong until then. I hate the waiting, and the not knowing, if I just knew that yes I will have another baby, but it won't be for another 3 years yet then it wouldn't be so bad! Soy can take 2 or 3 or even more cycles to get going properly, so don't feel too disheartened if it doesn't work straight away. ( I might need to take my own advice soon!)

Jassy did you test this morning? I know what you mean about feeling odd about buying pg tests with a toddler in tow!

How you doing today Littles?

Ooh I love a good bit of outfit judging too! Certainly no fashionista myself, but come on, socks and sandals is not a cool retro look, you just look silly