Anyone got pregnant with no.1 very quickly bit struggling with no.2?

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Hello,

Was just wondering whether anybody has had a similar experience?

When trying for first child got pregnant the first month, however that ended in MC. Luckily I got pregnant again with DD after first month of trying again.

DD is now three, we would have started TTC sooner but I went back I Uni and I'm due to finish in November.

We have been trying for 5 months and no luck, worried that I've left it too late as I'm now 37.

Thanks Hazle and Trees that's what I thought but wanted to be sure as I'm panicking a bit about missing taking the soy on the days I wanted to take them.

Metal I still keep thinking that especially as it started at 9dpo & testing at 12dpo might be too early. I went in Superdrug & looked at the tests & came out without buying one thinking I'll just wait for AF, but it's annoying having that hope in the back of my mind. I think really I know AF will arrive.

Sounds great a relaxing week away & just what you need. Enjoy.

Ooh metal sounds idyllic, hope you have a fantastic time. Is the weather nice?
Hazle hope your evening is going ok and DS is sleeping well for you so you can have a bottle glass or two of vino!
Bobsy that all does sound a bit puzzling. I would agree with the others that you can't really call it day1 until full flow bleeding begins. Oh I so hope it is implantation bleeding, don't want to aid in getting your hopes up but wouldn't it be lovely if the soy gave us all BFPs this month!! So if you're 13dpo today, maybe try POAS again tomorrow at 14 or even monday if you can wait that long?!
loves hope you are ok today, and hope you enjoyed lunch with your neighbour! I saw an old colleague today, who was showing me photos of his new granddaughter, his grandson isn't even two yet. Had to smile and nod and show an interest
My Mum read an article about how losing a stone, even if you are already fit and healthy, can increase your chances of conceiving, so now thinks I should try to do that before spending £180 on a private appt. (If you believe the crap they write in the DM!!) I could definately do with losing some weight, but I can't shake the thought that I was half a stone heavier when I conceived DD so it shouldn't matter! Still, it wouldn't be a bad thing to try she says drinking g&t and eating crisps

Gingerbread - that's actually exactly what my consultant said to me when I was at the hospital the other week. I told her I weighed the same as when I got pregnant with DS, but she said it isn't possible to compare now that I'm a few years older. And again told me that losing some weight would be very likely to help. I'm maybe 3/4 stone overweight, maybe less. So it's not like I'm huge. Since the appointment, I'm down 2 pounds, and am going to keep going until I get down to ideal weight (by bmi). It can't hurt can it. I've been meaning to do it for a while but putting it off, figuring I could just wait until after baby number 2 then lose all the weight together. But I didn't count on still trying nearly a year and a half later.... My latest plan then is to lose this weight, buy lots of new clothes, convert the spare room that's just been empty the year we've lived in this house into an office/sewing room and stop putting everything off thinking I'll be pregnant any minute. Although saying that, I've somehow convinced myself it's worked this month (am only 7dpo), so have clearly set myself up for a massive fall next weekend when I'm surrounded by bfns....

Same here, not overweight but could lose a bit. I was thinking that oh, I'll just have the DC2 and then work on getting the body into the best shape ever. But as you say, maybe should stop putting it off.

thanks for asking, DS is sleeping happily, so is the rest of the household (2 dogs, 3 cats). I am indeed drinking wine. Would rather be pregnant and unable to drink, but oh well..

Ooh Little I love the sound of that plan. Very jealous at the prospect of a sewing room!! Good on you losing 2 pounds. I have been unhappy with my weight for as long as I can remember, but also figured I'd wait to have a baby first then lose the weight! I could definately do with losing 4 or 5 stone, but my bmi is just under 30, so deluded myself thought that maybe that is ok. I should just do it, if that has been the problem all this time, I will kick myself! I always turn to food as a comfort though, each month that it doesn't happen I turn to the cake and chocolate, and then that just kind of carries on the rest of the month. Must put my mind to it once and for all, if I'm willing to eat bloody soy tablets and have a dildo cam then I should be able to put my mind to losing a bit of weight!
Hazle enjoy the wine tonight, hopefully in no time at all you won't be allowed a drop! Glad you have a sleeping household, you must have your hands full with all of those tiny beings to look after!

Thanks Gingerbread I hope it is too, but I think really I'm just having an odd cycle although I can't help but build my hopes up so it's going to be even worse now when I do get the proper bleed. Why does my body have to do this to me. It is hard seeing others with their small age gaps! It would be great if the Soy did gives us all our BFP's.

I need to lose weight but its not easy. I know this might sound like an excuse but we're not slim in my family. From being very young I always remember my grandma hiding her tummy for photo's. My mum is big, she's got bigger as she's got older and my sister who is 3 years younger than me is bigger than me and hasn't had any children. We all seem to hold it in our tummies. I am bigger than I was before I got pg with DD. I do exercise 3-4 times per week, and I eat healthily during the week, low-fat food, fruit, salad, wholemeal pitta breads, lots of veggies with tea but I take the weekend treat too far sometimes. Chocolate is my downfall and I've had a bad week this week with being so stressed about AF - yeah silly excuse. I don't drink really, on the odd occasion I go out I have a drink but I rarely drink in the house unless we have people round. I think I need to get my mind set on losing weight and do it properly and limit these weekend treats!!

It's certainly not easy. I simply don't lose weight by counting calories - I think I messed up my metabolism by dieting as teenager (when I certainly didn't need it) and now the body just adjusts to the reduced calorie intake. To lose weight, I have to do something drastic - either a crazy diet like Dukan, or work out like a madman. I'm talking 2-3 hours per day, and I don't really have time or energy for that any more. I guess I could do a couple of weeks of Dukan again, works great, boring and restrictive as hell though.

In other news, I think the soy has done something. Remember I was complaining that my Persona monitor must be broken - it should give you green days when you're not fertile, red ones when you are, and also an ov symbol. For the past couple of months, it was giving me red days only, no ov symbol. But this month, I got the symbol on cd16, and it just went green today on cd20. So at least something is different.

I haven't got the time to do more exercise its harder enough fitting it in as it is but I do just about manage. Diet wise I don't know what to try other than just drastically reduce chocolate intake because I would say I'm other wise quite healthy. The problem with dieting as well is making different meals for OH & I haven't time for that!

It's good when you can see the soy making a difference. I know how pleased I was when I got a positive OPK on the cheap strip ones that had never worked for me before, at least I know I can use them next time & not have to fork out for the CB OPK's.

I think today is going to be first cycle day finally. Quite a lot more pink blood when I wiped this morning & it was darker so definitely getting nearer to AF & boobs don't feel as sore. It's better to be starting new cycle finally so nearer to start trying & potential pregnancy. Hopefully the Soy will work for us all!

Well, I'm feeling pleased with myself because I've just been for a nice morning run. Perfect weather and some lovely autumnal woodland to run through. Apart from that, I'm not really thinking about calories but have cut out all the crap (and I mean ALL). I'm a bit all or nothing with sugary stuff. Once I have one thing, all I want is more sugar. So I've had no cake, biscuits, chocolate (ok, there was one bar!) or crisps for nearly 2 weeks and it's definitely made a tiny difference. I'm not sure I'll keep on losing weight this way though, but if I'm not pregnant this month I'm going to do a month of the 5:2 diet (while I have my hsg, because I think you're not meant to ttc around having an hsg because of the xrays) and that should shake it up a bit. I found 5:2 amazing when I tried to shift the bulk of the baby weight, and it's dead easy because you just eat normal stuff 5 days, then pretty much nothing for the other 2! There are some weight watchers type ready meals that are only about 250 calories, so with some non creamy soup for lunch and an apple for breakfast I'm done. I couldn't be arsed with the faff of preparing special meals, but freezer to microwave I can manage. And it worked a treat. I asked the consultant whether dieting would itself be bad for ttc, but she said it wouldn't be as bad as being overweight. So that's the plan.

Sorry AF is messing you about so much Bobsy - that doesn't help the nerves does it? I got a massive positive on an IC strip this month too, which I think is why I'm feeling a bit more optimistic. And we definitely dtd before and after it, so together with the dieting, there's not a lot else I can do at the moment! I should make the most of this positivity before I realise I'm definitely not pregnant....

Good for you on the Sunday morning run Little. It's ages since I've been for a Sunday morning run. I used to run a lot but do work out video's now. Although on top of what I already do I'm going to start running again with a friend on a Thursday evening. It's a shame I don't get chance to go at the weekend during the day as I live in a lovely area for running. I'm an all or nothing person too, can't just have a bit of chocolate I have to go the whole hogg! Not too bothered about cakes or crisps it's just chocolate. I've not heard of 5:2 diet is it easy to follow?

Glad you're feeling more positive.

Well I thought today was the day (well there is still time) I'm really sick of it though, nothing on my pad all night then quite a bit of dark pink when I wiped this morning, then next visit to toilet just a bit of watery beige on pad and watery pink/beige when wipe (sorry if TMI). So then I'm back to thinking maybe I am pg!!! Grrrr! Please someone tell me to get a grip I am not pregnant, it's been the same every morning thinking finally AF, then back to thinking I could be pregnant, why is my body doing this to me. This is the 6th day now of this. I suppose I should just get a pregnancy test just to tell me I'm not so I stop driving myself mad every day. Are they fairly reliable at 14dpo? I don't want there to be much room for doubt, should I got a first response? Hardly ever POAS so don't know much about the best test to use.

I had this annoying spotting in the past few cycles as well, but never for 6 days. first response should definitely show BFP by now.

How frustrating Bobsy! Do you usually spot for a few days before AF or is this really unusual? Also are you sure you ov'd when you thought you did? I get really long cycles sometimes with about a week of spotting in the middle, tis very annoying. I think I would POAS to be sure if things don't start up properly today and if it is neg then that's another reason to go back to your GP, they should definitely check out 6 days of spotting more seriously. At 14 dpo the test is something like 99% reliable (though there are always the 1% who fall outside this but that's the case whenever you test!)

Loves I'm sorry about your BFN, I really thought this might be your month That said I still think the extra-long AF might be a good sign, so hopefully next cycle will be the one. I think everyone has messed up cycles sometimes, mine are all over the place all the time but in my case it is down to PCOS, however it is still perfectly possible to get pregnant with longer / shorter / irregular cycles. How has your weekend been? Any sign of AF?

Ooh Hazle good to hear that the soy had an impact, I will be using it next cycle if necessary. That is good going that this was your first night alone with DS. I think I first left him for a night when he was about 12 months but DH has been going away frequently for a few nights since he was about 3 months old (mostly work but some social too). I used to hate nights on my own pre-DS but now find them a real luxury (once DS is in bed anyway).

Metal sounds like a perfect week, enjoy! Are you from Germany? My DH is German so we are over there quite often.

Wow LittlePoot well done on the morning run! I keep meaning to get in to a proper exercise regime but it never happens, but have promised myself that if this cycle doesn't work out I will join the local pool and swim before work. I should do it regardless really but hate getting up in the mornings! We are cycle buddies this month, I am also on 8dpo today and have also convinced myself I am pregnant with no evidence whatsoever ! It's my earliest ovulation for a while, we managed to dtd 4 times on the day before and day of ovulation and it's the first cycle since tests confirmed that DH's swimmers are fine so I am feeling optimistic. Also I had cramping at 6dpo, then a temperature dip yesterday and a big spike today and in my imagination my boobs feel bigger. I know it is all completely in my head at this stage, even if I am pregnant there would be no definite symptoms yet, but I can't stop myself reading in to everything, I will be annoyed with myself next week if AF arrives but right now I don't care! It is made worse because I spent the day yesterday with my friend and her lovely snuggly 2 week old DS, ooh I love little babies! I was quite tempted to sneak him home with me while she was busy with her toddler but thankfully I'm not quite that far gone yet! It did bring home how exhausting the newborn phase can be with 2 (her older toddler is the same age as my DS), so I am trying to be thankful for the comparatively relaxing time of it we're having with DS at the moment. He will be at least 3 by the time number 2 comes along now so that should make the first few months a lot easier to adjust to for everyone.

bobsy I'd get a FRER and poas tomorrow, at 14dpo it should give you a pretty definitive answer.

Yes I'm German Mister, and my parents live near Frankfurt Hazle.

Well I've felt like death all day as I was very silly last night and had far, far too much to drink! Spent most of the day in bed trying to recover but still have a splitting headache... I usually don't get that drunk these days, but about once a year I get carried away.

Well BFN! Not even the hint of a line it's stupid because I was only testing to rule it out but I was still hoping. Well at least I know now & I can stop thinking there's a chance until AF properly arrives.

Oh rubbish. Sorry bobsy. But if you do want to find out about the 5:2 diet, it's dead easy. Five days of the week you eat normally, and two days (not next to each other) you only eat 500 calories. Its also called intermittent fasting. There's a load of science behind it, it even had its own horizon programme, and is also meant to help regulate your insulin levels. Like I said, using low calorie frozen ready meals and cartons of veg soup, it's dead easy to stick to. Especially because you can eat anything the other days. Obviously stuffing your face the other days won't help the weight loss, but you end up being less hungry on your normal days.

Sorry not read the whole thread, but - conceived my first without even trying, just lots of sex as my bf had just moved in, then when it came to conceiveing number 2 I found out I wasn't even ovulating. Luckily my doctor put me on clomid straight away (after one cycle of TTC - bonkers really but I wanted to go for it so didn't turn him down). Plus I lost some weight, I was a good 2 stone heavier than the last time I conceived. I cut down on carbs as I'd heard that can help. The first two cycles were no nos but I got lucky on number 3 and she's just turned one now. Good luck.

Sorry about the BFN bobsy, I hope your body stops messing you around soon.

Little now you mention it I think I have heard of that diet, once AF is over I think I will look at giving that a go. It does sound interesting.

Thanks Metal, hopefully This stupid spotting will stop & AF will arrive tomorrow.

I'm feeling really down again, it's not just about the BFN, I've been feeling stressed about all this spotting & thinking I'm pregnant then thinking I'm not & then back to thinking I am. Me & OH had a big row last week & he has basically said all I go on about is having another baby & we can't even go away without me going on about it, I'm obsessed & live my life around it. I just can't get through to him which is so frustrating. I am not allowed to mention it so he doesn't know what I've been going through & he doesn't know about the 2 negative tests. I'm already worrying about how I'm going to get him to DTD this next cycle!

Sorry for rambling I just needed to get it off my chest.

Bobsy sorry about your BFN . On the weight loss subject I found Slimming World good as you can still eat lots, just not refined sugar or fat! Haven't tried the 5:2 but friends swear by it. I'm currently trying to exercise more as it helps my stress and weight! Still got bit if DS weight to loose but bit sure I will if I get pg soon (wishful thinking). I'm 6dpo and started my crazy symptom spotting (which are all phantom). Sigh...hate this bit! Oh and DS is ill so up half the night coughing. Coffee required!!

Morning ladies, I always feel like I miss so much at the weekends but I'm a secret work MN'er try not to turn my computer on at the weekends ! Well still no AF here I think I might just skip a month altogether at this rate I'm frustrated right now as I feel like I'm missing out on TTC time if that makes any sense!?

Enjoy the holiday metal sounds lovely and relaxing. It's good to hear that soy is doing something for everyone too makes me feel quite positive about trying it!

Sorry your having a shit time of it bobsy we are in quite similar boats in way hanging around waiting for AF and trying not to get our hopes up! Though I think I am resigned to definitely not being PG at least for today!

I need to do better on the healthy eating front too, my vice is red wine which is bad for so many reasons but apart from this weekend (which me and DH agreed was for medicinal purposes to help me relax!) I have been quite good.

I'm about 5-6 dpo as well, let's symptom spot together trees!

Well, I don't know about you guys, but I'm symptom spotting all over the place. Setting myself up for another big fall I'm sure this weekend when af turns up as scheduled. Why do I do this to myself?!

I'm joining the symptom-spotting party, can't help myself even after 14 months of imagined symptoms!

Bobsy sorry about the BFN and also that you're still having such a difficult time with your DH, ttc is stressful enough without that lack of support and feeling like you have to hide it all from him. Can you find a good moment to talk to him calmly about how much stress it is causing you and how he could support you to counter that? I'm sure his support would reduce your stress and therefore also the amount of time you spend thinking / talking / obsessing over it which would make him happier too (although ttc can be all-consuming at the best of times).

Trees my DS was up coughing last night too and then up at 6 (didn't get the message about the clock change obviously), find it so hard to get through the day at work without a coffee fix but giving it up really seems to help regulate my cycles so trying to stay strong!

Ooo there are a few if us poas soon then! My AF is due Fri/Sat and I'm 7dpo. Symptoms so far have been cramps (not AF ones, more like sharp pains in one area) and slightly sore boobs. Oh and tonnes of ewcm. Not had this late in a cycle before and wondering if the ovulation sticks got it wrong and I'm actually ovulating now?! Or it's the maca doing weird things!

Had my day 21 bloods yest. The nurse commented that my day 5 bloods all said 'satisfactory'. Don't know whether to be relieved or frustrated as almost want something to be wrong so we can then fix it.

Bobsy and Loves - any update? Weird that AF is so late.

DS up coughing again last night. Tried him in the bed with us which just ended up being a massive game of jumping on mummy and daddy! Sigh...

Oh dear -we're with you on the coughing too-very snotty little boy here and he had his mmr booster yesterday too which I'm sure won't help. I've never been able to have him in bed with us, he just talks to us! Like constantly. I'm glad he can sleep independently but it'd be lovely to get a snuggle sometimes.

So, my symptoms (af due Saturday I think) are that a glass of prosecco tasted rank at the weekend and is normally my favourite thing. And that normally my boobs are killing me by now but this month there's hardly a squeak. Last month they started hurting at 1dpo! Which of course I also thought was a symptom. Then just to top it off, I woke up at about 4am needing to pee. I used to think that was a definite sign, as it was my first sign each of the other pregnancies before ds, but over the last year it seems to happen a few days before af some cycles so I resisted poas. I'm trying not to obsess about it, but clearly that's not going to happen! Am thinking Thursday for poas as I have an all morning meeting Thursday I don't really have to concentrate for so can be gutted without ruining a days work! So I just have to resist tomorrow morning. How about you mister - you're due the same time aren't you?