Anyone got pregnant with no.1 very quickly bit struggling with no.2?

[tattyteddy]

Hello,

Was just wondering whether anybody has had a similar experience?

When trying for first child got pregnant the first month, however that ended in MC. Luckily I got pregnant again with DD after first month of trying again.

DD is now three, we would have started TTC sooner but I went back I Uni and I'm due to finish in November.

We have been trying for 5 months and no luck, worried that I've left it too late as I'm now 37.

Oh, and babies....I just love them. DD is so much fun now at nearly 3 but I do miss the days when I could just get her dressed in whatever I wanted whenever I wanted, carry her around, not have a potential tantrum on my hands every time I want to leave the house/clean the dishes/sit on the sofa! I was shocked at how all consuming newborn babies are, but I just love how tiny and cute and helpless they are.
I had no indication I was pregnant with DD. We had only just started trying, and the day I was due AF we were going out that night, so I did a test that was negative, went out and proceeded to get horrifically drunk! 3 days later I still hadn't come on, and then got a +ve pg test. I had no symptoms at all, but then I guess I wasn't manically spotting them. Even the nausea didn't kick in until week 6 or 7.

Metal I suppose that's not too bad for the wait but hopefully it'll be sooner. He said we will DTD tonight but just because he has said it doesn't mean it will happen, he say's he's feeling better but we've had a very busy afternoon stripping walls and ceilings and I can imagine him using it as an excuse and saying he's tired. I'm convinced I'm actually ovulating now. I'd like to take a break but I just feel like I can't waist a month. You're right he's completely taking the piss!

Gingerbread that is funny about the tumbler. I actually use DD's potty that she doesn't use anymore. Not practical for me to do at work in my job. That holding you're wee in for 4 hours is awful, I'm sure I need to go more just because I know I can't and I have to plan having my last drink a wee for the 4 hour wait before the time I am going to test. I don't test again after my positive, it was last night about 9pm that I tested and I'm pretty much convinced I'm ovulating now. OH said we can try tonight but that doesn't actually mean that he won't be 'too tired' when it comes to it. I managed to get maca capsules but been hard work getting OH to take them! I didn't get any symptoms with DD until I was about 5 or 6 weeks gone when I started to feel nauseous.

I've been crying this evening pure frustration over whether or not we will DTD, I don't know what is wrong with me but I ended up getting so upset about it. I tried to subtly ask if we were going to try and it turned in to a row I guess I'm not good at being subtle. I can't believe I'm letting him make me feel this way, its awful and if I do get pregnant that will be the end of any DTD. I don't want to tonight because of how he has made me feel but I know it's vital if I want another baby and I do so much. I don't think I can bring myself to try again tomorrow, so if we do manage to DTD this cycle it'll just be the once.

ginger yes luckily he was at home, the effect lasted for a good hour.

bobsy your OH really doesn't have a clue, does he? That an egg has a very short life and the day you actually ovulate is in most cases already too late to DTD. You can't just postpone it a few days.

I have managed to catch a cold here, just in time for holidays - nothing serious, just a little dizzy and blocked nose. And I promised to teach a couple of extra fitness classes tomorrow and Tuesday (just a little hobby of mine). That will be fun, I sound like Janice from Friends.

Me too Hazel! Lying in bed at mo as got a 15 hour shift tomor! But...I feel pregnant?! Nauseous, headache, dizzy. I'm cd6 so obs not but DH did make me take (waste) a test!! I did have the flu jab on Fri so probably that!

Just in case anyone takes agnus castus don't take it with soy! Apparently it counteracts! So I'm sticking with the ac this cycle plus maca and will switch next cycle.

I'm bridesmaid dress shopping on Sat as bf is getting married next June. We found lovely but v expensive dresses. She's paid for then but then had a mild panic that I could be 8 months pregnant. What do I do?! She knows we're trying...

Bobsy I really hope DH gets his act together tonight! Slip him some maca?!

Had a bit of a melt down yesterday think its a mix of being tired & a lot going on as well as TTC.

Well I thought I was ovulating yesterday but my temperature hadn't rison this morning & still had a lot of EWCM today.

We did manage to DTD last night & hoping to tonight as well.

Typical the Maca didn't have that effect on my OH.

Well you havd been honest with her would there be a way of adjusting the dress nearer the time?

Evening ladies,
hurrah bobsy!! Fantastic news! Even better if you haven't actually ov'd yet but are leading up to it. Fingers crossed for you that you go again tonight! Hope you have felt a bit better today, make sure you take the time to have a good cry about all this crapness, but then pull yourself back together again with some wine and chocolate
trees and hazle sorry you're not feeling too good either, rubbish time of year! Probably just the flu jab like you say. Ooh bridesmaid dress shopping how exciting! I wish some of my friends would get married! Hopefully you're friend won't mind if you have to alter the dress or get a new one, she will be too happy for you that you will be having another baby!
Can I indulge in a bit of pointless symptom spotting? I have been getting sharp twinges in what feels like the right hand side of my womb since last night. Probably just muscle spasms from overdoing it at work yesterday, but combined with feeling like I need to wee all the time atm, and boobs feeling much sorer than usual I am now getting my hopes up. I mean one month it has to actually happen doesn't it?? 9DPO tomorrow, so should I bother testing?!

Bobsy! Glad you got a sesh in!! And like Ginger says, even better before ovulation!

Ooooo Ginger that sounds promising! They we're all my early pg symptoms! I'm a prolific tester so I'd be getting a FRER out tomor am! Big fx!!

Spoke to my friend re bridesmaid dress and we're going to order the size up so there is 'room' to alter. Hopefully I haven't jinxed it now .

Tomor I'm starting some new opks...the clue blue dual hormone ones! Be interesting to see if they correspond with the old ones. Awhile till ovulation for me though as normally cd17 ish.

Ginger - ooh - sounds exciting!!! Definitely test in the morning if you have an early one. You can blame me if it says nothing. I should warn you though that I've been convinced I was pregnant 3 or 4 times this year and yet still not, so I'm not the most reliable symptom spotter....

Well done on getting some with Mr Bobsy! Maybe try and get some general cuddling and niceness in when you can manage it - see if you can counteract some of the p*^ssed off-ness you're (justifiably) building up with him. I know I always struggle with my DH when we go from no contact all day to suddenly having to do stuff at night. Even if we do 'do it by the stick', at least some pretence of seduction or romance would be nice occasionally....

It's that time of year trees and hazle, I've had a runny nose all day too! Hope you both feel better tomorrow.

Hurrah for some action bobsy, keep it up tonight if you can!

ginger I think you should poas tomorrow, you know you want to! I think I will do too - not because I've got any promising symptoms, but because I'll be 11dpo and running out of patience...

On the one hand, most people only get a BFP first 12-13 DPO. But then again, no harm in wasting a cheapo stick, is there..And if it's negative then it was simply too early to test.

I'm feeling much better today Gingerbread It's probably a relief too and I'm feeling quite positive about this cycle. I'm feeling excited for you too those symptoms sounds promising. Have you had those sharp twinges before? Yeh you're right its got to happen. My fingers are well and truly crossed for you. I don't test I've always just waited for AF don't trust tests too early but everyone is different.

I'm not going to symptom spot this cycle I am going to try and forget till AF due (yeh right I won't be able to help myself!).

TreesandBees Glad you sorted out the Bridesmaid dress must be a relief. I didn't like the one's with dual hormone indicator purely because you get days of flashing faces before you get your peak, but that was just my experience with them.

LittlePoot you're right we need to do a bit more cuddling even with out the DTD, especially as this TTC has made me so emotional, I can cry at the slightest thing at any point in my cycle.

Good look with the POAS Metal and Gingerbread keep us posted.

Ooooh ginger fingers crossed for you like you said it has to happen some time.

You have reminded me where I am in my cycle (because we have always been in sync!!) but I don't know whats going on this month no symptoms at all but I had that weird 10 day AF so I don't know what to expect which means I havn't had the TWW stress this month, very nice!

Metal your test results are positive then if your super ovulating? Sorry for being ignorant about it all! FX for you too.

Bobsy grrrrrrr at your husband but well done for getting the deed done! It only needs one sperm to get there at the right time (In a perfect world!!)

Trees think ordering a bridesmaid dress is the perfect way to make sure you do get PG sod's law and all that, I'm planning a girlie holiday in Oct and hoping for the same effect!

Hope everyone is feeling better with their colds. I got hold of some soy ready to take next cycle I'm going for days 3-7 and it's 200g right?

ginger so??

loves it's max 200mg, but mostly it's recommended to start with 100. Some sources say to keep the same dose, but most people seem to build up - for example 80, 100, 120, 120, 160 or similar patterns. I have 35 mg pills so have been taking 105,105, 140,140 and will go for 175 tonight. Luckily no side effects so far.

My cold is really annoying, head full of snot. And leaving for holiday tomorrow. Which on the one hand is great, some sun and sea should be good, but dreading the flight - I could already feel the pressure in my ears when driving over some hills this morning, and flying with blocked nose can be proper agony. Will go stock up on decongestants.

I hope you had more luck poas ginger, mine was as white as a white thing. Didn't really expect anything else, but there is always that tiny glimmer of hope just waiting to be dashed.

loves yes on paper my test results are great because it shows I'm ovulating fine but it just makes it even more frustrating that nothing's happening! and now I'm convinced there's something more serious wrong like blocked tubes for example.

Sorry about your cold hazle, I hope your nose improves for your flight tomorrow. But yay for a sunny holiday, hope you have an amazing time!

Well it was BFN for me too obviously. I am getting fed up of this. I wish I could just accept that it is never going to happen. I think after 17 cycles over 15 months, taking all the right pills and DTD at the right times with +ve OPK, it's safe to say that we are infertile. DD must have been a little miracle. Sorry you got a -ve too metal, I had my fingers crossed for you at 11dpo. At least now you know and won't build your hopes up before AF arrives? We could pretend it's too early to test, but I think deep down we know AF is on her way!
Hazle hope you feel better for your holiday. Where are you off to? Some sunshine will be lovely! And hopefully a holiday will be just what you need to get upduffed!
loves glad you are getting on board with the Soy too! I second what Hazle said about dosage, most tend to start low then build up to a max of 200g. I think I might take 120 for 3 days then 170 for the last two, over days 4-8 as I don't seem to have any problems ovulating, so it will be just to improve egg quality. Glad I can keep track of cycles for the two of us!! Have you been using opks this month?
Trees that sounds like a fab idea with the bridesmaid dress, hopefully it will be a squeeze for you to get into I'll be interested to hear what you think of the dual hormone ones, I have been meaning to buy some clear blue opks just so I can use them in the morning and then not worry about it for the rest of the day, but wondered if I should try the dual ones instead.
bobsy is it right that you can only use them every 48 hours? Glad you are feeling a bit more positive, did you manage to DTD last night too?
Well DD just walked over and gave me a spontaneous little kiss and is now sat sweetly playing barbies, so I guess I should count my blessings....

it can be too early to test for both of you.

We're off to Cyprus, just a week of hopefully nice sunny weather.

yes definitely could be too early to test and no ginger you can not safely say your are infertile, nope nope nope. I'm not a fan of 'well it happened to so and so stories' but here is one for you. My brother and his wife tried for 26months for their first, nothing wrong at all just what it was and now they have two little people (one brand new only 5 weeks old! :) ) It sucks a whole lot but it doesn't mean it won't happen. I hope you are not to down I know the BFN can really be a kick in the gut :(

Our OPK's didn't arrive in time and my cycle was too messed up but will be using them next cycle along with my shiny new CBFM and 'soyed' up to the eyeballs.

hazle happy holidays hope you have a relaxing time.

Metal it is still early for you to test too, sorry that your test results have got you worrying about other things are there more tests then to rule out blocked tubes and the like? I too lie in bed and worry about all the potential things that could be wrong ..........

Sorry you got a BFN too ginger but for you it really is still quite early to test. I on the other hand got a faint +ive at 12dpo last time so don't think there's any chance for me. I'll just be waiting for the inevitable temp drop tomorrow or Wednesday...

I've already googled cost of private tubal patency testing loves, although I should probably wait for my gynae appointment first and see what they say, maybe I can get it done on the NHS. However, if it looks like it's going to take ages I might have to bite the bullet and go private as I don't want to waste months and months waiting.

Cyprus is lovely, we went there on our honeymoon! In mid July it was really hot (almost 35 degrees I think), but hopefully at this time of year temperatures will be a bit more pleasant.

Loves I hope so , didn't manage to DTD last night as I didn't warn him that we had to grrr I can't win. He said he thought we were only DTD every other day but meant that before actual ovulation! So once we've managed this cycle, 3 times last cycle and no luck.

Metal could be too early, I've only every POAS once in all my time of trying, if AF was really late then I would and the test would be more reliable. You never know.

HazelNutt Cyprus great, enjoy.

Gingerbread I feel the same every time AF arrives. It is a bit early too test though, I wouldn't trust a test so early (although I did cave in once and test), I'm not trying to build your hopes up but all is not lost until AF arrives. I don't think you're infertile, I am sure you will get there very soon if not now. I wasn't aware of only using them every 48 hours, I used them every day. I thought they were supposed to tell you the 2 fertility days (flashing faces) and your peak days (non flashing face), but I had days of flashing faces before I reached my peak so was probably DTD when I wasn't even in the fertile window. I'm sure they'll be different for everyone. I have gone back to using the normal CB one. Bless her, I know I think the same thing when my DD comes over and gives me a hug and a kiss. No DTD last night because I didn't warn him we had to!

There's a thread about people who have struggled with TTC and years later got a BFP.

I'm a bit confused as my Fertility App doesn't think I've ovulated yet but if I got my smiley face on Friday night surely I must have by now. My temp only rised slightly this morning from 36.5 previous morning to 36.6 this morning. I'm worried now that we didn't DTD last night, I don't know if I'm still in with a chance tonight, quite doubtful I would think. I have been taking my temperature when I first wake up like they say but I've taken it twice since today and it's dropped back down slightly!

Ah thanks loves I like happy stories like that! I also like large age gap stories!! In a ridiculous way I think I would have preferred it to happen that way round though, take years to have one baby then manage to have another one no problem at all. At least you can get on with your non baby related life, and don't have the added pressure of a growing age gap. And the confusion that you can do it once but then not again. That sounds a bit like I'm wishing DD hadn't happened, but of course that isn't true, and I am so lucky that I have her and had the excitement of getting pregnant easily with her. I'm sure you all know what I mean. I am feeling just a bit crap today, I rang up to chase my gynae appointment and they said the waiting list has now gone up to 38 weeks, I have been waiting 24. Feels like it's never going to bloody arrive, so I just feel very frustrated by it all today.
Bobsy sorry you didn't manage to go again last night, give DH the warning now though that you will be DTD tonight! Crack open a bottle of wine, turn off the tv, and give yourselves another chance tonight. I saw that thread too, lovely to read happy stories. What is supposed to happen with temp to confirm ov? I gave up temping ages ago as I always need to get up in the night to wee at random times so disrupt my sleep!
What do you mean by private tubal patency testing metal? Is that just the HSG/HSC?

Hmm bobsy it does sound like you might not have ovulated yet if your temp only rose by 0.1C, I think the minimum is considered 0.2C. Though maybe you just have a slow rise? Can you check back and see what happened last month? I seem to get a fallback rise where I get one high temp at 1dpo, then it goes down again at 2dpo and then up at 3dpo and stays up.

I know exactly what you mean ginger I also think that if it had taken longer to conceive DD then I wouldn't panic so much now about why it's not happening. Yes I looked into private HSG or Hycosy, which is basically the same, only one is done with ultrasound and the other with x-ray. It's £350 where I am. I don't think I could wait as long as you have for your appointment, but then I'm a bit older than you so biologically speaking time is ticking a bit faster for me!

I know what you mean as well. With DS, I was totally expecting all this - trying for months, then tests, treatments, IVF etc, as so many friends of mine were struggling. But as it worked so quickly then, I was also expecting it to happen immediately this time. Bit of a shock that it did not.

Gingerbread I'm sorry you're feeling so down its awful that feeling that yet again it hasn't worked when you've been trying for so long. I hope you're laughing about this in a couple of days with a BFP. Sorry the wait is so long as well but I'm sure you won't need that waiting list. I'm the same actually keep getting up in the night to wee so I probably don't have a solid 3 hour sleep & my temp gets taken at various time that I wake, my fertility app doesn't always think what I put in is accurate anyway. The book I have called 'Trying to get pregnant (and succeeding)' which is about using positive thinking techniques go get pregnant, that has some very interesting stories in it, the author told her story of how she was told she wouldn't be able to have children & she refused to believe & did go on to conceive a healthy baby.

Metal I checked previous month & the same thing happened up by 0.1 the day after ovulation, plus my temperatures aren't that accurate with getting up in the night to wee & taking temp at different times.

Sorry-this will be long. I had my appointment with the hospital today. A bit shit really, to tell the truth. She referred me for an ultrasound and also an hsg scan-the one with the dye and xray. But basically, it seems that no matter what the result, there's nothing they can do. She said that my emergency cs is unlikely to have caused any lasting damage, and if it has then it's more likely to be tube blockage than womb scars. The ultrasound would pick up major problems and the dye thing would check for tube blockage. All good so far. But then if there is blockage, there's no possible treatment. So all it would tell me is that I definitely can't get pregnant. And if polyps or cysts are found on the ultrasound then there might be treatment to remove them but might not. And either way, it might not have any effect on my fertility. DH's sperm have worse than normal morphology but apparently not by much so isn't helping but there are still millions of good ones. And my blood tests show I'm not menopausal and am definitely ovulating. So, we have eggs and sperm and there's no treatment for problems they might or might not find on the scans. The advice is then essentially to just keep trying or to go for ivf. The success rate of which at 40 (which I nearly am) drops off a cliff to about 10% and costs at least £5k a shot. What she did advise is to lose my extra weight (I'm about half a stone over normal bmi limit), keep up with healthy lifestyle (no smoking, not much drinking and plenty of exercise) and cut down on all stress. Stress and age are the major factors against me, apparently. And they can't treat those. She was very nice but that was that. We can't afford ivf and I'm not sure I'd want to go that way anyway. Which doesn't leave us many options.