The Elderberry Pavlovas are tooling up and making plans to bust out of this joint! Evacuation by helicopter by end of September, no berry left behind!

[barkingtreefrog]

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+ months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and definitely no mention of baby dust or baby dancing).
Those not abiding by the rules may be escorted from the premises.

Bless you lumen I may just about keep my sanity thanks to you lot.
I'm so sorry for you, wish to god you'd got a happier result.

Timescales will also vary widely kitten. The 18 weeks is the maximum time you should wait to see someone, but that could be the nurse, then another

They do offer counselling barking but I think I am ok. I think I knew it hadn't worked although I hoped it had so I am just processing it. We have a review appointment booked for 4 weeks time and can start our next IVF cycle on my third bleed which should get me cycling sept/oct/nov, slightly late for the September group bust out to the chopper but not far behind. At least we can now book a holiday for our time off in sept

So sorry to hear that things didn't work out this time lumen. . Take some time to take care of yourself and your DP.

Did you have frosties or are you doing a fresh cycle lumen? I keep getting mixed up between the ivfers.

Glad you have a review appointment booked in Lumen and that you are at least able to make some holiday plans. We certainly put our lives on hold for all this TTC nonsense.

Kitten, what Barking said was correct. I was given those options along with Wythenshawe which is where I went for my initial tests (physical, day 21 bloods repeat, ultrasound and Hycosy). Once all these were done I was referred straight to IVF due to me fast approaching 40. As you're younger, you'll probably be offered a few rounds of clomid first. If you do end up being referred for IVF, it will be at St Mary's. I chose Wythenshawe because it was closer to home and work. Hope you get a speedy appointment!

Oh, and with waiting for the rmc appointment, then waiting for tests, then waiting for test results I don't think we'll have started our IUI by September!! We'll have a follow up breakout of our own .

lumen I'm so sorry it didn't work out, big hugs and sympathy.

I've been for my group NHS IVF briefing, I wasn't told anything I didn't already know or find out from the berries . They seem to do a more extensive post-transfer review than the private clinic; oestrogen, progesterone, aspirin and heparin after ET, then a progesterone test 1 week after ET.

I'd say I'll probably be doing a cycle mid Sept as they do a dummy transfer one month, between days 6 and 13, then the IVF the one after. Looking at my cycle dates, although I could do the dummy run next cycle, unless my cycles lengthens or shortens this month, I would be due to ovulate just around the Aug bank holiday weekend, which is the only time I'm going away all summer.... typical annoying timing. I don't image they would push me back any further as there is only 1 more month until I'm too old [sob]. The funding inconsistencies were highlighted as the hospital intakes from 3 London boroughs and the one I live in only offer a maximum of 2 cycles and don't pay to freeze any embryos, whilst the other 2 boroughs pay for three cycles and freezing. Not relevant to me doing a natural cycle, but what a postcode lottery?

Hello everyone else!

We didn't have any frosties barking so it is likely to be long protocol again starting sept and finishing nov. Takes about 8 weeks. Am up for a later chopper Off out for dinner now with dh and some of his work mates, they are all about 10 yrs younger than us and not thinking about ttc yet so should be a nice distraction.

Oh lumen am so gutted for you. How come you have to wait for your third bleed? How annoying! On phone on train so can't post properly. Hi to everyone else.

Sorry lumen

kuma the postcode lottery is disgusting. It really needs to be sorted - totally unfair the way it is right now. Sounds like you have a bit of a plan in place and September gives your cycle time to sort itself out from the last round, no? Anyway, I have everything crossed for you for the next round. If you're at all interested in me giving you the details for my acupuncturist, send me a pm. She is a miracle worker.

lumen hope you're ok and that you have a nice dinner with dh and friends tonight.

I'm ok funky and rain - thanks for asking. Kind of swinging between abject terror that something terrible is going to happen and getting my head around it all. Still doesn't feel real in lots of ways.

chloe sending you great big Berrie fx for tomorrow/Friday.

Hope everyone else is ok. Anyone heard from nolly? Wondering whether the package I sent her arrived safely!

I'm sorry lumen. Has AF started yet?

lumen hope you're doing ok, and your meal out proves a good distraction. Sounds like you have a plan for the next step. Are you unexplained?

kuma the post code lotttery is terrible. In this part of the world, there is only one funded cycle available, and if you have unexplained infertility (as I do) you have to be ttc for 3 years before being referred to IVF, which seems totally unreasonable.

feather glad to hear you are getting on ok. When is your next scan?

kitten it is definitely good to get things underway. I think I first went to my GP last September and I only had my first appointment at the FC in January. The clinics here are very over subscribed though, so there is quite a long wait for a slot.

funky good to hear from you. I hear you on the being fed up and feeling like there is no way out. Don't despair though, you do have a plan and you can get pg, so there is hope, even if it doesn't feel like it.

hb hope you're doing ok. The social minefield of not having children can be a nightmare to navigate. People don't seem to realise how rude their questioning can be.

chloe will be thinking of you and keeping everything crossed for tomorrow.

barking good news on the referral.

Does anyone else have ttc shopaholic tendencies? I think I am becoming addicted to spending money on ttc. Have just purchased some essential oils (recommended for massage by Lucy at Catching Rainbows) and a mindfulness book, IC pg tests, and some more supplements. Add that to the spending on acupuncture, books, OHs supplements, OPKs etc. and it is all getting quite expensive.

Thanks for all the good luck wishes ladies.

tiger I've developed FTTC (fuckTTC) shopaholic tendencies. I've just bought 2 dresses, one bodycon, one shockingly short, for this weekend's hen, which I will never get any more wear out of if I get updiffed. Surely that's enough to temp fate and get me preggers!

ha chloe lets hope so!! My FTTC spending has been on holidays and weekends away mainly! Also seem to be spending a lot on random stuff to keep me busy - making jam, roman blinds, cushions, and finally getting round to framing holiday pics from the last 5 years etc etc.

You are a very supportive bunch of berries. Had a lovely evening out, nice not to be thinking about ttc. tiger yes we are unexplained. Am interested if the FC will shed any further light as a result of this cycle.

rp no sign of AF as yet. Wish she would just show up and get on with it.

Hope all works this time for you chloe. I think my three bleed wait is due to having spent the last 8 weeks on meds, body needs a break and to get back to natural cycle.

Night all x

N,night lumen glad you had a lovely time out.

Those Socially awkward child questions are the worst but I think we probably imagine people's reactions to be worse than they really are because we are so hyper aware of ttc we think it must also be the at the forefront of every one else's minds too, when actually they're probably thinking of what to have for tea or how tight their shoes are or some other inconsequential bollocks! Dh has just said to 'just fucking tell them' when people ask about children, maybe in our dreams ladies, I think we're all too polite for that!

Watched the bbc4 doc on lance Armstrong- really interesting, a very manipulative man. You bikers will love it.

We spent an enormous futtc amount of money on a Caribbean holiday last year and it was worth every sun&rum soaked penny!! Love the tight dresses, yup you will def fall pg , make sure you buy a 2 litre bottle of gin and some sky high heels to be really sure

tiger oh yes, I've bulk bought so many home tests, pregnacare supplements (when on offer, I'm not MADE of money!), and yes - gin, bushy! supping an elderflower gin spritz now whilst doubled up with cramps and total case of football boredom....

Just nipping in quickly as it's late and I haven't even had time to watch the Tour highlights tonight (although I already know the news ).

I wanted to come in and post because I have some good news to share for a change . After the blood test on Monday showed the mc was incomplete the spotting stopped so I was really worried it wasn't going to finish naturally and after all this time only three weeks but feels like a lifetime I'd have to go for the op anyway.

So, following the advice of a wise berry on here can't remember who, sorry and the chasing rainbows lady who suggested the same, I bought some raspberry leaf tea on the way home tonight. I don't know if it was the mountain biking, or the sip of tea, but before I'd even drunk the nasty stuff I was bleeding! . Had some clotty stuff in the shower as well, so feeling much more positive that my levels will be down to 0 by next Tuesday .

Great news barking, doesn't that tea help your uterus contract? Fx all done with by Tuesday for you.

Morning Berries. I'm back! Finally got home from Italy (with the addition of a few grey hairs!) and in to bed at 4.30 this morning. Was awake at 8:30am though - thank God it's strike day today!
Hope everyone is ok. Lumen still thinking of you. Barking glad things seem to be getting sorted with you.
Cd25 here and I really need AF not to show up today if I've to have any hope of starting IVF early September. So if everyone could say a little Berry prayer for me I'd be très grateful
Gorgeous looking day here. Seen as I'm not getting paid I refuse to do any schoolwork so I think I'll just getting a few weddingy things done then snooze in the garden. Have a good day all.

A snooze in the garden sounds lovely happy. I could just do with closing my eyes for a few minutes on the sun. Zzzz. Hope af doesn't show up for you just yet.

barking it was me that suggested the raspberry leaf tea. I've been drinking it as directed by Lucy at catching rainbows to alleviate period pain and it seemed to have worked for me this month as I was nowhere near as bad. It does make the uterus contract lumen and overdue ladies drink it to bring on labour - it worked for my sister!

Roll on home time, think we're going to go fruit picking tonight so I can make jam tomorrow!

Hope everyone else is ok!

happy glad your Italy trip was fab! Sending you Berrie prayers for af holding out.

barking great news. Hoping it's all done in time for Tuesday.

tiger I've always wanted to go to a pyo! How fab. Mmm jam. In answer to your earlier q, next nhs scan is 29th July. Going for a private one next week as part of the harmony test as I'm such a panicker.

Hope everyone else is well. lumen thinking of you. chloe sending you vibes for tomorrow. Got everything crossed for you.

Best of luck tomorrow chloe, I have everything crossed for you