The Elderberry Pavlovas are tooling up and making plans to bust out of this joint! Evacuation by helicopter by end of September, no berry left behind!

[barkingtreefrog]

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+ months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and definitely no mention of baby dust or baby dancing).
Those not abiding by the rules may be escorted from the premises.

tiger it def sounds like you deserve something lovely to look forward to, a really happy and indulgent milestone, so you should book book book :)

Also, this book you and barking refer to sounds very hardcore, I'm starting to realise I need to up my organic mung bean game!

Book holidays, we all should! The great berry escape . Another cookbook you might all be interested in is called The Art of Eating Well by Jasmine and Melissa Hemsley - they were on Saturday kitchen last week, I got a copy, lovely food, similar to HH but includes meat.

You lot are very impressive with your healthy eating. I am mostly living on Heinz Spaghetti Hoops at the moment as it is the only thing I can keep down.

Just to say thanks all for the hand-holding yesterday I am still crampy and not 100% but feeling better.

Bless you RP, if it works it works x

Went for my scan today and it was good news I think but now I'm more confused than ever as to what the issue is. The sonographer said he couldn't see cysts, yay! I was surprised by the fact that I was scheduled to have an internal as well as a usual ultrasound (letter didn't mention internal scan). Boy howdy was I surprised.
Had the choice of going ahead or waiting and rescheduling with a female operator later on instead. But I just went for it, and he had to deal with leaning on stubbly legs. I guess I should just get used to awkwardness aye?

Stubbly legs are a hazard of the job for a sonographer. I resolutely refuse to shave The Wazinga and anyone who decides to go into gynaecology, midwifery etc takes the risk of seeing its hairy glory!

haha kitten that'll be your first dildocam experience! Not sure who christened it that, but generally that's what everyone calls it on here and with good reason!

Yep, definitely need to get used to the awkwardness! Presumably at some point they'll also refer you for a hsg to check your tubes. That also involves several healthcare professionals rummaging around down there. I think the worst was when they told me, just before my laparoscopy, that they would be sticking something for the pain relief where the sun don't shine. Thank good I was under GA, thats all I can say.

Don't be fooled by my healthy eating. It hides a chocolate habit! I have also just baked a gluten free lemon and poppy seed loaf, as I am practicing for the local food festival as I have agreed to donate some gluten free goodies. Once af arrives this month I'm getting back on the health kick bandwagon properly, think I'll do a bit of a detox and get back to yoga, which I haven't done since my laparoscopy. Before that I was going 2-3 times a week, but have completely gotten out of the habit.

rp it sounds as though everything you are experiencing can be classified as normal - it's just that no one ever talks about it! Hope you're feeling better.

How is everyone else today? I feel drained after a boooooring day at work.

RP mine's not so shabby at the mo following my MOT on Friday, but I get the feeling I will very soon be of the CBA brigade.
Hope you're feeling okay btw love.

Dear GOD, tiger - several people? Staring up me foof? All at once? Eek! Hahahaaaa dear lord I am most thankful today for you ladies, lube, and chips. The order is interchangeable.
That loaf cake sounds amazing, yummo.

Sounds like you have a good plan rain especially as you have age on your side.

gillster Yep it's amazing how much difference there is between each clinic. I spoke to my doc today about the 5DT. He says they wait until then in 90% of cases as it allows them to make the most informed choice as to which embryo is most likely to lead to a successful pregnancy. They only implant earlier for low responders who don't have many eggs. The clinic's view is that it makes no difference whether the embie is in you or not - it will divide or stop growing either way. I have often read though that some clinics consider the embie is better off back in the uterus, like you said. I guess it's not an exact science and unfortunately it's not possible to prove either theory. To be honest I am crapping it that we will have no embies left by Saturday.

Glad you're on the mend rp and I agree that is an occupational hazard of being a gynae!

That's good news from your appt kitten, you'll get used to dropping your knickers in no time. As my EC and ET both fell at the weekend and my doc was away for one of my US appts, I will soon have flashed my bits at most of the male doctors in the clinic. One more to go and I'll have the full set. What do they do in an internal scan BTW or am I better off not knowing?!

kuma Are you around? Hope you are ok, my fingers are crossed for you.

All went well at my scan today. Looks like I finally ovulated by myself (and the help of some gross Chinese medicine). ET is set for Saturday provided gillster is diligent with the pom poms! Please let me have some embies left by then. FX. Acupuncture lady was obviously delighted when I told her the news and said she could have got me preggers without the IVF! Grrrrr.

kitten get used to it, I had 9 dildocams in the space of two weeks when I started IUI......

Chloe what are the rules on DTD? Could you have the ultimate fufc?! (not that you'd know which worked!) Everything crossed for good news on Saturday.

Any news from kuma?

I'm having another down day. Seeing my mother didn't help. I'm managing to keep myself really busy though, don't know how I usually find time to work so many hours......

How are you doing HB?

Yay Chloe!

Barking how are you physically? (My iPad wants to call you "Barky" )

Bleeding seems to have stopped after 12 days, just spotting when I wipe today. No more cramps. Had a banging headache and sensitivity to light all afternoon that paracetamol, ibuprofen and loads of fluid didn't shift, but don't think that was mc related!
Just been hit by a list of hen do attendees and the large number who aren't doing 'go ape' because they're pg .

Can I have a moan?

Life feels like absolute shit. I'm depressed more then normal. I'd been on holidays so forgot to take vitamins and antidepressants so feel even worse. My roster at work has been suddenly changed. I'm in trouble at work for a Facebook post (complete accident). I'm tired, run down, exhausted, fat and teary. Everyone around me is pregnant. Three friends are due this month. All instadiffers. I'm sick of work, the compulsory overtime, the morons at work I see daily and the back stabbing bitch who got ne in trouble regarding Facebook.

Thanks.

Oh Seren, I am sorry to hear that. Vent away, this is the place for it. work stress on top of ttc is really difficult to deal with. You've been so strong so far though. Keep going, this will pass and things will get better.

Barking, sorry to hear you are also still feeling down. Again, like everyone else has said, it's totally understandable and good you have taken some time off. I wish it was easier for all of us.

Kitten, welcome. What is CBA?

Chloe, fingers crossed! I'll do a little dance for you too to support gill with the pom poms.

RP, good to hear you are feeling better. We are all willing you on.

seren is finding a different job an option? I never thought so but I'm now 5 weeks away from starting my new job and can't wait for the sensible working hours and reduction in pressure, not to mention getting away from my idiot boss. You spend most of your life at work, if it's unbearable life becomes unbearable.
The effects of suddenly stopping antidepressants will be making all this feel a whole lot worse right now, it will take a while for them to kick in again. The bump and baby shit is horrible but largely out of our control. The only thing we can do is make life in the meantime as good as it can possibly be .

Rosie CBA=can't be arsed? That's the assumption I made!

Sorry you're having such a time of it Serenity. Do you have time to fit in a nice walk or some exercise? Might be good to get the endorphins pumping whilst your anti-depressants kick in.

Like Barking said, it might be a good time to switch jobs if possible. What are the maternity rights like in Oz?

Was at another hospital yesterday having a freckle at the back of my eye checked out. I said to DH that it was weird being at a hospital and not having either some sort of blood test or some sort of implement shoved up me!

I'm still waving those pom poms Lumen like a mad woman. Hoping the embies behave until Saturday. Not sure I entirely agree with your doctor as know people on here and in RL who have had OK embies put back at day 3 and are now pregnant and others who had good day 5 embies put back and no pregnancy. Think a lot of it is just luck at the end if the day. Are you going to take baby aspirin when they pop them back?

serentity my love I'm sorry you are having such a crap time. What can you change to help you take control and feel happier? Is your DH supporting you? Hope you have a better day today x

Impressive acu results chloe!

lumen how's the cramping? Are you back at work?

barking good that the bleeding has slowed. Hopefully you are on the road to recovery. Are you off on holiday soon?

I'll also get my pom poms out and do a little dance! Cheering on all the embies and hopefully cheering up everyone else up too - I never would have made it as a cheerleader because I have no coordination!

Lol to the hairy wazinga rp! I am in the CBA camp now except for holidays and special occasions! When I lived in Sydney i discovered the hard way that a Brazilian in Australia means take off the lot - i was gobsmacked to find I had a completely bald fanjo!!!

Trying not to feel glum in this corner so jumping back into the hammock of hope. Not sure what dpo I'm at - somewhere between 7 and 10. A few months ago I had a really strong vision that I would be pg by my birthday (this month) but it doesn't look like it now and I'm descending from the hopeful part of the 2ww into the anticipation of disappointment. Trying to stay positive, keeping busy and listening to lots of mindfulness tracks to calm everything down.

Sending you all happy and healthy vibes this morning, berries. Hope you're feeling okay, barking and lumen and all of you.

tiger keep your chin up, sweetie, hope you get lovely and comfy in your hopehammock

rosie yeah it was shorthand for Can't Be Arsed. I would have written it out in full, but you know what... hehe.

serenity I hope you're okay love. I'm a lifelong prozac gobbler and had to make the choice to stay on or come off it when we started ttc. I managed 9 months without it and just ended up ill so have gone back on them since. It's so so easy to forget and break your routine though isn't it? The sooner you get back on them, the sooner you're back on the road to getting settled again - it's just as important to look after yourself for yourself as well as when you catch on. Got to be a happy healthy growbag :) Hope I'm not coming across patronising here, and that you settle back into them again quickly and comfortably, pet x

Sorry, but another rant from me. Another instadiffer friend let down....

Supposed be having a girls night out with some friends on Sat, one of whom is my best mate and also pretty much an instadiffer (well 5 months, which she thought was ages). Didn't bat an eyelid when night out became afternoon out, as I'm sure it is hard to leave your baby for the first in 4 months to go out with your friends. However, have now had a text saying baby isn't well, and although she is hoping it will clear up by Saturday, she thought she better forewarn me. Bit late as I've now booked a train ticket, and don't want to seem like an unsympathetic cow, and of course I hope her little one is ok, but I'm sure her husband can manage for a couple of hours. Perhaps she won't end up cancelling but I can't see it going any other way now....

Grrr tiger, I sympathise totally. Had the same thing with one of my bridesmaids. She ended up missing my hen do (a one night event), because she hadn't seen much of her toddler that week...
I just don't understand in some of these situations where you've got a longstanding pre arranged meet up (ie not a random lunch locally, something everyone has made plans around) that the fathers can't just step in for a few hours?! Obviously the baby will come first, but if the father is available why does that mean the mother can't leave the house?! I was brought up with what I would call equal parenting. If I was sick it was just as likely to be my Dad looking after me if both parents were in the house.
Just another example of when you see something and swear that you will never be that kind of parent .

Thanks barking. Grrr indeed, I'm doing a 200 mile round trip to go, train tickets already booked.

Ooo, the mind-body book just arrived! Supposed to be cleaning the car, but....

Are you meeting other friends as well or if she pulls out will it all go down the plug?

Arghhhh Tiger completely understand and that is some distance to be going for her to mess you about. I would think that was a foregone conclusion from her text tbh.

Barking am hoping you get some nice time to yourself to recover over the next few weeks. Your boss is such a wanker, I still can't believe someone would behave like that when they are aware of the persons circumstances.

Kitten hi! Can't remember if I've said hello already, I've been on hols and have missed tons. Anyway, welcome! You sound like you may be from around the area I am although I'm sure other people say aye and pet too Sorry to hear you've had a rough time ttc though and welcome to the dildocam world! My FC dims the lights when they do them which I found really weird!

Chloe Lumen I will also join in with the pompom dance for you both with Gill and again for you Gill in August!

I can't remember which of you berries have read the Emma Cannon book? But what did you think? There's some interesting things in there but it is definitely a bit woo in places even for me who loves a bit of woo at times. I've been identifying my Chinese medicine fertility type all holiday....

I had a lovely relaxing holiday but got stressed about work as soon as I got home so am working on relaxing! Also we are having a month off ttc. My cycle dates went wrong and so for shag week dh will be away. So we will wait to start iui which will be at the start of my next cycle in about 3/4 weeks. Is it weird that I'm looking forward to getting some info about my cycle from being monitored?!

hey beaky welcome back! sorry about your cycle but how exciting that things are moving.

barking really happy your bleeding has finally stopped. You're sounding more cheerful in your posts too so I hope your time offis having the right effect.

rp no scan? are you feeling better today?

kitten same thing happened to me with my first dildocam. It wasn't as bad as a smear test though.

tiger sometimes women really let themselves down. like not ocmign into work because baby Noah's got an ear infection. Just letting the whole sex down. It's just sh*tty manners apart from anything else. sorry

hi everyone else. been so tired and busy lately not been posting much, and my dislike of my phone has now reached epic proportions. Good thing I had woo needles again today. Another job where leg stubble exposure is an occupational hazard. screw it.

Off on hols so will have no phone for a week. I cannot wait. Hope you all have a good week and a dull one for you diffed berries. Hope you're all on the same thread still when i get back…!

Thanks Kitten :)

Serenity that sounds rough. What happened with the Faceache post? I hope you're not in trouble!! What a cow for saying anything at work, though.

tiger can you cancel or are they advance?

barking headache sounds like stress migraine. As an ex-migraine person.... stay cool, drink water, put your feet up, and try to sleep. Nothing makes that kind of headache go away except time, though.

nolly not bleeding so don't think they would do a scan. I have my 12w booked for third week in July (which is this month! shit!) so unless things go really pear-shaped I will hang out for that. I should know early next week if there is an infection.

seren Sorry you're having a rough time of it. I agree with gill, maybe try and get some exercise in the fresh air, then maybe a nice bath and an early night's sleep. Sometimes thungs feel a but brighter in the morning. For those of you suffering from depression, when I was researching inositol for TTC purposes, I read that it it supposed to help with depression. May be worth looking into?

gill what's the baby aspirin supposed to do, I guess help with bloodflow?

tiger it's not over until the witch arrives, there's still hope for this month yet. Make sure sure you plan something nice for your birthday to treat yourself! Shall we go and bollock your flaky friend for you, what a crap excuse, especially when you don't exactly live round the corner!

barking Unfortunately a FUFC is out of the question. What we did in the 5 days pre-ov won't get me pregnant! I decided (for the first time in 2 years TTC) to swallow something on the basis there was no way I could get pregnant anyway. Oh the irony. Sorry if TMI but I figured it might make you all giggle.

Welome back beaky Not long to the IUI. I know what you mean abiut bizzaerrely looking forward to the treatment - I was the same going for my USs when injecting as I was eager to know if it was working. Never thought it would come to that!

Happy holidays and shag week nolly!

Looks like the dancing troupe of gillster rosie tiger and beaky is doing a good job. ET is still on for Sat. The secretariat couldn't give me any news on the number of embies left, but said that there will be at least 1 based on the fact they've been instructed to fix the appointment. I was so terrified when I rang up that it would get cancelled.

in the meantime please can somebody batter me round the head with my FC's annual report so I can stop number crunching the statistics and trying to work out how likely it is to work? Ta!