TTC 10 Months Plus, Supporting Eachother & Staying Positive :) new thread!!

[m33r]

Hopefully we'll see more BFPs on this one!

M33R so glad to hear your procedure went well and no issues arising for you. Take care of yourself today though, sounds like quite a horrific experience. Hopefully you get upduffed now with your new shiny clear tubes ;)

Vic good luck for GP, be adamant to get a referral! Hope your appointment goes well.

I cried my eyes out for that very reason when I went in ... There's a take that song which has the lyric 'how did it come to this; how did it come to this' and that just plays over and over in my head all the time!

Good luck this morn!

Thanks for the info on the procedure m33r. Glad to hear they didn't find any issue and hope you recover quickly so you can get on with TTC.

vic I can't see why the GP wouldn't refer you. Fingers crossed and let us know how you get on.

I contacted my local private hospital who said I'd have to go for a 30 min apt first which would cost £195 + vat then they would decide whether a scan would be appropriate. We have so much going on with builders at the mo I don't think we can do it. Guess I just need to wait on the nhs apt

How long til your nhs appt holly?

Nice to see you again mam hope the staying away is helping.

They won't refer us until dh's 2nd SA comes back and says the same. Need to wait til the end of July! Then I need my bloods done so that's another month after that! Won't get our letter sent off to the clinic until Sept/Oct now! I've joined a facebook group for my local clinic and things seem to move quick once you get a referral so I'm still hoping for my one and only funded cycle before I'm 35 next year! The doc was all doom and gloom about the referral though. Warning us of the struggle and disappointment and not to have our hopes up etc. Cheers then.

Hope your wait isn't too long for nhs holly. Do you know how many ivf cycles you get in your area if it comes to that?

I'm really hating this postcode lottery of England. If we lived up the road in the next county where DH is from we would get 3 funded cycles. And if we lived in Wales, where I was born and bred we'd get 2, but massive waiting lists!

Feel better soon m33r x and I'm going to adopt your song as our theme theme tune too x

vic that is ridiculous. My doc sent our letter off BEFORE I had bloods and before my DH was even registered at the surgery. As a result, we've hammered through the process. So crap that it isn't the same for you.

All doom and gloom for your particular situation or for ivf / fertilty process generally? Just don't think that is helpful! We need to stay positive. It will be disappointing regardless of whether you hoped / prepared. Grrrrr to your area!

She said we had to make sure we had done all these tests at the exact right moment to the clinic would just send us back to the GP! A girl in the new fb group got referred from our surgery in less time than we've been ttc with the exact same diagnosis as us. She's going to find out which GP it was. She said she was referred in the Feb, had appointment in June and preg in August! She now has a bouncing baby girl from her first and only cycle.

And yes its all about being positive and keep moving forward.

Find out who and don't be scared to push!

That's all so shocking that it can be so didn't for different people even from the same practice!

We had to have been ttc for 2 years before we were even allowed to start tests let alone get the referral in our last area! Was gutted when we moved as we got to the 2 year mark to find if we'd moved earlier we would have been able to get tests after just one year!

Plus we're lucky in this area to get 3 rounds of IVF if we need it. Only 2 in last area.

So wrong.

Anyway need some advice. .. After wondering if I should chase gp for test results, dh has received a letter today asking him to make a routine appointment to discuss his recent test result. It was his first sa...2nd still to be done.
Should I be panicking? I haven't told him that most of your seemed to get results by phone as don't want to worry him but because he thinks it is routine he's decided to get his next sa done before he bothers making the appointment! That means he won't see the gp for another 3 weeks at least as we're on holiday in between. I'm not sure I can worry for that long!!!!

Catching up quickly, Vic why do you have to wait until after next SA to do your blood test? Can you get in touch with the clinic and ask them what they need and when (which i would guess is bound to be different to what the dr has said) and then go back to a different GP (the one this girl finds name of) and demand they sort it out. Then when you've been referred make a complaint about the GP!!

That's rubbish vic. I had to wait until after DH had his 2nd SA but we only had to wait a month between them. Definitely worth following up if others have had a different response. No nhs IVF for us as we are fortunate enough to already have a 3 year old dd, also I am 40 next month so that also rules us out.

Nhs appointment should be within 12 weeks of me returning the form they sent -assuming they accept it without the date of my last smear (which I forgot to add before posting it)

Just a quick update for those of you who are interested....
I got a letter from the private clinic today with my results. All good thankfully. My AMH is 22 which is plum normal for my age and is a representation of ovarian reserve. My USS was also normal. We have an appointment with private consultant a week in Thursday to discuss.
Mr jesses results have not been as good, with low motility, but good numbers and morphology.

Slightly worryingly, we have received a letter from nhs. In my area, you get referred by your gp to gynae clinic for initial investigations unless there is a problem. We recieved a letter directly from the assisted conception unit (not where gp referred us to) - this must mean the gp told them the semen analysis results, and they have bypassed the gynae part as they think we need assisted conception.

Still living in hope that this miraculously happens any month.....
A girl can dream....

jesse motility can be improved. dhs motility went from 4% to 20% after 2 weeks on that fertilaid stuff. I know it doesn't feel like it but its a good result and could mean an easier fix than ivf. good to hear all your results cane back OK.

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Hi girls! Back from a lovely break with DH and been catching up with you all. It's so frustrating that different areas work so differently with the referrals etc. we got referred to the fertility clinic before DH even had a SA appointment, let alone a result. I've already had a letter from them to say they now have all our results and an appointment will follow "shortly" (LOL). This has all been within 3 weeks of GP referral. Why can't all systems be like that?!

Just waiting on AF now. 2 days late but from OPKs I know I ovulated at least 2 days late this month. Sometimes when I O on cd19, I pull off a 31 day cycle. It's weird. But if I O as normal on cd17 then I always get that crappy 7/8 day luteal phase. That's why when I know I'm O-ing late, DH gets the good loving! LOL

OK, hope all is well and you're having a nice weekend!

Can anyone advise???
Spent a few months trying various ovulation tests with no success until I bought the clear blue smiley face one! So for a couple of months it came up I was ovulating exactly when I expected it to apart from this month when a couple of days on and still no smiley face :-( has anyone come across this? Could I maybe only be ovulating some months??

Apparently even the most normal healthy woman doesn't ovulate once a year or something. I can't help you with the clearblue ov thing though I'm afraid. I get really bad ov pains so I have no doubt!

May, I hope dh's sa results are ok. Does sound worrying when they say they need to see you and yes that's what our doc said when my dh's results were bad :-(

Holly, I read up about Sa's and it seems depending on which of the areas were suboptimal whether they repeated the test asap or after 3 months. Didn't really understand the ins and outs.

Jesse, you went to see a private consultant yes? Did you need a GP referral to see them as you would to an nhs clinic or does the private guy refer you to the clinic?Was thinking of seeing a private doc to start the nhs ball rolling, if I can that is...

Lindsay, glad you had a nice time away. Anywhere nice?

Thinking i should get a second opinion at my GP's for an early referral. Have been reading the WHO guidelines for early referrals aimed at GP's.

Indications for early referral

In women
Age > 35 years and trying to conceive for one year
Amenorrhea or oligomenorrhoea
Previous abdominal or pelvic surgery
H/O PID / STD
Abnormal pelvic examination/ investigation

In men
Previous or current genital pathology
Previous urogenital surgery
H/O STD
Significant Varicocele/ systemic illness
Abnormal genital examination/ semen analysis

Kicking ourselves that we forgot to mention dh's surgery. After we told MIL about our infertility she mentioned this surgery dh had as a child which he couldn't remember anything about! Apparently he had an op to correct his urethra as it was in the wrong place! He remembers having an op but thought it was a circumcision and GP said that wouldnt of harmed anything. well I guess there wouldn't be any Jews if it did cause harm in that dept! But now we know it was something much more drastic and forgot to tell GP on Friday!

I'm well jel of you girls that have been referred on less poking and prodding than we have. GP wouldn't repeat my bloods earlier coz she seemed to have some wierd idea that dh's repeat sa would be miraculously normal and we would still have to wait 2 years. So only when, yes when, the sa comes back bad again coz antispern antibodies don't vanish gp knows f all about them will I get my bloods then a referral. So looking at around Sept/Oct now at earliest. Sigh.

Sorry things arent straight forward vicky nothing is ever easy I just hope that once everything gets going for you it wont be long.

blueeyes as vicky said even completely normal women dont ovulate every month just keep an eye on it hopefully its just a one off.

jesse glad your tests were good. Sorry about mr jesse but im sure his can be dealt with quite easily.

lindsay glad you had a nice time away.

may I wouldnt worry to much every gp seems to be different and maybe this is just the way they do it. We only had one sa done.

holly I hope you get your appointment soon.

Im in the tww had quite a few ovulation symptoms so ive got my hopes up. Lots of dtd just in case so we shall see. I very much doubt my body suddenly decided to ovulate on its own

Hope everyone enjoyed the weather!

Blueberry, maybe it was the injection that stopped you ovulating and maybe it could start back on its own? In my WHO GP guidelines it actually said about the depo. That women should be warned that it can take up to 2 years for their bodies to return to normal afterwards. Fingers crossed! I'm guessing you were not told this when you decided on this contraception? I've known a few people who put on loads of weight with it too.

Vic has a point blue. are they repeating your blood test at all? I thought they usually repeat it if negative in case it was on wrong day or just a one off annovulatory cycle. I know its not for everyone but tracking my bbt really helped me take some control back.

Morning ladies,

Ive always said it was the depo but every doctor or nurse I mention it to says its not.

I was told it could take up to a year which is why I came off it about 8 months before ttc.

vicky I did put on weight but the doctors refuse its linked.

lil I had 3 months worth of blood tests with day 21 and a couple later in case I ovd late. I couldnt do my temp I wake up often during the night.

Morning ladies, had a few days of not thinking about it (well trying not to anyway!) so stayed away over the weekend - everything sounds crap at the moment!!! Why are we all having such a bad time???? Felt really teary yesterday as went out for the afternoon with a friend who has 3 kids ahead of our joint gp appointment this afternoon. Just want to curl up in a ball today but no chance - and I hate feeling sorry for myself it's not who I am at all - grrrr!!!! Hope everyone (or at least someone) gets some good news soon xx

Hi all.

Since my lap - which I hear can help ttc by flushing you out - I have booked reflexology sessions to cover all of next cycle. I'm still off alcohol and coffee and both of us are on vits. I have also ordered more opks and preseed and have stocked up grapefruit juice. I have also done some mental mood boards.

We are lucky that there seems to be no medical reason that we haven't done it yet so I am going back to day dot and going for it this month. CD 1 should be next Friday (but may be later owing to lap) and first reflexology is Saturday.

Is there anything else - wives tales included! - that I can do for this 'best chance' month?