The Berries: The one where The Berries cease to exist after a spate of waxy knicks and a'hem seepage (thread 20)

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The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

barking Thanks for the acupuncture info! As for the injections I really don't feel them at all. I guess it depends which ones they are though and the size of the needle? The orgalutran is supposed to hurt more as the needle is bigger and the liquid thicker. I just make sure I give the skin a good pinch so it's quite taught. I tend to gain weight on my stomach first so there is plenty to get hold of!

lumen I'm glad the sniffing is going ok for you. I have my first scan tomorrow, fingers crossed everything is going to plan!

Feather Good luck with the inositol, I hope it works out for you. I saw you were asking about amounts on another thread. I was taking about one flat teaspoon a day, but I can't remember if that was roughly 2g or 4g!? Maybe start with that for a couple of months. When researching it I read that you can safely take much much largely amounts, which are apparently recommended for other conditions such as depression.

beaky Good luck with the IUI. I have 9 days of injecting if all goes to plan. 4 down already!

RP Thanks for a bit of light relief with your husband's trip to the hospital!

bushy Thinking of you and sorry you're not getting much support from the hospital. I would def test on Friday. I'm so amazed by how brave you are in coping at this awful time.

Can anybody offer any advice about my injections? When I used my Gonal pen tonight, OH saw there was blood in the pen afterwards. I guess that I hit a vessel and it's somehow gone back in the pen. Now I don't know if I can keep using it? It will be really annoying if not as there is 150€ of medication still in there!

Please send me good follicle vibes for my scan tomorrow!

nolly I think that is a pretty decent manifesto. You would get my vote! I spent 3.5 years in a job that involved hours of train travel around the UK so I totally understand where you are coming from!

bushy sending you continued love and positive vibes. Hope that you get some answers soon, but think you are doing fantastically well and being really brave. Only natural to feel all sorts of emotions.

rp your poor DH. Still, a little insight into the embarrassment that we have to face. As feather said, nothing compares to having a gang of people rummaging down your business end!!

Hmm feather not sure about the CM situation. Mine tends to be lotion-y after ov. Don't know if the colour has any meaning. Shame that the stand in acupuncturist was no good.

win I can well understand your anxiety but you are doing the right things to get yourself back in to a more positive mindset. You are over the first hurdle, and I think we've all learnt that the worry will never go away for those of us who don't get up the duff straight away and in blissful ignorance of all the long term ttc bullshit. Sending positive vibes your way.

hb hope all is going well.

thanks Tiger. I also think that people who dump people in a nasty way should be criminalised, and queuing, dumping and emailing properly should be taught in schools. but of course I would.never say so cos I.sound like a.mentalist.

the woman opposite keeps uttering a light laugh. I want to smush her face!

funky it ain't over til it's over. 11dpo is.too.early and symptoms tell you nowt sadly.

free ivf and death to insensitive relatives also obviously on the manifesto. open to suggestions???!

chloe I was on gonal f as well. I was told to hold the end of the pen in, wait 10 seconds then keep holding it in as I took it out. I bled a few times but it never went all the way up the needle and into the pen. If there is anything in the pen I don't think you're supposed to use it.

I struggle with needles generally I think. Not in a squeamish way, I just find them painful. My consolation for still not being pg was to train hard while all my mates were putting on weight as well as baby bumps, and as a result my almost six pack means I don't have much to 'pinch', when I yelp my acupuncture lady just tells me I'm too skinny and the needles are going into muscle .

nolly can I vote for you tomorrow?

feather good for you telling the acupuncture woman what was what. I really struggle to understand a word mine says, she has such a strong chinese accent!! I'm supposed to go twice a week this week and next. She said if my estrogen wasn't increasing quickly enough for the first half of the cycle then my progesterone would need support as well. Although I'm using the pessaries she said my ovaries would need support to use it. No idea, but willing to try anything...

Loving the manifesto - you have my vote!

Bushy sending you lots of hugs and love. I think I'd have had a drink by now!

RP I had to laugh out loud about DH, the poor boys don't have to face too much indignity but I think we cope with it better.

All ok here; well apart from an awful sore throat I never knew there was soo much that you can't take if pg; even strepsils are a no go! OTD (what does the O stand for?) is Friday, am ok but pretty much convinced myself that it hasn't worked.

ooh and good folicle vibes to you chloe! Hope it goes well tomorrow.

afm, not much to report. CD9 and delaying start of SMEP because OH has been struck down with some sort of yucky bug. So there is unlikely to be any action in the tiger household tonight!!

Busy at work, and having to take a day off for the job interview on Tues. Not entirely sure about giving up the wonderful work-life balance for a more demanding job again...I HATE not being able to plan my life! Acupuncture tomorrow, hoping that will lift my spirits!

Sorry your FC haven't been able to help much Bushy I would test Friday too I reckon. Then down all of the wine I could find if it's bfn. I am still hoping and wishing everything is ok for you though.

RP your poor dh, but yes it's still nothing compared to what we have! When does he get the results?

So, PM Nolly I think we should have one day a year where we go in a crystal maze type money dome and you get to keep as much money as you can grab haha. Also if you could somehow give us the ability to pause time that would be ace. I think this is turning into my rub a genie get 3 wishes, rather than politics...! I think people that talk really loud should be banned though! I think it's so self important!

Feather mine is sometimes a bit thick and yellowie, but I haven't really thought too much of it and as Nolly said I wouldn't notice if we weren't ttc.

Chloe sending positive follie vibes your way! Hope it's doing well.

HB keep positive! You never know

Tiger I'm smeping too this cycle although only cd6 here. Know what you mean about not being able to plan your life, I feel like I'm stuck in long term limbo! Can you say what they job you are going for is?

Thanks all for the good wishes for my appointment tomorrow I'm watching Harry Potter again. There's not much on and I can't do emotional stuff these days!

Yep, long term limbo is very apt beaky. I am finding it very difficult to live in the moment and just enjoy myself right now, whilst facing the uncertainty around ttc. The job is with a management consultancy, probably not baby friendly but certainly should be challenging and varied. Hope your appointment goes well tomorrow!

Results at GP in 10 days! Although my GP has this "helpful" policy where they contact you if the results are abnormal. So eg when I had my 21d prog done, as it was within normal levels, they just didn't tell me the results had come back. So you basically wait a bit and make an appt or if you are DH you wait three friggin months.

So HB will you know on Griday then? That is v exciting :) I'm all as I am sure it hasn't taken this month. Boo.

Bushy you are one strong lady!

Beaky and Chloe good luck for your appointments tomorrow.

RP caused me to chuckle as usual! Your poor dh!

Feather I think its normal to have yellowy looking stuff now and again. If it persists then Id get checked out in case of infection. I'm sure it's all ok though.

Nolly I shall also be voting for you!

I've sobbed and sobbed this evening at Supervets! The vet did some spinal surgery on a little doggy. It was so emotional! I love dogs!

12dpo now. I know 11 dpo is still too early to test, but my spotting is getting more so I'm sure it'll turn to AF by tomorrow. Some months I seem so much more disappointed than others. Been trying not to cry all day! Do other berries feel like that?

Hang on in there Win. You can do it!

Gosh Funky I could not watch that, I'd cry the whole way through. The news tonight about the dog getting the animal equivalent of the victoria cross was enough to finish me off! I also felt particularly devastated last cycle as thought there was a chance and had been symptom spotting. It's really hard. Hugs and to you Funky

Tiger it sounds interesting, I'd love a change of career right now. I don't even know if I would be doing much that differently but ttc just monopolises everything. I think I would be trying to sort my working life out more though!

funky a few days before af I always feel tearful but I agree, some months are much harder than others. I would probably have balled my eyes out at super vets too! Poor dog. beaky I was so disappointed this month too and I'm struggling to conjure up a positive outlook. Do you have anything nice planned for the bank holiday weekend?

Right, better get up and go and vote before work. Have a good day everyone!

Argh! I'm at work and just realised I forgot to take my pessary this morning . Do I drive home again?! Will missing one make that much difference? If I went home at lunchtime it would be 5 hours late and I'm supposed to take them every 12 hours. What would you do berries?!

Already said my bit in t'other place. I would take. Bob home now or at lunch. I think I caused my earlier spotting this cycle by missing a day of the high dose b6. Think my body registered the progesterone had lowered and the spotting started. I know I couldn't concentrate in work all day if I knew I needed to take the pessary. But I'm a bit crazy.

Barking go home and take it. Sorry if this is too late but you don't want to think - I wish I had done that- later in cycle.

Did you manage to nip home barking? Hope so.

Good luck today chloe!

Yes, I drove home and took it! Wasn't worth the potential 'what if?' later!!! I've also put a couple in my wallet - if I forget again I'll have one on me!!

barking sorry you forgot your press art this morning but I think you did the right thing going back for it. A word of warning on keeping some on you, I read of another lady who had some in her handbag, left that in a car, and they melted as it got so hot!

tiger hope your acupuncture went well and has succeeded in lifting your spirits

chloe how did you get on with your folly scan? I have no idea about the blood in the Gonal F pen but I suggest you call your FC

funky any sign of af today? I have definitely found some months harder than others as some of the months I have been 'sure' that we were successful, but af showed up month after month.

bushy I really want to give you a hug. You are being so strong. Test on Friday and Sunday. Your nurse does not sound helpful

win hope your visit with the counsellor yesterday has helped. How are you feeling?

hb I also have no idea what the O stands for in OTD, it is an an acronym I had not seen until I came on here. Best of luck tomorrow, I will be checking all day to see how you have got on. Fingers crossed for you.

beaky I will be sniffing down reg drugs twice daily for the first 3 weeks, then if that has gone ok I will continue with the sniffing and start stimming the same as chloe is now doing. I think I am due to stimm for 11 days per my current schedule. How did you get on with your first FC appointment today? Have been thinking of you

rp I have enjoyed the stories of your dh's splinter and hospital mishaps, hope the outcome is good. I have had numerous dildocams but only had my dh in the room on my last one at the FC, I think he had new respect for the indignities we go through.

nolly I voted for you today on the basis of your opinion of people on trains. I am a daily commuter and get irritated most days by the ignorant people. The most annoying thing for me is people on the 6am train thinking it is ok to chat, when everyone else is obviously trying to sleep or read in peace and quiet.

feather sorry to heard your acupuncture stand in lady was shit! that's not what you go there hoping for it is.

happy hope you have a great hen weekend in Bristol, enjoy lots of and

How are all you other berries? lady, because, gill, boodle, wildflower, rosie, and anyone else I have missed?

As for me, I am on day 3 of sniffing, all going ok so far. Have upped my water intake to about 3 litres a day which had me peeing all day long. Going to stay with my folks this weekend so will be sniffing in secret. They know we have been referred for IVF but not that we have started, I don't need their expectations on top of ours.

Sorry for the long post

barking I meant pessary, not press art, unless you also forgot to take art made of pressed flowers in with you

lumen and hb I think OTD = Official Test Date, although I always read 'On The Day' for some reason?! I'm not sure I'll be able to hold out until mine, but how early is too early?! Have you resisted pimping early hb?

lumen I don't think I'd want to get pressed flowers confused with pessaries!

beaky how was the appointment? When will you start?

Losing track of everyone, we need a berry calendar of appointments, test dates etc so we know when to check for news!

Agree barking! I'm totally lost! Let's start a shared google calendar!

Another law for you nolly: eating crisps and apples in offices should be banned. The sound of chewing makes me want to commit murder!

Will catch up on thread tonight if I can - still at work and have at least a few more hours to go. Gah!

It just struck me earlier, as I googled yet more ttc questions about IUI, acupuncture, progesterone etc etc, that ttc before the internet must have been a very confusing and lonely experience. I'm sure lots of us have found that anyway, but imagine not even being able to ask the berries or dr google a question! I'm not sure I'd ever have realised that a short LP was a bad thing, or known to push for the progesterone. I certainly wouldn't have been able to question, moan and despair through all my injections... . And the support through my mc would have been down to DH alone, no one else in RL got it.

This is my berry appreciation post!!

wise words barking having just spent 20 mins googling "4dpo symptoms" I'm an idiot. the cray has cetainly set in earlier than usual this month.

Thanks for the votage support ladies. and love the suggestions beaky and Feather! especially tickled with the Crystal Maze idea. When I win I promise that all your wildest dreams will come true…(anyone else a napolean dynamite fan?) I am a v angry commuter too lumen. i have to say it's been an education living in the north, where people will just say politely but firmly, "could you be quiet please?" i was like "whaaaaat? don't you just sit and fume and swap significant faces with other passive agressive people???"

funky some months are definitely worse than others. SOmetimes practically a zen-like "oh well" and others, well, here i am at 4dpo and googling like a maniac already. thank christ for you berries. did the witch get you?

hope went well today chloe with your scan

Fingers crossed for you both HB and bushy for tomorrow...

Ha ha nolly, I am one of those passive aggressive angry face people although I have recently taken to moving seats if possible rather than be annoyed all the way to work. Not the best way to start the day.