The Berries: The one where The Berries cease to exist after a spate of waxy knicks and a'hem seepage (thread 20)

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The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

nolly I was similar. I went teetotal when we started ttc. I have enough experience of foetal alcohol syndrome to scare me away from touching a drop. I think it took me around 18 months to think f&ck this and from then I have had the occasional glass of wine but not a lot. I started by not drinking at all in the 2ww but then gave up on that as well. But still, a heavy night for me would be drinking a large glass of wine...
I've stayed off it completely since starting the IUI though. Would be rather hypocritical of me to carry on drinking when I've banned DH for the last 10 days, which included a stag do and a wedding...

Sorry HB I knew that as well. Such an eejit today.

Does anyone else get really sore boobs before ov?

Tiger your puppy is lush!

I get them the day after ovulation, all through my LP. It sucks.

I get them all through my LP too, it's shit. They are really really sore today though which I wasn't expecting.

I'm 11dpo so they are effin killing me.

Evening Berries! Hope you have all enjoyed topping up the vit D this weekend.

barking best of luck tomorrow! will be thinking of you. And congrats on getting the assessments marked.

rain hope you had lots of cocktails by the sea - very jealous

bushy hope the spotting stops soon, I think you are on what I fondly think of as 'crotch-watch' every end if 2ww for me. Step away from Google until baby is at least 18! Our IVF is also NHS funded but that includes freezing any extra embryos and 3 years storage - yet another difference in the postcode lottery. Hope you got your bike ride in and that the weather stays nice for you for next weekend.

tiger sorry about your OH, men can be so annoying and it's usually because they don't know how to express what they are feeling. Great pic of roaching dog. Is it called the same when cats do it as mine is often in that position!

nolly hope you enjoyed your gardening! that's what I spent the weekend doing too

because hope the pms symptoms bugger off

beaky how are you doing?

chloe hope your first jab went ok, mine are all chilling in the fridge for a couple of weeks time. Are you on Gonal F too?

hb hope your 2ww if going past quickly and that you are enjoying being pupo

On the sore boobs issue, I get through every 2ww which never helps when symptom spotting.

So tomorrow is the start of our sniffing the DR drugs. Almost a year to the day since we went to the docs to start investigations (we are still unexplained so a lot of good the year did us). DH and I are both excited that something is finally happening. Will be sniffing in work in the morning and potentially on the train in the evening as busy day tomorrow, bring it on!

Here's to a good week for all berries, sorry if I have missed anyone x

Quick query; during the 2ww is an absence of symptoms (other than those caused by the progesterone) a symptom in itself? I know I'm probably panicking for no reason, but other than sore boobs (which I never have) I have no symptoms whatsoever..... Well other than the irrational bursting into tears!

On the discussion around cost, I haven't totted up drugs but basics are 3500 for the treatment, 600 for freezing, 420 for culture to blastocyst for me! Will tot up the drugs and let you know

hb as I understand some people have no symptoms at all, not helpful I know

I will look at what our cycle would have cost if not on nhs, have a copy of the costs from clinic somewhere.

Evening all.

Bushy hope you're okay. I think just take it as easy as poss and hang on in there

Kitty I was so interested by what you said a couple of pages back about cervical erosion leading to bleeding after sex. I have CE and I remember a really scary episode when I was very young and had masses of bright red blood after sex. The GP just dismissed it but I've always wondered what it was.

Lady are you reading? I have been thinking of you.

Barking absolutely everything xed for tomorrow!

Halfway thru my own 2ww. No symptoms. Spent 13 hours helping out at a charity event DH was running yesterday, wearing regulation black cotton shirts - developed massive sick headache by end of day, not helped by young volunteer asking me all about how DH and I got together and would we have a family etc. Grr. Came home and showered and fell asleep on bed around 8pm, only to wake up in middle of night all tucked in and with DH next to me - ended up sleeping for 14 hours all told!!

Is ridiculous sleepiness a symptom? mind you, meant I had plenty of energy today to tidy entire house, mow lawn, and do 4 loads of laundry.

DH sperm analysis on Weds but he managed to get a splinter into his "wanking hand" - lovely.....

rp you made a depressed girl chuckle with the splinter in the wanking hand!!! Love, love, love your roaching hound tiger. Oh to be that bendy! Didn't go for the bike ride lumen bleeding got worse and is pretty much like a period and stomach hurts so thought it best to give it a miss and try to take it easier. It's so hard as I don't know whether to give in to the feeling that it's all over and succumb to the unfairness of it all or to keep hoping, which in some ways is more difficult. Feel a fool for letting myself get excited over the bfp. I do know that bleeding is common and perhaps it's an Ivf thing but it just seems cruel coming after the bfp and there's not much I can do about it.

I didn't have symptoms in the 2ww after egg transfer other than a few twinges and still feeling bloaty and a bit gassy. Although I didn't think of it as a 2 ww. Think I was just trying to go from one day to the next without overthinking. Really interesting that someone said freezing was included on their nhs, still am just so grateful that we get 3 chances, although going through this and all the emotion makes me think about how hard doing it all again would be.

Good luck sniffing lumen, I felt good doing it as I felt like I was doing something proactive and that the wheels were in motion. I've actually felt, until now, the best I've felt in ages it seemed like all the futility was taken away and I felt really level and balanced. That's all gone cockahoop now and feel v sad and have to stop myself, as well was snappy yesterday- it's like all of this has been pent up and is now getting let out. Got work tomorrow, Last week then it's half term. I just don't care at the mo, we've got observations but I just don't feel like I've got the vim for it, feel wrung out. Anyway, I'm about to get out the violin so better stop, thanks for your ears!

Bushy :( call the clinic in the morning?

bushy big hugs x

barking good luck for today!

bushy are you really in a good place for work? Can you call the clinic first thing? When do they open? Can you just text your head and say what's happening? I went back after the mc way too soon thinking it would take my mind off it but my head wasn't in the right place to be in a classroom. I was snapping at the children and didn't have a clue what I was doing, ended up bursting into tears and going home. I'm not saying the bleeding means anything, just relating to trying to teach when you're so worried about something.

Bushy I second what Barking has said. Do not go in to school whilst you are having such a stressful and worrying time. It's the last place you should be. Can you speak to someone at your clinic? For your own peace of mind if nothing else? I'm sure everything will be fine but its better to get yourself checked out. Will be thinking of you today

You too Barking good luck!

Good morning, sorry for silence, I was away over the weekend.

Win - congratulations! Great news. Keeping all my fingers crossed this is a sticky one.

Bushy, I'm sorry that this is such a difficult and confusing time for you. I agree with barking and happy, get some reassurance from the clinic and maybe think again about teaching today? Keeping fingers crossed that this will all work out well. You've been doing really great so far.

Barking! Good luck! Hope it all goes well today.

Have a good week everyone

Bushy, sorry the spotting isn't getting better. I second what everyone else has said... Can you try and call the clinic? Please don't go to school if you don't feel up to it. It must be so difficult to call in sick as a teacher, but you have to take care of yourself. I have learnt from experience that work will let me keep working till I fall over, you have to put your foot down.

Barking, hope it all goes well today!!! Let us know his it goes!!

Thanks Rosie! Ignoring it at the moment.

bushy agree with everyone re calling the clinic or epu and not going in to work. Thinking of you

barking good luck today! Hope all goes well.

lady if you're reading this just wanted to see how you are.

Hi everyone else! Hope you all have a great week!

All done. But still no clear idea on exercise. 'Carry on as normal'. Hmm. But what if I do quite a lot? 'Don't push yourself for a couple of days but after that you're fine to carry on.'

Really? It's not what other women have been told .

Barking, it's a tough one because they can't do medical studies on the effects of exercise on early pregnancy for obvious reasons. I am inherently lazy and the advice for the style of yoga that I practice, which is bloody hard, is to take the first trimester off, so that's what I would do. I'd probably go for long walks if I felt anxious about not getting any exercise.

Glad it went ok barking. I'd suggest taking it easy with just some walking everyday.

That's great barking. Don't have any advice re exercise but everything I read said to take it very easy in the first trimester.

Did anyone read this? Thought the third last paragraph on IVF 'crowd funding' was interesting.

www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/may/18/desperate-pregnancy-app-smartphone-technology-couples-infertility

Also, has anyone who has pcos tried inositol? Just reading up about it and thinking I may give it a whirl...

Hello all. Can I shamelessly hijack the thread for some wedding present advice, seeing as so many of you are about to or have just got married? Sorry, I know I should post elsewhere but there is always so much negativity on those threads, and I trust the judgement of you ladies!

Wedding on Sat. Fairly close friend but don't know the wife-to-be very well. Invite categorically states no gifts - they already have everything they need and their flat is small so they don't want stuff, or words to that effect. They are not material people at all, so I do believe that they won't want anything (there is no 'but if you would like to get us something' option on the invite). However, I'm not sure I can turn up empty handed. With a lot of friends I would know what they would want/need/like and get them something personal, but these guys really don't want for anything....they are also very well off by anyone's standards.

...would you obey the instruction of no gifts or would you seek to get them something?

tiger, I'm exactly in the same situation for a wedding we are going to on Monday. We are going to give a donation to charity on their behalf.

tiger do you know if they're going on honeymoon? Could you book them a dinner or experience as a surprise? Or send a nice bottle of champers/wine to their room? We've asked for no presents, but have said if you really want to get us something, you can contribute to our honeymoon, but that was after a lot of facing about and I still don't feel 100% comfortable with it. A good friend sent me a text this weekend to say 'leave June 12 10am-12pm free while on honeymoon -we've booked you a surprise. Nothing heavy duty! Just something to enjoy before you come home' - I thought that was the sweetest thing and look forward to seeing what it is.

That sounds lovely feather. I think I would either do the charity thing or give them something consumable like champers or hamper.