The Berries: The one where The Berries cease to exist after a spate of waxy knicks and a'hem seepage (thread 20)

[funkymonk]

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Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

Congratulations Win, keeping everything crossed for a sticky one. Can understand why you're not letting yourself get too excited.

Ooh happy hen do soon? Anything exciting?

Thank you because beaky it's been a horrid few days! just buried him in the garden.
I thought things were going our way for a change but then life kicks you in the heart again.

bushy I know how you feel! I felt the same. Didn't venture to the chopper for a while.

rain enjoy your spa and cocktails

because Stretching the fascia?!?!? Is that a euphemism?!?!???

Ooh win a tentative congrats for you! praying for a sticky one.

chloe thanks! I can't believe we are 20w now. We had full ICSI as DH has low sperm count and I have PCO.

Woohoo!!!! win It does stink that a mc, especially on top of ttc difficulties, takes all the innocence out of a bfp and pregnancy, but last time I just decided to enjoy it while it was all ok. I figured if things went wrong it wasnt going to hurt any less either way whether I let myself get excited or not.

I just got my results and it's good news . Folly finally ok (18mm) and hormones up enough (didn't ask the number). All systems go for Monday! I'm taking the trigger shot at 11.10 tonight, treatment will be 11.10 monday morning.

Thanks Feather unfort I'm north east. I have wanted to try it though so will have to do some research for a fertility one then.

Barking great news finally but worth the wait. Does the trigger shot give you the hormone surge which triggers ov then?

Stretching the fascia

Yep. Doesn't look like I'm about to ov on my own so I do the injection tonight at 11.10 (I'll be at a wedding so it'll be another toilet job, classy) and I have the treatment exactly 36 hours later. I'm a little confused about the 36 hour thing as they'd said on thursday (and friday) that if my hormones were up I'd have treatment the following day, but with results coming out at 2 onwards I wouldn't have had 36 hours between jab and treatment. But they could have told me to jab tomorrow if 36 was too long (clinic isn't open on a Sunday) so I've no idea.

because I'm too scared to press on that link lol

barking woohoo! Keeping everything crossed for you!

Great news barking. Got everything crossed for you. Is it a gonal fb trigger shot? Just being nosey as that's what I had while on clomid.

On a train getting out if the big smoke for a bit and visiting MiL. It's just hit me: I'm kinda in a 2ww now, right? Which means no wine?!? does everyone tend to stop in the 2ww?

Oh barking, what a relief!! Everything crossed for you!!

Feather, whether to act pregnant or not in the 2ww is a constant dilemma for me! I tend to drink in moderation in the first half of the 2ww then try and avoid in the second half, although may have a cheeky one or two.

Thanks everyone for the congrats. I'm going to try not to think too much about it at the mo. One day at a time!!

Confusing Barking! Are you allowed to have sex between now and the proceedure?

Feather I still have a couple of drinks during the 2ww, I clearly haven't managed a bfp though so..

Win that sounds like the best approach! Fx for you.

Yeah, I allow myself some wine during the 2ww. I don't drink a lot (I would say about 1/3 of a small glass) anyway, so I figure it should be fine. I also now every month think this won't be my month, so why bother

Thanks beaky and win. I figure it's not a healthy place to be for me to 'act pregnant' for two weeks every cycle. A glass of bubbles or two won't hurt!

So, so pleased for you win and really hoping it's a sticky beano.

Someone else in here said that they feel happier for a Berrie when the get a bfp than a real life friend/family member. I have to agree!

Xpost because think you're right. Wine ahoy!

Am relaxing with a glass of wine whilst browsing the honestly healthy cookbook and snuggled up to my roaching hound. Think I'll follow the cleanse plan next week, so just making a shopping list.

feather a glass of wine or two is fine I'm sure. Enjoy!

because your pug is a cutie! Awwww!

barking all systems go! Hooray!

Sorry to hear about your kitty bunny so very sad to lose a fur baby x

beaky I agree with feather acupuncture is powerful stuff. I see a lady who is in the zita west network. I've only had three sessions but hopeful it will help. If nothing else j find it boosts my confidence in my ability to get pg. She helped my friend who has pco and wasn't ovulating every month get pg.

Lunch with friends and their two year old was nice, even the surprise pg announcement that they are expecting baby number two, the endless chat about children and the in depth questioning about our plans to start a family. I told the truth about our situation once the lads were out of earshot - at least it means they wont ask again next time!

Am feeling really crap at the moment the spotting seems worse, it's brown on the panty liner but more when I wipe. I'm really scared to think that this could be it and that it's my period coming. I've got one pg test left so will try that tom. I just don't think I can cope if all of this hasn't worked, I just feel in limbo as the paperwork said if the cycle has failed you will get a period in 7 days so it's like I feel this spotting could be the start of a period. I just haven't felt ok all day. Really shouted at dh earlier and just feel really meh. I told him that I needed a cuddle and said about the spotting. He said you had me convinced yesterday that it's normal and not to worry, there's not much we can do. I'd got a DVD out and he said not interested in that. It's the silver linings play book , which I've seen before and he hasn't and it's really good. I just really took offence, I'm feeling really fragile at the mo and just need a bit of comfort and he can't be bothered watching it with me. I watch loads of macho bollocks and sport. Just feel really grrrr and v tearful, hormonal, like I can't stop the tears. Last time I was like this was Mother's Day when next door was pg and I had just started my period. So it makes me feel that this is a period. Another really terrible bit of me wants to have a drink and like everything is v boring... Yes ladies I think I need a wang.

Awww bushy, here is a virtual hug. Men just process anxiety in a different way. I hate the Mars/Venus thing but some of the points are valid. My DH always likes to focus on the facts/figures/etc and doesn't really "get" my hormonal mood swings. I mean, he gets it on an intellectual level because I have explained, but he can't empathise because that's not something he's ever gone through.

Win that's really great news! Totally understand the apprehension. My first positive bfp I was so excited and happy that I couldn't stop shaking. The second bfp I was stricken with fear. Try and relax (so much easier said than done). Could you call the fc after the weekend? Book in for an early scan and see if they would recommend any blood tests for hormone levels?

Barking what a beautiful 18mm follie!All systems go! Enjoy shooting up in toilets this evening!

Chloe thanks a lot for the information about the Liverpool IVF service that your friend used. Woah your drugs were expensive!

Beaky sorry that you think AF has arrived early. What dpo are you?

Because how is your puppy doing this evening?

Bunny I was really sorry to hear about your kitty. So sad.

Feather for the first 12 months or so I stopped drinking pretty much completely, but now I just drink a little now and again. Today is 8 dpo and last night we had a bbq for some family at ours and I had more to drink than I have done in a while, but still not enough to be more than a little tipsy.

Bushy. How are you? Any more spotting?

Had a gorgeous day in the sunshine today. Been in the fresh air from 10.30am until 8pm and DH and I cooked some fillet steak on the bbq for tea. Yum yum.

Bushy you need a hug, not a Wang x

Barking congratulations on the follie, hope all goes ok with the trigger shot.

Sorry Bushy I cross posted with you and Because.

Please try not to worry. Spotting can be so normal. Experienced by a good proportion of the chopper berries and by myself at a point where my pregnancy was still ok. My friend had it for 2 weeks around when her period should have been due and my other friend had it from around period time for approx 10 days as well.

barking fab news!!!! Roll on mon!!!

Bushy there are hormones shooting all around your body explaining everything you are feeling so hang in there. The doubt, worry, frustration, etc are totally normal but that doesn't make them any easier. Look after yourself, and your DH needs a tiny bit of slack as men just struggle with this bit as there is nothing they can do to help (yes, we know a cuddle and some reassuring words would help but they want to be able do something much more tangible) x

Bushy sending hugs your way, the worry must be so tough after going through IVF and everything leading up that but spotting is so common, most of my friends spotted and the other berries and other threads are full of the same thing. I am crossing everything that it is nothing and we will be here anytime you need us. Also as lovely as our other halfs are, Because is right, they haven't experienced what this is like and can't empathise. They are fixers and if they can't fix they block stuff out.

funky fillet steak on the BBQ sounds amazing! We are bbqing tomorrow for my dad's birthday, I hope the weather stays nice. I was 11dpo when AF arrived which was early for me but still long enough I suppose.

bushy no wang from me either. Spotting is a headfuck but normal. Worrying about it is also normal .

I decided I didn't want to do the injection in the toilets. Feeling totally exhausted and was hit by two pregnancy annoucements at the wedding. Both couples got married last year and I wasn't suprised, especially as one couple have been househunting for a 'grown up' house recently. Still hit me though, and I couldn't talk to either of them. One said hello as I walked past and I just couldn't deal with it, I kept walking as if I hadn't heard her . Baby born near my edd was also there. Avoided that too .

So, trigger shot done (Ovitrelle, feather, I was stimming with gonal f). We dtd this morning when we got back from the hospital so that it'll be two days for the swimmers to peak. Nothing else but to turn up on Monday now....

Oh, bless you bushy. Totally understand how you're feeling but please do try and stay positive. Big hugs to you. Agree with all the berries saying that men just don't know how to cope with situations they can't change on a practical level. I too have lots of mates who spotted heavily. One even thought she'd early mc'd as she had what she thought was a 'period' - she now has an 8 month old. Do you think it would be worth visiting an epu tomorrow or Monday if it continues? Just to put your mind at ease? Just remember your hormones are all over the place right now and probably doubly so after having had ivf drugs. Berrie power to you

funky and tiger I had a few glasses of fizz with the MiL and it was lovely. Pre-wedding celebrations have officially begun. Only three weeks to go. oh, and tiger, have ordered the honestly healthy cookbook after you all talking about it on here - sounds ace!