The Berries: Projecting the sausage signal and chasing rainbows whilst chanting FUFC in the hunt for that elusive BFP (thread 19)

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The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

Thanks lady. They've really told me f all, yours seem to be much more thorough. I only have spray deo, maybe I'll go au naturelle. Yup trigger shot Sunday night! When I had my lap done I took dressing gown but didn't use it. Think will just take slippers. Gosh it sounds like it was a very quick, straight forward procedure. Our clinic is quite far away so we will have fun getting there, we're both notoriously late people who get stressy
going anywhere! Will have to leave plenty of time.

It's true what they say leave the washing up for long enough and the man might come and do it!! Lol, better go assist!!

Yup, they said he could refresh the stocks tomorrow at latest then that's it... So leaves 2 days. Or if I can be bothered 'helping out' then he could get rid tonight, which would leave 3 days. Not sure whether 2 or 3 better.

DH wrote 2.5 days of abstinence on the form, the nurse thought it said 25 days, he said he'd have needed a bigger pot if he'd waited that long! Also, the hospital gown was backless so the dressing gown was to preserve my dignity walking in the corridor to theatre!

Exciting times Lady and Bushy. Have literally got everything crossed for you.
Hello everyone else. Will catch up properly tomorrow. Have had a busy few days of wedding stuff and am pooped! X

Good luck to all the ivfers!
I just depressingly worked out that if I'd been an instadiffer I would have an 18 month old toddler by now. And I'm still not even pg.
not helpful. must improve positive thinking

But then you wouldn't have had the same wedding, the same honeymoon and you wouldnt have met the berries!

lady and bushy - exciting news from both of you, hope all goes well!!

barking I'm guessing you're either on or near a plane by now! I hope your trip home is good and that you manage to keep still with all the excitement you must have for your appt next week!

I've not been on MN much last couple of days after ridiculously busy and stressy days at work. Much as I love a 4 day weekend, the 4 day weeks are not so good, still got to squeeze 5 days of work into them!

Generally feeling a bit meh about everything at the mo, veering wildly from 'why are we even bothering' to desperate sadness about all the crap we've been handed so far to convincing myself it probably won't happen and on and on and on....
I've definitely been hit by a mega ton of hormones this cycle, hoping I'm going to snap out of it shortly. Wang please?

All this talk of no moisturisers and aerosols is complete news to me but I guess it makes sense. I would definitely take a dressing gown but then the toilet was miles away and like Lady said, I needed to preserve my dignity. Take your time in recovery, don't rush things straight after as you can feel a little woozy. I don't remember a thing about the procedure other than walking to theatre, lying down then receiving some anaesthetic. Good luck Beaky!

DH also "had a clear out" 2.5 days before egg collection.

The backless gown is THE WORST. Spoken as someone who once had to endure one for weeks. The indignity!

Very true, lady. Anyway, you have to go through the shit to appreciate how good the good stuff is. The people who sail through life seemingly with everything landing neatly in their lap don't actually know how good they have it. So we should pity them, really.

Parsley waiting for flight number 2 of 4 now!

lady 25 days that's hilarious!!! Just had a discussion over whether it would be 3 days or 2 days if dh has emptied this morning. He thinks 3. Ec is Tuesday morning. Thoughts? Or is it the popular 2.5!

barking know what you mean about people going through life having it easy but I think everyone has personal struggles with one thing or another. It's just we don't know about it. I think dh and I had a pretty easy life until ttc and I think if it had happened easily and quickly we would have been in shock. I think now we'll still be in shock but appreciate things more. Also, there is always someone worse off than yourself,it's a case of count those blessings and perspective. I do think finding something difficult or some element of struggle does increase your resilience and appreciation. I think those that haven't had any problems will find it harder when a problem does come along. In our realm of ttc it must be the people that instadiff first time round but struggle to conceive second time that must get a real shock. I love seeing your posts and the difference in time on them, you jet setter you!!

Now, I'm a bit unclear about the sedation thing, did you ladies have this or a general? I'm not entirely sure what's the difference, less serious I take it and I'll be out if it. Will I know what's going on or will I go to sleep like a ga? gilster the perfume deo thing was news to me too! they haven't said anything about it for mine, which is ec under sedation. They just said no eating on morning, stop drinking 2 hours before and take off nail varnish.
When I had my lap op there were more things like no deo, i think because it was surgery.

parsley sorry you're feeling 'meh' about everything. Tbh it's perfectly normal. There's a psychologist's 7 stages of grief and it talks about denial, sadness, numbness, anger, apathy etc. I think I've gone through all of that with ttc, I remember being sad and then just fuck it, makes no difference what I do I may as well enjoy myself and not bother with all the vitamins etc. it messes with your head!

Hey gang, feel like I am totally out of the Berrie loop right now. Have so much catching up to do and it's been a crazy work and wedding planning week topped with some pretty upsetting news for my friends' sister. She had clomid twins 7 weeks ago and one of them died yesterday - he terror end? Trouble TTC, and when you finally get pregnant you stress that something will go wrong and then the baby arrives and you have to bloody worry about SIDS and meningitis etc, then they grow up a bit and the worry is they'll become junky alcoholics. I'm not really sure I'm cut out for that sort of lifelong stress

Got everything crossed for the Berries in the process of IVF right now. Said it before and I'll say it again: goooooo team!

barking hope you had a fabulous time in NZ! Exciting re IUI appointment being so soon!

parsley I mostly feel like that these days. You're not alone. I think it was gill who said earlier in the week that she wonders whether she and her oh should give up and
Be thankful for what they have and that really resonated with me. I'd love to have a child, but I don't know how much more of this process I can take. Anyway, if you're as shallow as me, that feeling will pass and you'll get back on the ttc pony with relish. Ebbs and flows and all that.

On my stupid phone so can't scroll back enough to see what I missed, but hope everyone is ok and that you all have a lovely weekend. and to all.

I meant "when does the terror end?" In the first paragraph btw

Still waiting for the phone call...
Bushy re: sedation/GA, at my clinic it's sedation but using propofol, a drug also used in general anaesthesia, and the sedation is given by an anaesthetist. Some clinics don't use anaesthetists and patients get fentanyl/midazolam sedation. I think propofol is great but I know I'm biased!

I had sedation, no clue which drugs they used but was out for the count as they say and don't remember a thing.

Just dropped my fur baby off at the kennels but am now at the airport . Had a little cry over the dog this morning but have pulled myself together now. What an idiot!

parsley, feather hope you both feel more positive soon. I have also been feeling meh since af, but I usually have a post af downer before getting back on the ttc bandwagon. My acupuncturist was convinced from reviewing my chart last month that I was pg but clearly not. She did suggest a possible chem pg given the pain I was in and how unwell I've been feeling since but I guess I won't ever know. Her positivity is infectious so I'm feeling a lot more upbeat than I was, plus a holiday to look forward .

lady and bushy wishing you both lots of luck and sending positive vibes your way. Who else is about to start IVF or IUI? beaky, hb, barking good luck with your various appointments too.

Have a good week everyone!

Arr feather you're ace- go team!! Know exactly what you mean about not being cut out for it. It does seem such a stress. Your poor sister's friend, seems so cruel to get them out safely then lose one. I did read that the risk of losing a twin compared to a single baby is far higher. Ah well, we've got to try whilst we can and use all avenues then if if doesn't work we can be happy that we had a go and be thankful for what we've got. In the spirit of enjoying what you have I've just enjoyed some Brie, French stick and a small glass of French cider, well why not, I can and I shall. Even so I am trying to eat well so had spinach,watercress salad and some fruit. I think the cider has monged me out. Thought I'd do some school work this Arvo ( which I've successfully avoided thus far!). We're off to the theatre later and a nice meal out..( in the spirit of getting out there and enjoying our child free life) Now I've had my cider I should probably not have a glass of wine with dinner or should I..
( feel like I have good and bad angel on my shoulders!!)

lady ha ha you druggie!isn't that what they gave michael Jackson? I'm all up for being out of it and a bit spaced!! Fingers crossed for your phone call, must be a bit unnerving and must make you feel like you're putting everything on hold, trying to stay close to the phone.

parsley yay for holiday! have a fab time.

Yes, that's Michael Jackson's 'magic milk!'
12 embryos, bit upset about fertilization rate and not very hopeful but nothing I can do about it now.

Try not to get hung up the fertilisation rate, Lady; I can't admit to having read widely on the subject but it just seems to be just a game of bloody luck. I had great fertilisation but they told me that wasn't really significant and it was what happened next that was important. I hope your next phone call is good news.

lady what happens now? Is it et on Monday? Very best of luck for that. I'll be keeping everything crossed for you.

Bushy sounds like your appointment went very well yesterday! Fx for Tuesday. You are right with what you say about everyone having struggles, it's just often you don't know about it. And I do think some people are very resilient too, my dh certainly is. Not that that is always a good thing. He admitted to me for the first time in our ttc time that it's playing on his mind!

Feather I'm so sorry to hear about your friends' sister's baby, she must be devastated. I agree with you, when does the worry and stress end. Sometimes I do feel like giving up but for some reason my actions don't follow my mind! How's your wedding prep coming along?

Hope you are feeling a bit better parsley have a nice meal and nice wine maybe? It helps me!! Ha.

Tiger have an amazing holiday and enjoy the sun! I'm totally jealous

Barking I hope your journey is going well! It's so long! Safe trip.

Happy sounds like you have been busy with wedding prep! Is there much left to do still?

Dh and it have been checking out bathrooms today So going to have sparkly and a good film tonight to cheer me up! Hope everyone else is having a good weekend.

Has anyone heard how RP is getting on? Or RP if you are reading, how did basting go?

Hello all!

Wow it has all been going on.

Tiger, enjoy! And barking, sounds as though it's been good!

Lady but - sorry, dim question - is that not 12 potential babies? When will they try to put one in?

So.... I am basted! not convinced it has done anything though.

We dtd Weds the 16th which was CD14 and went to DPIL on the Fri. Basted that night. It was totally undramatic. DH made me turn my back while he did his thing, passed me a cup full of cocksnot his product, and I kept it warm between legs for a bit so it went more liquid, whizzed it up in a syringe and, er, deposited it is actually surprisingly hard to aim for one's cervix. Who knew?

So AF due any time from Tuesday on. Think it may be brewing but hard to tell. Ordered some more reusable sanitary towels just in case

Anyhow should have said, didn't post last weekend as PIL internet down, and then got back on Weds to full on crazy work week, inc discovering on Weds that on Fri I was supposed to be making a 30 minute pres to my entire dept. Lovely! Went fine though, as luckily I quite like blathering on to an audience

rp you sound like the Nigella of the ttc world! I so so so so so hope it works, not only so you get the BFP but also just cos it'd make such a good story!

Feeling much better, thanks for the encouragement everyone. tiger it's def the post AF downer, happens every blooming month!
No wine or fancy meals tonight, just the good old reliable OREO ICE CREAM! Seriously, you girls need to get on board with this stuff. It's an orgasm in a tub!

Parsley I'm tempted to go to co-op to get some ice cream now! I've caved on the no alcohol front and I'm having a G&T (got to keep my fluid intake up after all to avoid OHSS!)
RP sort of, but there's a high attrition rate for embryos. At an IVF open evening we were told that 40% will make it to 5 days, in our last cycle just one out of 11 made it. Well done with the turkey basting! Maybe if you have some spare you can also try the 'special omelette' method....
Feather, sorry about your friend's sister's baby.
Beaky I get a phone call tomorrow (day 2). Last time, at that stage they said there were, "too many good ones to choose from" and we would definitely wait for a 5 day transfer. In hindsight, though, my embryos started deteriorating on day 3 so I'm not sure what we'll be doing this time.