Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Conception

When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

The Berries: Projecting the sausage signal and chasing rainbows whilst chanting FUFC in the hunt for that elusive BFP (thread 19)

977 replies

happylass · 28/03/2014 18:24

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

OP posts:
beakybeak · 21/04/2014 14:56

Lady sounding good for this cycle so far, shame about having to wait a bit longer but it all sounds promising. How are you feeling about it?

Because I hope you are ok, sounds like you had a rough day yesterday. Hang in there til Friday for your appointment.

Sorry for AF arriving Parsley strange about your blood test result not being mentioned as low oestradiol, maybe they weren't concerned as all the others were ok? When is your next appointment? If it's a while try seeing your GP?

Nice to see you again otters hope the new job is going well! Sorry about your friends pg announcement, it is hard so don't worry and don't feel guilty I'm sure she would understand. Does she know what you've been through? I do pt 3 times a week now and feel so much better for it, I think it helps with stress levels and I'm definitely not as crabbit as I was!

My FC rang this afternoon, they are happy to go with a cycle of iui still (phew) and take it from there. Dh has to do a jizz cup ASAP and then we can go in for an appointment. At least I feel like I have a plan again now. I'm trying to look at this all as a means to an end and in the berry spirit of fuck this shit, I'm trying to focus on the other parts of my life more!

ladybunnikins · 21/04/2014 16:46

Parsley, I know it's easy to say but try not to stress about one result, wiki says you are within the normal range for either the follicular phase or the luteal phase. I think they are more interested in the progesterone on the day 21 test, which can be low if the test hasn't been timed properly to be 7dpo. If you are not ovulating then yes, PCOS is a possibility but E2 levels aren't part of the diagnosis criteria, have you had a dildocam yet? What is your LH/FSH ratio and testosterone level?
Something to talk about at your FC appointment anyway. Plus, PCOS seems to be a relatively good diagnosis to have, clomid worked for Boom and Bunny and Gill didn't have to inject for long because PCOSers respond quickly to stimulation drugs.
Otters, commiserations, it sounds like you handled it pretty well, good luck with the PT!
Beaky I'm OK, more annoyed that I have to change all my work plans now! Don't think I'll be able to take much time off after transfer now due to work commitments. Great news on the IUI!

Parsley2506 · 21/04/2014 17:32

(totally un-MN and majorly hormone driven hugs for lady). Thank you for the advice, I got myself in a right tailspin. IIRC I had the E2 test same day as fsh/lh which would've been day 2/3, not 7?

My FSH was 5.8 iu/L and LH 4.3 iu/L, which the reference guide on the notes seems to indicate is normal for the follicular phase.

Maybe I am in a stew over nothing. I've been getting clear peak days on my CBFM (let's just ignore this crazy cycle) although I do get way more more 4 'high' days which might suggest I have elevated LH throughout my cycle which could be PCOS?

Argh, I think I need to stop worrying about it. I am due another day 21 test this month (if I can work out when the hell 7 days before my period is) which will hopefully confirm I am not broke.
I vaguely recall the FC telling me last year that she didn't really care if I had PCOS or not as long as I was ovulating (which she thought I was). I'll definitely bring it up again in July tho!

Right, sorry for the me, me, me post. I hope your Easter eggs continue to hatch nicely this week lady!

beaky fantabulous news! Glad they finally backed down, and I hope you prove that silly nurse totally wrong about IUI success rates!

And finally yaaaaaaaay otters! I'd been worrying you'd abandoned us forever. Sounds like you're having a proper hectic time, how many weeks left till the wedding now? Well done on handling the other night like a champ, it's a special kind of crappy when you're happy for someone else's good news and simultaneously bereft at your own circumstances. Have a GF Cake.

BecauseIsaidS0 · 21/04/2014 18:19

beaky, thanks for asking. It's been a combination of things. A friend said something about MN the other day that indicated he knows I'm me, and while nothing I write here is a secret, it made me feel a bit...weird. I considered name changing or even stopping using the forum, but I like it here, I get support from people who understand and it stops me from constantly chewing my DH's ear Grin.

lady, yup we won't be going for medical intervention (at least that's how we feel now; for all I know either of us could change our mind tomorrow). Lots of reasons but I'm not going to go into them because what's right for us is not necessarily right for other people, and I've got good friends going through it at the moment and I don't want to be anything less than fully supportive.

Parsley, my friend with terrible (and I mean terrible; periods only every few months) PCOS is now the owner of a beautiful big bump!

BecauseIsaidS0 · 21/04/2014 18:20

PS I'm teary for no reason today...AF on its way for sure.

ladybunnikins · 21/04/2014 19:47

Because that must have been really freaky, I'm sure I say loads of things that would out me. Why would he be reading this thread? Wasn't there a berry who did know you in real life?

Parsley2506 · 21/04/2014 19:48

because how awkward to say the least. This place really has become my sanctuary of sorts and while (like you say) nothing I write is secret, I would feel very exposed if a friend a) knew who I was on here and b) hinted that they knew. Is he a trusted friend?
I hope your follow up on Friday is positive, I'll be keeping everything crossed for you both, and also that you're not too glum today. The pre AF days are always the most dangerous tear wise although I've managed to not feel teary at all today, despite the witch dashing my foolish hopes. I even kept a poker face while my best friend got all emotional on my behalf on Friday. Maybe I am turning to stone slowly but surely!

All thoughts of PCOS banished for now - I have half a bottle of Pinot Noir to finish and The Princess Bride to watch! Easter Grin

tigerdog · 21/04/2014 20:33

parsley I seem to also work myself up in to a frenzy about what could possibly be behind the ttc issues. I think it is all part of being the kind of person who likes a strategy! Your results sound like they are in the right ranges though. Anyway, definitely time to grab that Wine and relax Easter Wink. There is also half a bottle of Pinor Noir in my kitchen.....hmmm....

Because I'm not sure how I would feel if anyone in real life read my posts on MN and knew it was me! I consider it a safe haven for things that I wouldn't otherwise discuss in RL! Hope you're not feeling too down. I too am prone to being teary pre-af, although I seem to be having the post af blues too today, for absolutely no reason.

Hello otters glad to hear the job and wedding prep is going well. Sorry about the baby announcement. Exercise is a wonderful distraction and the satisfaction of getting fit is a bonus!

good news beaky!

lady glad to hear the eggs are growing!

Am back from our break with OH's family. Lovely as it was, I am glad to be home. MiL clearly thought my going gluten free was a load of nonsense, and this seemed to spur her on to buy only food that I couldn't eat!

Thanks all for the job advice, will go to the interview and see where it leads!

Gillster · 21/04/2014 21:40

Hey Otters, glad you have returned. I can sympathise with the pregnancy announcement, my BIL & SIL announced that they were 10 weeks pregnant yesterday. It wasn't a massive surprise but hard to take nonetheless. Had to endure hours of baby talk times two as we visited both sets of DH's parents with them in tow. They totally know about our situation but didn't seem to think that all the baby talk might be a bit hard to take. I've told DH that we'll have to keep future visits to a minimum as I don't think I'll be able to cope mentally particularly if we have a failed IVF cycle over the summer. The PT sesh is a great idea. I have two sessions a week and I swear it's the only thing keeping me sane at the moment, although did think I was going to die during Friday's sesh!

Slow but steady IVF progress is good Lady. It's a bit of a pain in terms of making other arrangements but I'm betting you're going to have some great quality eggs. Everything still crossed for you, Bushy and HB.

Boo to AF Parsley and shame on her turning up 3 days late just to mess with your head. I can't add any insights into your results but Lady deffo knows her stuff.

Yay to the IUI Beaky. Will this be fairly soon or will there be a waiting list?

Hello to anyone else I've missed.

greatbigbushybeard · 21/04/2014 22:58

gilster hugs, that must have been hard to take. You would think people would tone it down a bit if they know you're exp problems. otters that must have been difficult too esp when you've had a few wines. Well to add to announcement w/e we got a text from friends we were visiting today warning us that his sister, who would be at gathering,was pg. My dh was a little miffed at the tone of the message as if we're lepers and have to have pity. Unfortunately that's part of the deal when you tell people you're having ttc problems. Anyway, this announcement completes my triumvirate of announcements! It wasn't too bad, my dh congratulated them and I asked a few questions but nowhere near what I would have asked before all of this got so difficult. I find that a quick congratulation and chat then onto other things helps.

We drove back and chatted about how we should just get on and enjoy things and dh said that although this hasn't worked out the way we planned we still have a lot to be thankful for. Our friends are camping in May bank hol and offered for us to go, we think we might as well as the Ivf drama will be over then and it'll be something to look forward to either way. Also, in the spirit of fuck this shit, then why not!!

lady really interesting reading about your situ! May well be happening to me soon! I'm going to have the 'chat' with my boss tomorrow. Easter Blush

because mn is totally a safehaven. I felt so bad for our recent berry who had to leave because of her partner reading her posts. I do mention some of the funny things on here to dh so he could, in theory, look this up and read it all but tbh I think he has better things to do. It's a bit peculiar that a man is on mn and also that he's hinting to you. Just seems a bit weird. Do please stay on here and don't change your name, hopefully he'll lose interest. After all there are thousands of people that use this site and any one of them could be similar to you. Maybe you should say to him oh no, I don't do mumsnet, netmums is more my thing or just make a big thing of how boring you find social media and how your friend who posts on online forums is a right dweeb, that should throw him off.

parsley like others have said try not to worry too much about one result! our bodies are everchanging so one result doesn't mean doom. Also over googling does not help.

In the spirit of the berry revolution I had a half a cider today and a Wine. I also ate all the squishy, creamy and blue cheeses off the board that old pregger pants couldn't. I also hopped (and fell off) our friend's child's space hopper- in your face ttc. Vive la revolution!Easter Smile

BecauseIsaidS0 · 22/04/2014 08:15

Hello berries, my friend is really rather lovely and he has a legitimate reason to be on MN (I'm trying to preserve his privacy) so there is nothing strange about it - I guess it is just that my writing style is distinctive and the details I've shared in real life match, so it wouldn't really be too difficult to realize it's me - already happened with one berry and a friend on the SB board!

I've had an insane long weekend of Wine, Cake and Easter Biscuit so now I feel I need to get back on track, not because I think I've got any sodding chance this month, but just because I'm feeling rather unhealthy.

I am, however, thinking of 'quitting' TTC. The excitement is long gone, the monthly disappointments are getting to me and maybe I just need to be thankful for what I've got, which is a lot, and move on.

happylass · 22/04/2014 14:18

Afternoon all. Loving how rebellious you lot have become in my absence. Count me in. Up the revolution! Grin
Got back last night from a lovely Devon/Cornwall break. Had a nightmare on the roads though. Ran in to 2 accidents yesterday so the journey back took over 5.5 hours. DP is not the most patient at the best of times. Yesterday it was like being stuck in a car with a cross between a tantruming toddler and Victor Meldrew for almost 6 hours. Not fun!!
Hope everyone is doing ok. I've been trying my best to keep up with happenings but Internet signal wasn't the best at times so apologies if I've missed anything. Lady all the very best for a plentiful supply of eggs. Because sorry to hear that you're having a tough time. Would you consider taking a break rather than giving up completely? For the 5/6 months we stopped TTC before Xmas I totally felt like I'd been given my life back. No temping, no OPKs, no analysing every cramp or twinge and I didn't have a clue where in my cycle I was. Whilst it was lovely to have that break I still feel that the end result will be worth all this stress and heartbreak and, that once we all hold our babies in our arms, we won't give this TTC shit a second though.
Hope everyone else is ok. Nothing at all to report here. Not exactly sure what cd I'm on but we totally missed OV this month with DP being away so we're not even in the game at the moment. Must try harder next month!

OP posts:
winohhh · 22/04/2014 14:21

Lady, glad things are looking good, fingers crossed things continue to go well!!

Beaky, great news about iui. I'm hoping this is your ticket!

Sorry about all the announcements,otters, gill, bushy, and anyone I've missed. It's such a complicated bunch of emotions.

Parsley, I can't add anything re: oestradil I'm afraid. My only run in with it is around fsh (if you have high estrogen it can mask a high fsh) but this doesn't seem to be what you're dealing with. Sorry AF got you.

Because, sounds like you're making some tough decisions. Hope you're doing ok.

winohhh · 22/04/2014 14:22

Sorry about your traffic nightmares happy!

winohhh · 22/04/2014 14:23

Viva la revolution!!!

beakybeak · 22/04/2014 15:51

I am loving Vive la Revolution! Apologies for spelling if this is wrong!

Because you do sound like you are having a very hard time, maybe as happy says, a break might help? Wine and Thanks for you. I do find mumsnet somewhere I feel I can say what I want about ttc and get great support, I don't know what I would do without it but I do sometimes wish it was more private! But then I wouldn't have found you all!

Happy glad you've had a lovely time, shame about the traffic though. Do you still have another week before you are back to school?

Thanks win I have my fx for iui too. Where are you in terms of your cycle? Sorry if you have said I've found it difficult to keep up with no wifi!

Berries, I am confused re my AF. I thought it had arrived on Saturday 11dpo as there was bright red blood first thing. Since then it's been spotting on and off with a little red sun/Monday morning, none today but a little spotting again. I usually get really heavy flow with cramps around 14dpo and spot for about 5 days before. I think it's just running late or maybe I got my ov date wrong this month but it's a total headfuck either way. Easter Confused

Parsley2506 · 22/04/2014 16:04

beaky could it be IB? With my BFP I had one off mini bleed followed by a few days of spotting. Just sayin...

winohhh · 22/04/2014 16:32

I'm CD5 beaky. Just waiting... AF still here so not much to do. Fingers crossed that a different cycle for you means something good!! What a headfuck though! !

happylass · 22/04/2014 19:11

Vive la Révolution is definitely going in the next thread title! Yes Beaky we're off this week too. Though I've got a ton of schoolwork to do plus the wedding invites to get sent out so it's not going to be a very restful one (She says whilst lying on the bed having done absolutely nothing all day! Grin)

OP posts:
beakybeak · 22/04/2014 21:29

I don't think so Parsley it seems a bit much. I feel a bit af-y tonight so it will probably arrive in the morning Sad honestly what a stresser this whole business is.

Happy enjoy your last week off, screw the school work Grin but maybe do your invites!

BoodleDoo · 22/04/2014 22:16

Hello! Hope everyone had a nice long weekend. (Well, apart from those of you getting walloped with pg announcements - grrrrr!)

Happy - I tried to some school work today. It was minimalist, shall we say?

Sigh, mumsnet is, indeed, a little bit exposed for the whole wide world to see. If only there were another website which could provide us with a private group option...

(listen carefully and somewhere in the distance you may hear the whispered words of 'face' and 'book'...)

greatbigbushybeard · 22/04/2014 23:35

because it sounds rather final to say you're quitting ttc but I know what you mean about bring grateful for what you have. It's a very personal decision. However I think it depends how far you take ttc. happy said she felt so much better for having a break as she was temping, ov sticking, analysing etc. Now I think if you are ttcing in the heavy weight league like happy then yes, no wonder you are fed up, all that effort and worry would get anyone down. Do you think perhaps there's a case for a more relaxed approach e.g. not preventing but still having lots of sex around fertile times? I was ov sticking and to be honest it was just another thing to fit into my day, and didn't really help. Emma cannon's book 'total fertility', which is a very good, reassuring read, says to avoid ov sticks as it just adds pressure and makes people restrict when they have sex. She says that the one thing you can do to boost your conception chances is to gave more sex more often. Anyway just a thought, hope you're ok.

Well I'd did it, I told the head today. He was really lovely and said how exciting for me! He was very good about time off too and wished me luck. He also said his lips were sealed and the matter would not go further than us. Felt rather relieved.

Ivf question:Did anyone else find that they had loads of left over, unused needles from each new pen box? Also what do you do with the old pen? I've now got two left over ones that I haven't thrown out yet as wasn't sure I could put them in normal rubbish but I take it it can't go in the sharps bin? How did you get rid of the sharps, did you take them to fc appt and bin there? Sorry if some of the questions seem a bit dopey!

boodle you do make me laugh but the words face and book just don't do it for me. I prefer this as feel fb is a big minefield of who to have and not as a friend and a potential source of constant baby/ child reminders too. If there is a berry group on the thing we won't mention, don't you all now know who each other is?

Can totally relate to school work avoidance as that was me last week! I would say don't leave it all to the last minute as that sucks even more!

barkingtreefrog · 23/04/2014 01:52

Just checking in briefly so apologies for not name checking everyone, wifi here is sporadic and very slow/restricted!
So far we've had torrential rain, gales and the tail end of a cyclone. Only one day without rain and that was my edd. Unbelievable. Was quite nice it happening like that though, blue skies to cheer me up.
boodle I've left the bookface group as it's just like the rest of fb now - full of bumps and babies!!

ladybunnikins · 23/04/2014 06:36

The ratio of TTCers to diffed/mothers on the FB group does seem to be skewed at the moment, that's why we need some more members!
Bushy, yes, loads of spare needles, I chucked them in the sharps bin along with the used pen. Could offer them to the FC for teaching purposes. The FC will take your sharps bin if you take it to them.

beakybeak · 23/04/2014 08:45

Lady are you in for another scan today? Not sure my memory is the best!

bushy your head sounds great and what a lovely reaction! You must feel a lot better about work now?

barking hope the weather is not spoiling anything for you!

I still haven't had proper AF, no cramps or anything, totally confused and very emotional (extremely teary) which wasn't helped by poas and getting bfn this morning. Don't know what is going on Sad