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The Berries: Projecting the sausage signal and chasing rainbows whilst chanting FUFC in the hunt for that elusive BFP (thread 19)

977 replies

happylass · 28/03/2014 18:24

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

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greatbigbushybeard · 06/04/2014 22:33

Fair play beaky for not falling off wagon?I'm afraid I've gone down the mini egg/ wine route!! Although stayed off the mini eggs tonight!! I've now watched the whole of series one of my mad fat diary- brilliant!! Gotta pace myself with series two. God bless 4 od.

nolly3 · 06/04/2014 22:41

Hey all, hope you all had good weekends. I think you're right about af causing more heartache than lack of kids, bushy I'm usually ok, apart from the last 2-3 days of a cycle. Ah well.

First night of Clomid went well except for palpitations in the middle of the night-I was dreaming that I saw a dolphin (we were on the Welsh coast) and I git excited which woke me up. Such a dork. So, could have been side effect? Or equally could have been the gin...

BoodleDoo · 06/04/2014 23:07

Bushy, I'm really jealous that you have all of season 2 ahead! That show just really struck a chord with me and I'm very sad that it has finished. Definitely made even better by the wonderful soundtrack though!

FeatherFeather11 · 06/04/2014 23:24

hi all! Quick one as I seem to be ovulating (!!!) but just to let you know that I didn't find anything else as hard as I tried. I'm going to sleep on it, but I think I'm going to go for the primrose and then sell it afterwards. Thanks so much for all the advice and encouragement! I'll stop boring you all with dress drama now.

barking great news re your LP! Woo hoo!

nolly I had clomid dreams too - apparently quite common.

Mmmm...cherry crumble! Yes please!

Gillster · 06/04/2014 23:25

Great news Barking about your cycle and only a week to NZ - yay!

Feathers I'm sure the dress is gorgeous but I'd only get it if you have money to burn. £3-4k for approximately 10 hours of wear seems a little pricey to me but that will be the accountant in me talking! You may be able to resell it but it will be for a fraction of the price. I guess it's all about where you'd prefer to spend your money (my preference was on a kick ass honeymoon). For me I just couldn't justify spending so much on a dress for one day. Have you looked at any of the online wedding dress sites? My dress was made in China in about a month (we had 3 months total to plan the wedding). I chose the style and sent in the measurements and think it was around £180-£200 once I'd paid the import duty. I then spent a further £100 for a seamstress to do the final tailoring which was totally worth it. It was a bit of a gamble as I didn't even try anything on beforehand but it all worked out great. Afterwards, I gave the dress to the charity shop.

Remember the wedding is the start of the rest of your life together and shouldn't be centred around the dress. I say that having just been out with DH celebrating our 2nd anniversary together. Like I say if money is no object then go for it but if you think that you might have to pay for IVF treatment in the not too distant future then maybe save your money for that. Hope I didn't come across as a bit of a killjoy, just wanted you to think with your head for a bit rather than your heart. I can see why you'd just want to go all out after everything that has happened.

Hello everyone else. Very envious of you teacher berries on countdown. AF turned up this morning on CD40 which is quite long for me but this is the first cycle after the IVF so I think my body was just trying to get back to normal. Have 2 months to go before the polyp op. Not particularly hopeful of any FUFC but will try and get back on the shagwagon in the next week or so with a vengeance!

FeatherFeather11 · 07/04/2014 07:23

Timely wake-up call, gill - the thought that the dress costs as much as a private round of ivf is a bit of a reality check. Confused - but as I said last night, I'm really starting to bore myself with all of it so think I've hogged enough thread space on that topic now!

I seem to have ovulated very late again (cd42!) - not sure what it all means or if it's even possible to get preg, but dtd anyway. Again: Confused

Have a lovely Easter break lovely teacher berries! I'd be really jealous if I didn't know how bloody hard teacher work - still, a Monday morning lie in sounds lovely!

BoodleDoo · 07/04/2014 17:21

Feather, my SIL fell in love with a really expensive dress and then she went to a regular bridal shop, tried on loads, really liked a sale dress. She went for sale dress (she looked fab in both) and she said she was so glad as it saved do much money and she didn't have the stress of keeping it perfect to sell on. Had lots of lovely outdoorsy photos so it got a bit muddy!

Bottom line...I'm in the 'save the money for something else' camp...sorry!!! Grin

Oh, and be really careful with getting the cheap copies from overseas. I've seen some bloody awful ones! Problem is you don't know until it's too late!

BoodleDoo · 07/04/2014 17:22

Disclaimer - I do have bridal industry links from my previous life!

FeatherFeather11 · 07/04/2014 17:27

Oh god, did I kill the thread??

FeatherFeather11 · 07/04/2014 17:30

X post boodle ha ha! Well, I took the day off work and I've found an alternative (I think) much cheaper - but not cheap - and totally different! Waiting for my best woman to turn up so I can show her, and then I'm slamming my credit card down (I hope) - it's not even a wedding dress - it's designer and short and the shoes that go with it are spectacular!

Parsley2506 · 07/04/2014 17:43

Intriguing feather! Pic? At the end of the day you're the only one who knows how much is too much and whatever you pick you'll look gorgeous, brides always do!

Quiet in here today! I've had the day off after a spectactular Wedding yesterday. We booked the day off knowing we'd need it to recover but I am still sort of disappointed we've spent the whole day lazing about - days off are precious!
Fell off the dairy/wheat free bandwagon in spectacular fashion, but it was so worth it. They had the most amaaaaazing cheese board! Also trying not to berate myself too much for getting so sloshed when I'm theoretically 4dpo. With this crazy early OV I doubt I've got the lining for pg this cycle so no going to fret about it.

barkingtreefrog · 07/04/2014 18:10

Good decision feather, if that's what you've gone for - sounds like one you could wear again which would be a bonus Grin . I intend to wear my wedding dress to the next wedding we're going to despite the fact that the majority of the guests were at ours.

Just found out I'm leading the twilight first week back. Marvellous. (for the non teacher berries that's teacher training, but I'm doing the training not being trained).

kamikazecyclist · 07/04/2014 18:21

Feather, great news on the new dress. Especially if the shoes with it are amazing. I love shoes.

beaky, well done for sticking with the diet and Parsley, don't beat yourself up about enjoying the cheeseboard. Am glad it was worth it.

I am going to say goodbye lovely ladies. It was great to have found you but unfortunately, I think I'll have to go. After a very long conversation with DP last night he insisted on looking at my MN conversations. I said no and didn't want to tell him my username but he just went ahead and worked it out anyway. So, I feel like a, I have betrayed your trust and b, this is no longer my 'safe' place. I have thought about a name change but he has already said that I have to make it less obvious to him otherwise he'll just google anyway when there is a moment when he is upset with me/ angry. He didn't get that this is not me keeping secrets from him - which is what he was afraid of - but me having a kind of diary which answers back and gives me support. I don't want to go through the whole name change thing, finding something witty that makes me sound as if I had the slightest idea of British humour (or any kind of humour for that matter) and then always feeling that I have to watch very carefully what I say so as not only not identify myself to people who might know me a little but also to him who knows me quite well. I think it is perfectly acceptable that this thread was my space which I didn't have to share with him. He thinks I am overthinking anyway and doesn't want to enable that by talking to me about all my crazy thoughts/ anxieties about the ttc thing. But I just feel I cannot have this space any more. He begrudgingly accepted that it wasn't right to work out my username and promised he wouldn't read what I write again but I know him well enough to know that it would be too tempting for him.

Anyway, just to finish off while we did have the first FC appointment today, we are not much wiser. There was a mishap and we couldn't get his SA results. I was very upset about this in the morning and he felt we argued and therefore is now extra-stressed about not having done all the work he meant to do and just generally miserable. Me trying to appease him by saying I promise to be care free the rest of the month when we are on holiday because there is nothing we can do anyway doesn't seem to appease him but simply make him more frustrated because he feels that's what he's been saying all along and I have made things worse by being stressed Sad.

The nurse was nice but said my ovaries look 'slightly polycystic', my other doctor who has looked at my ovaries and womb a lot of times never mentioned this. So, anyway, until we have his results we do not know anything new. They took my blood for the AMH test so I guess some things have been done but not the game-changing event that I had hoped it would be. I had a lot riding on this so the lack of SA results hit me really hard.

Anyway, sorry about the me-me-me update/ goodbye. I will keep up to date with your progress and I do really wish you all sticky BFPs asap. Thanks for your support so far. It has meant a lot.

PS: Feather, the biscuits were great. Thanks for the recipe Otters Flowers xxx

beakybeak · 07/04/2014 19:02

Ahh Kami, I'm so sorry you feel you have to leave, I really wish you all the very best for the future and I hope when you get your bfp you will consider dropping in to let us know, I hope it's very soon. Take care of yourself. You always know where we are Smile

Feather in sure any dress you get will be amazing! Any pics of this new one?

Parsley sounds like a fab wedding! I'd so love some cheese right now, or bread, coffee, chocolate etc etc etc! Wine is fine during the 2ww as I understand it, I don't think it has an effect until after implantation?! Other berries who know better will hopefully correct me if that's wrong!

Hope everyone else has had a lovely day Smile

happylass · 07/04/2014 19:21

So sorry you feel you have to go Kami. As Beaky said you know where we are if you change your mind. Good luck with your journey Thanks
Glad to hear you've found an alternative dress that you love Feather.
When I went to have bloods this morning the nurse mentioned that the rules have recently changed and we are now allowed 2 private ICSI cycles whilst waiting on the NHS (it was only 4 days ago that the consultant told us it was one go Confused). This has given us yet more to think about as the private clinic we looked at offers a package where you basically get the second cycle for half price. Of course none of this will matter when we get diffed naturally just in time to announce the good news at our wedding

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HampshireBlues · 07/04/2014 20:02

Kami sorry you feel you have to go; like the others I wish you all the best and you know where we are.

Happy sounds like some positive news especially if the clinic offers a special deal.

Parsley2506 · 07/04/2014 20:06

Ah kami, sorry you won't be actively with us on the thread anymore, but I hope you'll pop by when you get your good news. Once a Berry, always a Berry (I have no idea if that's a real motto, but it should be!). I hope you and your DH have a relatively stress free journey to parenthood.

happy I only realised a few days ago while idly obsessively checking up on IVF prices how many clinics do these BOGOF type deals. I saw one where you got a discounted package for 3 goes. Didn't say if you got a partial refund if the 1st one worked? I'd hope so at those bloody prices! Wink

I think my wagon falling may have backfired - I have a super sore and hard tum this evening after having a hangover bagel for lunch. Am I giving myself a wheat intolerance by trying to cut it out?!? Hmm

greatbigbushybeard · 07/04/2014 20:19

Oh kami that's rubbish. Really sorry that you're leaving, you seemed really lovely. It does raise questions doesn't it about this thread & who you talk to about it. I remember I stalked this thread for ages before I posted. I then posted but didn't tell my dh; a while later I did and he was actually really pleased that I had somewhere to go and rant, share etc especially as in RL after opening up to a few of our friends about ttc, we've since battened down the hatches and decided we wouldn't tell anyone about Ivf, this was more dh than me as he said he didn't want all the questions and then the reaction. So it means a lot to me to be able to have a place to come chat and also, I really like coming on here. I'm not big into social media but I do genuinely enjoy coming on here and catching up on everyone's news, it's not all ttc and actually all the dress talk, big fat diary etc is a nice distraction.

Now that dh knows I post on here, I suppose he could quite easily look it up but the way I see it is that he posts on lots of forums about man stuff and I wouldn't look at that and even if I did I wouldn't stop him. It's not my place to and I respect him enough that he's his own person. I suppose what you put on the internet will never be totally private and we do have to accept that.

Feather yay re cheaper dress! I think gilster was spot on with her comment about the money and the Ivf cost also crossed my mind too but wasn't sure what to say about it.

parsley mmmm cheese!!! Sounds fab and stop with the berating, I think there's nothing to worry about with drinking and ov etc, I second the it not affecting anything until later on, sure someone wise on here can put us straight. Also think of all the non ttc obsessed/aware women out there who've had children and recall how they'd been out and got really drunk and didn't know they were pg.

barkingrubbish re the inset leading! still at least you have some time to prepare for it.

BecauseIsaidS0 · 07/04/2014 20:24

kami, sorry to see you go but big Berry hug for you!

feather, link to the dress? My best friend got married in a short dress and sky high heels and she looked amazing.

beaky yes! wine is ok until implantation!

happy hoping for your FUFC BFP!

I went to see my endocrinologist today. My thyroid levels are really good now (he wouldn't share but said 'perfect') and he is not concerned at all about my high prolactin, low testosterone. Says that even just getting nervous about having blood taken could make that happen. And since we think I ovulate (positive OPK every cycle and EWCM in most cycles), he reckons his work is done until I get preggers.

I have some big life changes coming up that I think will help, but can't share here now (though I'm dying to!). I'm feeling very optimistic today, which is just fine as I've just had a positive OPK! Grin

greatbigbushybeard · 07/04/2014 20:33

parsley?i didn't know clinics did deals like that but considering what my nurse said about the first cycle being a bit of a try out, I'm not surprised.

Still got spotting today, checked the info with the nasal spray and it does say it might be a side effect and to talk to your doctor if you get any side effects. Tbh I'm not sure whether I should as it's a side effect and to be expected so not sure nurse will have a lot to say about the whole thing.

Had lunch with mum today, she asked about what we were planning on doing re ttc and I stuck to the stum policy and said we're just seeing how things go... Felt a bit bad not saying the truth but tbh it's prob going to be worth it to avoid the checking up etc. if it all goes a bit Pete tong it'll be a bit difficult not saying about it but tbh it's good sometimes to not talk about 'it' as sometimes I think 'it' has taken over everything and by talking about 'it' to everyone in real life it gives 'it' more precedence over everything else in our lives and I feel I need to get back to normal and to have conversations not centred around pg babies etc,just be a bit more normal etc.. Anyone get what I'm rather ineptly trying to say?

greatbigbushybeard · 07/04/2014 20:36

Oooh because you mysterious thing you!!

beakybeak · 07/04/2014 20:46

Ooo Because, dying to hear about your life changes, its sounds v.exciting! Thanks for confirming re wine/implantation Smile. Also excellent news from the endocrinologist, fingers crossed this is your lucky month!

I do sometimes wish that these threads were a bit more private, but then I wouldn't have found you lovely ladies if they were!

Parsley re the wheat, when I've been off it and then had some (or indeed too many carbs) I can tell as I feel bloated and v.full, but when I eat it regularly I think I just get used to feeling like that and don't notice it that much!

Happy that's a bit of positive news re the ICSI, fx you wont need it at all and you can make your wedding day announcement!

The puppy just jumped up on to my knee standing all over the laptop in the process, she typed a bit of a weird message of random numbers to you all...Grin

Also, does anyone watch friends? It seems to have been all of the baby/trying for a baby ones recently! Maybe I should up date my tv viewing Hmm

BecauseIsaidS0 · 07/04/2014 20:46

bushy believe me, I'm dying to share!

Re. the conversation with your mom, my brother and SIL have just had a first round of IVF and the whole freakin' family is on tenterhooks waiting to see if it will stick. I'm not sure I'd want that level of attention!!!

beakybeak · 07/04/2014 20:49

Yep Bushy I know what you mean, I like people not knowing so that everytime we meet they are not expecting an announcement which I think would add to the pressure! It def gives you a break from it all though.

tigerdog · 07/04/2014 21:07

because loving the positive outlook. Life changes sound exciting...here's hoping they are the catalyst to your bfp! I have to say that I am also feeling positive and like getting pg is possible after feeling a bit hopeless last month.

Same to you happy - bring on pre wedding diff!

bushy you did well to keep your ivf under wraps even after a direct question. I get what you're saying though - I don't like to talk about ttc in real life, which is why mn is so good and I'm grateful for the berries!

kami hope you're ok and that all goes well for you. My oh was very touchy about the whole ttc business to start with - didn't want to talk about it at all. I tell him about mn but not in detail, and he is ok with it all.

parsley getting sloshed and then spending a day mooching and recovering sounds like heaven to be honest! I have been good but shall throw myself off the wagon with gay abandon come the Easter weekend if when af arrives! Going away for a few days in the uk, then off on holiday the following week. Am on the countdown! Speaking of holidays is funky back from her Central American adventure?!

beaky I used normal crumble recipe but with oats and gf flour. It was yummy!

barking don't think about the training until after the holiday! Focus on the fab honeymoon!

nolly love the dolphin dreams. I think intuitively they are a very positive thing to dream of. A good sign Smile

I'm feeling a bit hyperactive this evening - not sure why. Did a great hot yoga class and still have excess energy! 6dpo I think but not sure I agree with ff which reckoned I ovulated on the same day as my positive opk. Still, we dtd a lot so hopefully covered all bases Grin