Drop all things contraband, we don't want you're OPK's here. Grab a cape, stroke the unicorn and reserve your spot in the pity Jacuzzi...It's JUST SHAGGING THREAD 21!!

[lil1ady]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce envy in other posters).

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

Icing = ovulating. Another autocorrect development!

Getting your Cape on = planning some serious pouncing on DH/DP

TWOT - Two Weeks of Torture!

The link to Part 20 is <a class="break-all" href="//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/conception/1961521-You-can-do-it-by-charting-analysing-testing-and-worrying-but-we-prefer-JUST-SHAGGING-PART-20?" target="_blank">here</a>

The current Grads Fred is <a class="break-all" href="//www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1817751-Just-Shagging-Grads-Fred-8-Roll-up-roll-up-all-Viroids-welcome" target="_blank">here</a>

The rather nobbish article in which we became a little bit notorious is <a class="break-all" href="//www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/the-dark-side-of-mumsnet-my-shocking-tour-of-the-websites-nether-regions-8905055.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a> <img loading="lazy" class="inline-flex mumsnet-emoji" alt="Grin" src="https://www.mumsnet.com/build/assets/grin-D7Eg_B6y.png">

Happy shagging shaggers!

Oh Lil that's tough news to hear. What would be the next step? IVF?

not really sure to be honest wil but from my limited research aka what I've learnt from the viroids it will be more tests for us both, lots of waiting, and then see. I think if everything OK with me it would be iui before ivf, but I've avoided too much Dr goofle input to be honest.

God it's the waiting that gets you isn't it? Probably harder than all the tests and procedures. I hope the doc has some decent answers for you when you speak. Xx

Wil that's probably because it was only a half hearted kick, after which I changed my mind and told you to sod the cleaning!

Sorry to hear about your DH swimmers Lil. That's really pants.

It's toooo early! Up for a work trip and I want to be in bed!

It's not looking good my end girls. Nips are hurting less and had terrible cramps last night. I'm just willing her to appear now tho!

Oh lil sorry about the swimmers! that's shit, are they seriously going to drag you out for more tests or will they be able to bypass that and crack on? X

Min - Isn't it weird how we're pleased when we get strange pains/odd symptoms whilst TTC (as it might be a good sign) and then sad when they stop...no normal person would be sad that their nipples no longer hurt, or be please when they feel like someone just stabbed them in the ovaries! TTC seriously turns you into a nutter!!!

(Not trying to say you're a nutter though, just that we've all gone mad with this TTC malarky. I for one was feeling a bit sad that my boobs/nipples weren't feeling as full/sensitive as they have been for the last 2 cycles, but now I'm rather pleased that I'm feeling the need to sleep bra-less cos my boobs hurt too much to sleep in a bra! The fact that they feel the same way as the last 2 BFN cycles might not be a good sign, but I can't help but hope this time might be different...). Obviously not symptom spotting!!! >naughty Spotti - someone give me a hooya!

minion what CD are you now? Are you going to POAS again soon or wait more?

spotti I am confused! Do you usually wear a bra to bed?

juniper officially cd36 now. Longest ever.
Nope, I'll hold out for ERTD which should be here between Friday and Monday coming.
spotti yep haha! Unfortunately the nips have become chafetastic again! Nice! X

fx still min!

juniper I'm glad u asked the bra question...I too was lol

Generally, yeah, I sleep in a bra. My reason being that I'm up early in a morning and it makes it tonnes easier to get dressed and sorted in the dark if I'm already partly dressed! I never thought it was weird until just now LOL.

Sorry to hear about the nips Min, but had to laugh at he word 'chafetastic', that is an awesome word!

Sleeping in a bra? Doesn't it feel like it's digging in? Assume it's a non under wired one?

Nope, no underwiring (my boobs aren't really big enough to need much support LOL).

• just had a chuckle at the autocorrect. It seems I've written the word 'nipples' a few times recently and the autocorrect tried to change 'nope' to nipples :p. The previous sentence would have said "nipples, no underwiring" he he.

min you are being very restrained with your stick-peeing, well done!

God I couldn't sleep in a bra either, except when bf to avoid soggy sheets. Are you still around red? How are you doing?

Ahh I see! I'm a DD at the best of times (without post icing breadstick 4-boob sitch), I def couldn't do it.
I'm very jealous, I want c cups max! Think the husband would have something to say on that matter. He's not a 'more than a handful is a waste' kind of bloke!
wil, it's more self preservation in all honesty. I'm ERTD cramping big style so fully expect her arrival soon.

your husband sounds like my partner min. I found it was fine to have bigger boobs when I was younger. Now that they're not quite where they were before, I'd like them to be smaller.

Mine got smaller when I lost weight which was good but a little disappointing - especially for DH! Still no bra to bed though. I like to be free as a bird!

You are being so good min, I know you say you are expecting her soon but how long will you give her??

It's my turn tomorrow, ERTD due according to cycle. Although, if I iced when I think then I would say more likely Saturday. Waiting is nearly over!

I'm going by the 24-36 hour rule after EWCM, so I reckon Monday. It's going to be a killer for sure this month. I know def I'm not pg tho, so that's a relief.

Well spotti you win points for being organised! I am quite a sweaty sleeper anyway so always need a shower first thing, wearing a bra would finish me off!

I am keeping my lips zipped minion...

Aww juniper I wish I had your optimism x

I think we need michonne along to make the final judgement...

It's such a waiting game isn't it? Drives me up the wall.

Minion, this cycle is mad! It's a full week since we were going to synchro pee!

I'm here I'm Here....

Min.... I still think there's something going on with you.. get peeing on that stick lady, just to put us all out of our misery!!

Sorry everyone else is having such a confusing / craptastic time. It doesn't get easier does it? I'm in the throes of a nasty ERTD, pain, cramps, dodgy belly - and I've been out of the office for 3 days on a course, when all I want to do is spend the day in the loo with a hot water bottle strapped to my belly.

Trying to muster up the energy to re-start temping, fill in Fertility Friend and get the new cycle under way, but I just can't face it.

I told my sister that I had been a day late so got my hopes up - she said "just forget about it, don't worry about it, don't get obsessed".... but..... HOW???????