All that she wants is A baby! The Berries searching for the 'sign' but never symptom spotting (honest), possibly using a vagina jack and trying to get a FUFC before boarding the IVF train (thread 18)

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The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

Oh, and the woman that took 7 years to get pg... she's now 60, this was before the days any iui or ivf was available on the nhs. Her gran helped them out to go private after they'd been trying so long. She had twins, then 9 years later conceived by accident - after all their troubles they didn't bother with protection!!

Hi all! Back after a few days in limbo land hosting in laws and doing some work.

I am feeling quite stupid and down because right now, my temps are weirdy, and in the absence of being able to rely on them I've started paying more attention to other things, such as EWCM. I've realised that I have this way before FF indicates I am ovulating. Also the EWCM occurs at a time when it would make more sense for me to OV given my cycles - ie about halfway through rather than 2/3 way through.

I have now started to worry that I have been dtd at completely the wrong time somehow for ages, and that is why no pg.......

Also I have an appt with my urologist consultant on the 31st and I am pretty sure he is going to say he wants to do further kidney surgery which could seriously stall any ttc in the next few months as we would have to take several months off whilst it healed.

There is also a tiny, traitorous part of my mind which is currently enjoying not having DC right now. Is that total heresy? Today I enjoyed being able to just go to an aerobics class and eat dinner at 9pm and not worry. I think I am just feeling resigned......

Right I will actually go back and read other people's news now and stop being so selfish!!

Boodle congrats on your pupo status!!

Barking and tiger are you feeling less stressed?

Merk are you still thinking about a home birth?

Not heresy at all rp - I often find myself thinking that life sans kids is actually pretty good (mainly whenever I see harassed/harried parent friends and even strangers on the street!). Doesn't mean we don't still want families of our own!

Perhaps try a few months of DTD every 3 days from the day AF leaves the building? It certainly can't hurt (just exhaust maybe!)

PS otters - happy 2 year anniversary to us!

Oh god, let's just call today "parsley whinging day".
One of my team just confided in me that she's pg. Literally didn't have a clue - she's moving abroad this summer so will be spared the final few months but at the moment feeling disgusted with myself for thinking of that first and then just that it's her and not me. My maternity leave would have started in a couple of months from now. I was going to be the first female employee to have a baby (now her). I just feel crap. No idea how I kept it together during our meeting and have to go through it again tomorrow when she informs the directors (and they, being men with kids, will no doubt go on and on about how great life with kids is). Then it'll be everyone in the company being excited (we're small and very close knit), with the odd pitying look thrown in my direction from those that know. I can't face it. I wish I could just disappear down a hole.

boodle Like Tom Hanks in Castaway?
I'm now imagining you with a head like Wilson...
Hurray for being PUPO btw!

I've got my FC on Friday, and in preparation, went to my GP yesterday to get copies of all the tests I've had over the years. The first lot were in May 2010, which means if I had got pg when I first started, I would have a school-age child by now!

Happy anniversary to us Parsley

Right, so the cm boosting pills are these ones here I have to say that they've really worked for me. I thought they wouldn't but they have. BUT, they might not work for others so please don't blame me for being a pusher of expensive snake oil

Thanks for the advice re potential new job. Barking I started my current job just before starting to ttc two years ago partly because of the good maternity package and the flexibility I would have had if I'd stayed upduffed. So I should probably cut my losses and take the less convenient post (if I'm offered it). It's within the same organisation so I'll retain the mat leave benefits which is nice.

Thanks for the reassurance about the OPK NotWithout, I get a bit freaked out around ov time and getting DP to do the business. But we gave it a good shot (arf) this month so now it's the stupid 2ww.

So today's dilemma - I promised myself I wouldn't drink from ov to -bfp- AF this month. I think I o'ed today and have a conference dinner with free wine this evening. To drink or not to drink....

Ladies today is Aphrodite Goddess of Fertility day and I'm due to OV any time - it must be a sign!!
www.cute-calendar.com/event/goddess-of-fertility-day/12334-world.html
CM pills look good Otters may try them once I get fed up of the vits. Get a decent amount anyway but it may improve the quality so why not?!? Hope everyone is having a good day. In work on my phone so will catch up properly later.

Parsley thanks. We can't dtd that often because of DH erectile ishoos, as he has to take a pill for it and also if we do it too often it causes him pain. So we have to pick our moments.

I'm sorry about your workmate. I've been lucky in not having any instadiffers around me but the looks of pity thing must be galling. But just keep focusing on you, and you will get there we all will!!

Boodle how are you feeling?

Rp what makes you think from your charts that you are Oing earlier?

Yeah, ok thanks! Amused by the idea of me being Wilson, sparechange!

I'm having phone issues and can't scroll back at all but sorry to hear of surprise pg announcements; they really are the pits.

Hi y'all!

Thinking of my PUPO bud! Long wait innit boodle?

parsley sorry about your work mate, a girl at my work just announced last week and I know I'd be in a right state if I hadn't been very lucky with our ivf, hugs!

bushy got your drugs? Are you doing short or long protocol? When should you start?

Erm why are you on the floor Boodle? Are you doing yoga? Has gravity suddenly become abnormally strong in your house?

Merk because I have realised that I get EWCM around now which is CD12/13. Given that my cycles are roughly around 26 or 7 days often, wouldn't that indicate that despite temps suggesting an OV date of around CD16, as they generally do, I am in fact OV earlier in the cycle and therefore missing the golden shag window???

Don't panic rp !!! (and thanks for asking, I'm feeling less stressed since the IUI plan).
Firstly, I get cm all over the place (I mean random days in my cycle not literally, er, you know..) so I don't read too much into it. I'd stick to opks and temping for a reliable indicator of ov.
Secondly, the swimmers can tread water waiting for the egg to land for a good 5 days, so if you've got cm on cd12/13 and dtd then, it's good timing for the egg dropping on cd16. But so is dtd on cd14 or cd15.

Parsley that sucks. My colleague has just had the baby. Everyone at work is talking about it but they stop talking when I walk in as they all know about my mc and saw me run out of her baby shower in tears. Another colleague is going on paternity this week, his baby was born prematurely and has been in hospital until now. Again, everyone is talking to him about it but stops talking when I walk in. He told me last week he might not be at a meeting on Thursday but didn't say why. Everyone seems scared of what might happen if they mention babies on my presence. Not that I'm not grateful they avoid the subject......

RP, my FC recommend using cm to identify ov and dont recommend temping, Ive not tried temping myself though but I do use the clear blue ov sticks and quite addicted to them! Have you tried them at all? Sorry to hear you may need kidney surgery too. I know exactly what you mean re enjoying not having kids, I would really miss my freedom! And as Parsley says, when you see others with difficult kids it's not really an incentive!!

Parsley, so sorry to hear about the surprise pg announcement, I hope the next few months til she leaves go v.quickly. Keep positive though, you will be the one announcing soon! I had a friends husband tell me today I need to have some kids soon - they've just had their 3rd. Well yeah, I would have one already if I got upduffed as easy as you guys. ffs.

Sparechange, good luck for your fc app on friday

Otters, I think alcohol is ok (in moderation - haha) until after implantation? Sure I've read that somewhere.

Happy, I hope the goddess of fertility is looking down on you! Its definitely a sign!

Boodle, I hope you're doing ok so far, still wishing time away for you

I have my fc appointment tomorrow, but annoyed at myself as Ive not really planned what I want to ask due to lack of time I think I need to check about low progesterone and the cyst they found and hopefully everything else was ok.

Gosh what a long post!! Sorry

Hello Berries, I've decided to come back.

How are things here at Berry HQ? Any BFPs?

We took a long time to get back to DTD after the IVF failed and ended up both getting dreadful thrush! Why do we bother? Oh, and I see we can add pictures now, so here is my fur baby.

x post Barking! Sorry about all the births at the moment, the stopping talking thing must be quite uncomfortable for you

barking must be very awkward at work. Glad you are feeling more positive at the mo

Good to see you pip you furry baby is cute!!!

Welcome back pip! What a cutey! I am just going to copy you in a bid to cheer myself up with a picture of one of our cats doing his best sexy car model pose.

Thanks berries, I knew I could count on you for some solidarity! Luckily the girl in q is lovely. She knew about my MC and has sent me a v sweet text this evening. I am sure there will be awkward and upsetting moments to come but hoping I can keep a lid on my unpredictable emotions for the most part, and as beaky says hopefully me soon (please please please). Barking while it's preferable to perpetual baby/pg talk the silences can be equally as stressful I find. I think it's just that I have a naturally cynical assumption that they're all pitying me, when I'm sure they're just trying to avoid causing upset!

rp ah I didn't know that. If only our bodies would tell us what they're up to, or maybe if we could send an Innerspace stylee mini spaceship up there to report back to us on when it's time to go. Why does it all have to be such a ruddy mystery!

beaky good luck tomorrow - make a list on the way there if all else fails. Hope you get some positives out of it.

Now, I am 9DPO but tempted to go for a bit of the old how's yer father just cos it's national fertility day! Couldn't hurt I suppose...

Pip! Hello!
Someone has clearly been shining the BerryTorch into the night sky this week. Or maybe it is the full moon?

Gorgeous fur babies Pipbin and Parsley!

Morning all - hope everyone is well. Loving the fur babies pics! Sorry to hear about all the pg announcements - it's hard when it's colleagues as there is no escape. At least with Facebook you can ignore it. My best mate had her baby 10 days ago so Facebook has been awash with photos and another friend (unexpectedly) announced his girlfriend was pg yesterday.

Welcome back pip. Hope you're well. Bloody thrush . I'm very prone to it, and alcohol generally seems to be the trigger.

Well, af is finally in the building - 5 days late and seemingly delayed by the hsg. It also doesn't seem as bad as usual . L

Hey Pip great to see you back. How's things with you?
Sorry to all those being clobbered with pg announcements. Got 3 preggos at work and I'm sure more to come. It's so hard to keep smiling when the scan pics come out
Good luck to those with upcoming FC appointments and have a good one everyone else.

Morning!

I totally understand the dilemmas ttc causes with jobs. I'm sick off my job and should have moved on at least a year ago, but have stuck with it thinking that I didn't want to start a new job then have to leave. Now with the prospect of ivf I'm thinking I don't want the stress of a new job with ivf. Argh.

RP sorry you might have to have kidney surgery. Hope it's not too serious.

Beaky, do you know why your FC don't recommend temping? Is it because it's not accurate, or because it adds to the stress of ttc?

Welcome back pip!!!

Afm, I think af is on her way. Still 'spotting' although more like light bleeding, got back ache and af type cramps, got a temp dip this morning. :( damn!!! I just wanted to get pregnant again!!! I think I will be particularly glum this time.