All that she wants is A baby! The Berries searching for the 'sign' but never symptom spotting (honest), possibly using a vagina jack and trying to get a FUFC before boarding the IVF train (thread 18)

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The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

Estradiol possibly Barking? It measures estrogen I think?!

Googling so far seems to support my concerns. Just read that progesterone levels of over 30 might indicate ovulation but over 50 indicates an ability to sustain a pregnancy.

And apparently LH and FSH should be the same? I don't know how close counts though.... .
Thanks beaky definitely could have been that!

Barking all I was told after my cd21 tests was that they looked for a figure of 30 to confirm ovulation so I'm definitely OVing. No mention of a figure to be able to sustain a pregnancy? I'm worried now! My results were 48, 50 and 33 (I think the last one was done too early as cd 21 fell when I was on hols).

Sorry happy, ignore me, I'm just desperately looking for a problem that I can then believe can be fixed!
Apparently progesterone levels can vary hugely cycle by cycle anyway.

Hmm thats interesting to know Barking, my day 21 was 23 I think, but def below 30, I haven't had a follow up yet so not been able to discuss it so Ill def be asking about that at my next appointment.
I know what you mean about looking for a problem, at least if you know whats wrong you can try and fix it. I find that so hard!!

It's definitely estradiol Barking, that's what they were measuring when I was stimming.

Step away from Dr Google Barking. No good can come of it!!
AF firmly in the building here. No great surprise seen as DP and I were in different parts of France to each other for shag week! So, what shall I try this month? Thinking of starting back temping with maybe a Zita West download thrown in for good measure? Any better suggestions?!?

Happy, I know, it gets to be an obsession...

I'm going to email the private fc. I don't think I'll manage to get my concerns across coherently in a phonecall.
I've been playing with my chart again and I've decided I'm not on my next cycle yet because I refuse to have such a short cycle given I haven't had enough blood yet to challenge a pantyliner (the red blood I had very briefly might have done if I hadn't gone to the toilet when I felt it, but it was one tiny gush and then nothing again) and last cycle I had 5 days of spotting followed by five days of bleeding with a temp drop. My temp hasn't dropped and I'm on day 5 of spotting so I reckon I might start bleeding more heavily tomorrow and am expecting a temp drop then. Either way I think I'm going to save my one last round of clomid in the hope that I can get my cycle sorted a bit more first. Spotting from 6dpo is not ideal!

When is your appointment beaky?

Definitely not still on google .
FSH < 9 iu/l; E2 > 250 pmol/l = Ovary is racing ahead in follicle development, and correct interpretation of the FSH result is not possible because the estradiol level is not basal.

Looks like my estradiol levels are too high. Won't bore you with everything else I've just read but it's interesting that side effects include insomnia.

Now I've really scared myself;
"Because high estradiol levels indicate poor ovarian reserve and poor response to fertility medications, you and your fertility doctor may ultimately need to discuss whether IVF with your own eggs is a viable option for you and your partner. You may need to discuss the possibility of using a donor egg with IVF."

I'm now stepping away from google......

morning! Still waiting for this fabled warm and sunny weekend to arrive so I can take the dog for a walk, but it is very grey and overcast here this morning.

barking you need to do as happy says and step away from Dr Google! Just make sure you are armed with all the questions about results, ranges and outcomes and what it all means in time for your FC appointment on Wednesday. The other thing it might be worth asking for if you don't already have them is a copy of any letters sent between the GP and FC. Mine copies them to me usually but you can request them and they do tend to give a bit more information then just the results alone.

happy temping and relaxation download sounds like a plan. Having had a break this month, I am going to get back in to temping and go for SMEP! Hoping that the hsg has cleared out any debris and this is the month . Positive mental attitude!

gil what's the latest with your op? Have you had a date through yet?

because do you think the fertility hypnosis is doing anything to help you relax?

Hope everyone else is ok!

In pushchair hell at Blenheim Palace.

Urgh! Poor Lady! I went to the park earlier and tried to ignore all the pushchairs and prams! The town I live in is rough, so it's usually horrible women yelling at their kids...

makes me wonder why I went....

On the fertility hypnosis front, my acupuncturist uses a CD (Kitty knows what I'm talking about) but it always sends me to sleep, even when I'm having electro-acupuncture. (Am I the only person who can fall asleep whilst being tortured with needles and electricity...?!)

Me again. Slight wobble on the positivity front. That'll teach me to be so optimistic! Best friend has just given birth and whilst I'm delighted for her, it does make me sad to think that in all the time she was trying, and has been pg and now given birth I've not even managed to get pg. Also she was a couple of weeks early so it took me by surprise a little bit to get the announcement - didn't have time to give myself a good talking to in preparation for the inevitable tinge of sadness. Anyway, just needed to get that off my chest. OH is away so just the dog for company tonight.

Urgh lady I feel your pain x

Happy weekend everyone, hope everyone is having fun.

Thanks for all the hypno/CD info, I think I might look into getting one to listen to. Although the mc was 3 months ago I'm actually feeling more depressed about it now and need to pull myself up from the pit of misery which beacons. I also need to curb my wine drinking which is increasing an awful awful lot. Hic.

Today I've mostly been smashing up all the tiles in the stinky old kitchen we've been putting up with since we bought the house last Nov (as a result of being pregnant ). A shiny new kitchen will soon be in situ! Well, in a 3 weeks all going to plan....

Urgh Tiger, that sort of heart-rending happy news always takes the wind out of my sails too. Keep your pecker up love.

I was meant to be going out for a friend's birthday drinks tonight but I have feigned illness. I'm generally feeling a bit down just now and the thought of being sociable really doesn't appeal. I sound like a right misery guts I know! Hope everyone else is being more social than me tonight!

Beckons not beacons. A beacon of misery might describe me quite well today though!

Sorry your feeling low, Otter, I imagine sadness from a mc will be just like any other grief; some days you'll feel ok and other days it'll be a kick in the teeth.

I went out to socialise last night and had two glasses of wine just so that people wouldn't get any "oooh, she's not drinking..." ideas. I didn't really want a drink - how ridiculous is that?!

boodle I usually do the same or just drink tonic which is convincing enough with ice and lemon! After a wedding last year when I wasn't drinking and about 20 people asked me if I was pg, I never let on now. I wouldn't dream of asking someone right out if they were pg - it is for them to decide when to say!

otters I shall indeed keep my pecker up! You too my dear - we'll give you a helping hand out if the pit of misery whilst trying not to fall in myself don't be too hard in yourself - getting over mc will take time and if a bit if wine helps then so be it.

Thanks boodle and tiger. I hear you on the not drinking thing. I know that my not going out this evening will raise a few is she pregnant again ideas. Urgh.

I'm just gonna kick back tonight with DP, order some Thai takeaway and watch some crappy movies. Much more fun than going out

Tiger, pretend drinking wouldn't work for me, unfortunately, as I'm not a big drinker at the best of times and am pretty set in my ways about what I drink (basically, white or pink wine...!). Pretending that I've got a G&T would have everyone wondering what the hell was going on!!!

If only more pubs sold shloer...!

Staying in is where it's at otters. I'm singing along to absolute radio 90's and making cushion covers. Rock and fucking roll Saturday!

Yes boodle developing a gin habit would probably raise a few eyebrows! I'm about to make a non alcoholic mojito. 3 weeks without a drink so far this time around and I'm dreaming of wine. the most annoying thing is oh has lost a few pounds simply through not drinking (and he is a skinny bastard anyway) but I haven't!! Damn it.

Sounds like one of my Saturday nights in tiger! I'm trying to crochet a massive throw, albeit very, very unsuccessfully. I have a drawer FULL of half completed crafty projects

I've always been a g&t gal I blame my mother, so at least I can fall back on that excuse . My downfall now is . I bloody love it!

That's exactly like my manlump, Tiger! As soon as he cuts down on the booze, the weight starts to shift. I, on the other hand, have gained about 8lbs since starting IVF drugs. I'm extremely pissed off as I struggle with my weight anyway and I have actually been eating pretty well, all things considered. I have also kept up my exercise regime (not a gruelling one, but better than nothing) and still huge weight gain. Grrrrrr.

Still no date for the polyp removal. Must have rung them about 6 times over the last couple of weeks. It's all guns blazing on Monday - this is not acceptable! The IVF success stats go way down once you turn 40 so they really shouldn't be pissing me about like this.

I can sympathise with Lady and Boodle about all the IVF good luck running out. I'm delighted for the pregnant berries but makes it seem less likely for it to happen to me.

Currently on the sofa, under the slanket catching up torturing myself with OBEM. DH is out with his old school pals.

Hope you get some answers next week Barking. Try not to torture yourself with Dr Google. Hope everything is still on course for EC next week Boodle. Hugs to anyone having a tough time at the moment.

Looks likely, Gill, although I've got a final scan to go first.

How can you stand to watch OBEM?! I can't bear it at all. I just accidentally saw the end of Titanic and that made me well up. Utterly ridiculous!!! Think the drugs are making me a bit emotional.

Good luck getting some answers on Monday - it's ridiculous that you're hanging around waiting; it makes me really grateful that all my treatment so far has been pretty swift and organised. It's just not fair when you've got enough stress on you already.