All that she wants is A baby! The Berries searching for the 'sign' but never symptom spotting (honest), possibly using a vagina jack and trying to get a FUFC before boarding the IVF train (thread 18)

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Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

Barking how's today been? Is the bleeding steady or what?

CD25 and not a sausage of a symptom so assuming it's AF time in 2-3 days....

Thanks for the optimism ladies but I'm not convinced . 6dpo today. Last cycle I started spotting at 8dpo. No idea for the bfp cycle as I stopped temping due to air travel and time zones etc.
I was at least holding out for a longer LP and less spotting with all the acupuncture. More spotting now. Not enough to need a tampon but enough to need a pantyliner, ie it's not just when wiping.

otters my consultant said take any bleeding at any time as CD1, but as bleeding usual other berries have been told different by their FC so now I do whatever the fuck I want...

I'm knackered, frustrated, and more than a little pi55ed off . FC a week tomorrow. Will prime DH to ask all the questions I want answers to but will probably get too upset to ask.

You never know Barking! Fx for you.

Funky it sounds like a tricky time coming up for you. Hope you get your bfp soon.

Hope everyone else is ok, will catch up soon. Off to eat as many pancakes as possible

Barking if it is AF then the FC surely need to be looking at your short LP? Is it your clinic that deny the possibility of any woman having less than a 14 day LP? I don't blame you for being peed off.

Thanks Beaky! Hope you're enjoying munching your pancakes! I'm still waiting for DH to come home from work before I make tea so I might leave the pancakes until tomorrow.

I'm at this moment sat here wailing. I'm so stupid. It's almost like I for some reason want to make myself feel miserable. I have always remembered the username of a girl who got her bfp in July on the same day as me. We were on the ttc 'buses' She was an instadiffer. I just looked up her username. I tried to stop myself but with no success. I soon found out that she gave birth last Thursday to a little girl. I've been pregnant twice as many times as her and yet I have nothing to show for it.

Screw my hostile uterus and DH's mutant sperm.

A big hug for you funky...a wail every now and again is perfectly normal. The ttc business is hard enough without the loss of mc to contend with. The thing that gets me is how lonely it all is...But a gentle nudge in the direction of the future and sending some positive vibes too.

I have just gorged myself on pancakes and am feeling slightly sick! Last indulgence and then on pre holiday diet - it's been a long time since I've gone on a holiday where the only activity is lying on a beach and I can't say I am quite bikini ready!

funky it is a load of bollocks, but please don't torment yourself. Going through a MC is so bloody awful and then the added agony of ttc issues, I completely understand how you're feeling but I wish you weren't feeling so low. I am trying to not let myself get upset these days. Oh there are still moments, but I sort of physically hoik myself out of them before they get their hooks into me. I just don't have the energy to contend with it all.
Let me hoik you back on to the YBR - we will get our sticky BFPs this year!

Watching Great British Sewing Bee and thinking I really ought to dust off the sewing machine MrP bought for me years ago that's never been used....

Oh, I'm sorry funky. It's such a kick in the guts.

Barking, still got my fingers crossed for you!

Thanks Tiger. It is a lonely affair. Thank goodness for the berries! Where are you off on hols?

Oops, I wrote my message and then left the laptop for a while to get tea on so cross-post with Parsley an Wino.

Parsley- I am half way hoiked back to the YBR. My bungee rope appears to have become entwined on a jagged rock. Keep hoiking! Due date was this weekend so think it's just a more tricky time than normal!

Win- How are you? Any more spotting? A negative test yet?

I got a squinter on a hpt yesterday funky. Hoping for a bfn soon. I'm all systems go for project temping and opk. I'm still spotting a bit so still unsure about whether to dtd or not. Although no signs of ov yet so no pressure yet!! Hope you looked after yourself this weekend. What a horrible time. :(

Ahh hugs funky. It's so difficult to keep yourself up all of the time. Keep moving forward though you will get your bfp. Tiger I agree too, ttc is really lonely.

Sorry lots of you are feeling glum tonight. (I nearly put feeling blue there, but then I remembered that we have a Blue in the form of Bluebirdy, and I very much doubt she wants you lot feeling her up, quite frankly.)

Anyway, I've got my head firmly buried in the sandpit that I have installed in the corner of Berry HQ. Do join me if you wish.

I find ttc awfy lonely too these days. I started out two years ago all naive excited and full of anticipation but now it just feels disappointing and a bit of a bloody slog. Many of my friends have had wee ones, and some are now announcing their second, since me and DP decided to go for it. It sucks. Big time.

In less self indulgent news, I've gorged myself on GF pancakes and drunk a bottle of very naice wine . DP has also decided that he'll sleep in the spare room tonight as AF makes me a nightmare to sleep beside apparently! (Little does he know it's all an act to get the big bed to myself for 2 days a month ) Clomid popping resumes tomorrow, woo-feckin'hoo.

Mmm, naice wine! There was a pancake competition at work today so I am pancaked out, in the best way!

Ttc is a lonely business, but much less so since I found you lot! Ahhhh!

Mmmm...pancakes and wine sounds sooooo good, Otter! I've resisted tonight but when if my IVF fails, I'm going to be all over the batter and booze.

Thanks Parsley!

Haha Boodle! Yes, I doubt Bluebirdy would want us all feeling her up! Where are you up to? Egg collection looming I believe?

Well done Otters!Good effort in gaining a bed all to yourself! Most excellent work!

Sorry wino I remebered you said you had got a faint line on hpt. Was that really only yesterday? This week is going sloooooooooooow.

Boodle! After the recent spate of berry IVF success stories you should remain positive. You have just as much chance as the other successful berries.

Funky, my brain doesn't work like that. My brain goes "Oh, well, there's already been 2 Berry IVF PGs in as many months. Time for a fail."

Me and my brain. We don't get along!!!

Ha Boodle, you are just jealous as you want everyone to feeling you ;)

Funky, that is crappy. I'm sorry.

Barking.... :( are you counting that in your mind as AF?

Cannot believe your FC don't believe in short LPs. Have you tried printing them off some actual peer reviewed research and asking them to explain why they think it is all wrong? I would but then I'm an arse academic.

RP, you're just jealous because you wish you were feeling me...or something like that.

My FC doesn't believe in short LPs either. Barking and I have long condemned them for this, yes, Barking? Let's not forget the Mumsnet Q&A a little while ago where the doctor on that also told me that short LPs don't exist and that I must be ovulating around day 10. Yes, that's why I get positive OPKs, EWCM, cramps and a temperature rise suggesting a day 15 ovulation then.

Actually, Bluebirdy hasn't been on for a little while...

and fpr funky.

I was DC14 yesterday and wailed my heart out all throughout my acupuncture session. My poor acupuncturist! I'm so embarrassed now. But she is fabulous and after the treatment, not only I felt better I got loads of EWCM last night so I put DH to good use. Lately I haven't been much in the mood as I've been feeling a bit despondent but I guess you can't just give up.

rp I'm not counting it as AF just yet as last cycle I had 5 days of spotting and then 5 days of proper bleeding lucky me. Previous to the mc I would have counted it as AF as I never had more than one day of a proper bleed. There's no point flogging the short LP point because they don't listen. I'm hoping the acupuncture will sort it out. My worry though is that it was possibly a reason for the mc (which is ridiculous because it was a mc not a cp so I got past the time when AF was due, I just don't know when it died, only that there was no heartbeat when it should have been 7 weeks).
I'm really scared that even if IVF works, I'll mc again.

Although I've been wide awake since 5am and that happened when I got my last bfp ignores fact that she went to bed at 8 and it was way past 6dpo that it happened last time

funky so sorry you're feeling down . I'm dreading the birth of baby that's due the same month as mine would have been (next month). On my actual due date I'll be on honeymoon. I don't know whether that was a good idea or not. Hopefully we'll be able to do something amazing that day to take my mind off it but I'm probably kidding myself.

I've been on cloud nine since the wedding and then after the spotting started yesterday I'm a snivelling mess again. Getting really fed up of it now.

Boodle you will get your ivf bfp - you have to to give me hope!