All that she wants is A baby! The Berries searching for the 'sign' but never symptom spotting (honest), possibly using a vagina jack and trying to get a FUFC before boarding the IVF train (thread 18)

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Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 12+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

feather I cut out booze totally for over a year, then started to have a glass of wine on occasion in the first two weeks, now I've totally given up being sober as it's so depressing to think I could have been tee total for 2 years 2 months now, and for what?! It's not got me anywhere!!!! Having said that, I do have a quandary coming up. It's my hen do on Friday (yes I know it's a little bit backwards, there are logistical reasons) and it'll be cd18. Part of me absolutely refuses to have a sober hen do when I don't have the 7 month bump that was going to enforce the soberness. The other part of me thinks there's a tiny chance I could get pg this cycle, and I'd really kick myself if I got a bfp and knew I'd had a few too many drinks in the 2ww. However, I've only ever had one cycle when I've ov'd before cd19 (although that was last cycle, so might be the new normal).
What would you berries do?!

Barking alcohol will only pass through to an implanted embryo so pre bfp anything goes. Congrats again. More pics? I want to see the shoes!

I find the drinking thing really annoying too. Every month I go through the frustration of deciding whether or not to act pregnant in the 2ww, just in case. From what I've read, drinking in the 2ww has an all or nothing effect, if you drink loads, it may effect whether you get pregnant, but if you did get pregnant, it wouldn't effect the pregnancy, if that makes sense? I think this was in the 'inpatient womens guide'. I think you have to drink quite a lot though, and I think it's more relevant in the second half of the 2ww. I'm certainly less strict than I was at the beginning.

Glad you had a lovely wedding day Barking, very loud tut to the insensitive bump woman though. I gave up alcohol too at first but after a while it snuck back in! Like you say you could end up not drinking for ages. I'm crossing everything for you to get a "wedding instadiff"!

Feather, might you need to poas soon??

Parsley I like chin up tits out

Hi bunny, it does sound like I've found the right place! How far along are you now? Congrats too!

Hope everyone is having a lovely chilled Sunday!

the ttc stories coming from most of my instadiffer mates seem to involve them finding out they were pg after a worse than usual hangover. Most were reassured by various medical professionals that any drinking before the bfp was too early to do any harm. My close friends certainly didn't give up or even really cut down but then they weren't trying for very long. I try not to drink much but I find it hard tbh so I don't go out anywhere near as much as i used to. I swing between not drinking at all for a few weeks and then giving up and having a few because it seems ridiculous to be fretting about the odd glass of wine!!

Barking - I would have a few drinks. You only have 1 hen do! Enjoy it!

beaky 'afraid not - really think it's af and oh was away for work when I did ovulate. Oh well - hopefully my ovaries have awoken a little with all the acupuncture and they'll start doing what they're supposed to without clomid.

barking if it were me, I'd have a few drinks and allow myself to get merry. The thing I am realising most about this ttc stuff is that I we actually have absolutely no control over when we'll get a bfp. I've lost count of all the women I know that found out they were pregnant after they'd had wild nights out. But ultimately, you have to do what feels right to you and if that means a sober hen night, then so be it.

Evening Berries. Hope everyone is well and congrats Barking. Just got in from 3 days in France with 44 year 9s so my head is pretty fried! Can't read back over all these posts on my phone. Have I missed anything major? How are the IVF crew getting on? Half term just starting for me. Soooo glad to have the week off. Don't think I could cope with going in to work tomorrow!

happy crumbs, that sounds like hard work!

I cut out alcohol for the first 6 months, but like most of you just decided there was no point! Now I allow myself whatever I like during AF and then the odd drink here and there the rest of the cycle. I do try to avoid getting 'tight as a boiled owl' during 2ww tho. (Learnt that expression from buzzfeed, apparently the Victorians used that as slang for being drunk and I rather like it!)

I AM however going to make a concerted effort to cut out caffeine as I was reading it can have a very real effect on whether your egg makes it down the womby flume ok!

happy Sounds like half term has been perfectly timed! Enjoy the break!

parsley 'tight as a boiled owl'!!! Hahahahaha! As for caffeine, I cut coffee out a while back but can't seem to shake my one cup of tea every morning. Have replaced all the other hot drinks I have throughout the day with herbal tea.

Well, looks like af has arrived. Calling the fc in the morning to try and get the ball rolling on the hsg.

I'm just killing time waiting for my SiL to upload our wedding photos so I've trawled through the thread to collect the list together.. Apologies if someone has slipped through the net!

Kuma - 39, TTC 15 cycles, high FSH, low AMH, low ovarian reserve, approved for 1 NHS natural cycle IVF, first appointment beginning of April.
Winohhh, 37, ttc since march 2013, high fsh, low amh, mmc feb 2014, waiting for my cycle to return before trying again.
Beaky, 34 ttc #1 since august 12. So far tests are normal but scans and HSG lined up in next few weeks (eek).
Feather, 35 (sob), ttc since September 12. One fallopian tube, six rounds of clomid = ectopic in November 13. Waiting for next af to book hsg and work out next steps.
barkingtreefrog 34, ttc 2 years 2 months. 8 day LP. Clomid bfp ended in mc Sept 2013, cycles AWOL for 4 months afterwards, now back but not settled yet. FC appointment in March to hopefully be referred for IVF.
Tigerdog, 33, ttc since January 2013. Hsg booked for 6 March so having to take current cycle off ttc. All tests normal so far.
Gillster, 39 (just), just had one round of short protocol IVF. Currently have 6 one cell embies sitting in the freezer whilst I await a polyp removal in 2-3 months. Have appointment with FC on 2 April to discuss how the frozen cycles are going to work.
Funky, 31 (for a few more weeks). TTC since Nov 2012. MC July 2013 and Dec 2013. Thrombophilia (apparently). DH lowish morphology.
Parsley, 32, ttc since Mar 2012. MMC Nov 2013. Me and MrP both 'normal'
bluebirdy 30, TTC 2.5 years in all, starting IVF (ICSI) in May/June, deludingly hoping for a FUFC before then!
Happylass 36, cycle 15, awaiting next appointment at FC to hopefully formulate some type of action plan.

Excellent work barking! Thanks. What a depressing list! Boodle needs her stats adding and Pip when she's ready to come back.

So we had 3 recent grads? Sid, bunny, charming. Everything happens in 3's right so we're due another 3 soon? My monies on a wedding instadiff for barking to get the ball rolling (love how my phone now has instadiff on the autospell!)

Sniggering at 'tight as a boiled owl' and the 'wombey flume'!!

Sorry af arrived feather. That's poop. I reckon your acupuncturist was wrong about your ovulation then.

Happy the France trip seems a bit mad! Enjoy your week off!

Do I need to miss the next cycle ladies? I really don't want to but think I have to. We have booked a 3 week trip to Central America. Lots of hiking etc. Af/bfp would be due 5days into the trip and with 2 consecutive miscarriages I would be shit scared about it happening again whilst I was n the middle of nowhere. Also would be worried with hiking and roughing it I may put myself at increased risk. Dh doesn't see the problem in skipping a cycle, but I live my life (as we all do) counting down to ov and then the 2ww. To have a month off will feel like a big missed opportunity, but then I know its the best thing I guess. Sorry, I'm ranting now.

funky your trip sounds fantastic! I know what you mean about a month off feeling like a waste but finding out you are pg somewhere remote without access to decent healthcare could be tough. This month is out for us due to the timing of my hsg appointment and initially I was really annoyed about it, but I have to say that unexpectedly it is also a relief to have a break from the process. If you skip this cycle then by the sounds of it you might ov towards the end of your holiday (holiday bfp?!) and can enjoy a few cervesas and a worry free holiday in the meantime. I have managed to convince myself that the cycle off isn't a waste - I'm detoxing and getting in to shape ready for getting back on the ttc bandwagon next month!

Thinking I'm getting OHs cold - sore throat and keep waking up in the night feeling hot even though the window is open!

tiger attack the early stages of cold with solvable aspirin! If you get it early in can kill off the virus!

funky holiday sounds amazing! I don't think you should put pressure on yourself not to miss a cycle. It's not wasting anything - in fact, you and your oh probably need this hol and it might be nice not to have to think about it all too consciously?

It's been really frustrating for me since the ectopic to have to wait, but I feel like (even though I am still obsessing) having a break from clomid/fc/scans/blood tests has done me a bit of good recently. I am THRILLED I got af - at last! It's really need to happen and means I can start hassling the fc for my hsg.

Happy Monday y'all! Gorgeous day.

One more thing: do I count yesterday or today as CD1? 'full flow' only started late last night...

Feather, my acupuncturist says that if the full flow starts late in the day then you count the next day as day 1.

Adding myself to the list...feeling a bit despondent today

Kuma - 39, TTC 15 cycles, high FSH, low AMH, low ovarian reserve, approved for 1 NHS natural cycle IVF, first appointment beginning of April.
Winohhh, 37, ttc since march 2013, high fsh, low amh, mmc feb 2014, waiting for my cycle to return before trying again.
Beaky, 34 ttc #1 since august 12. So far tests are normal but scans and HSG lined up in next few weeks (eek).
Feather, 35 (sob), ttc since September 12. One fallopian tube, six rounds of clomid = ectopic in November 13. Waiting for next af to book hsg and work out next steps.
barkingtreefrog 34, ttc 2 years 2 months. 8 day LP. Clomid bfp ended in mc Sept 2013, cycles AWOL for 4 months afterwards, now back but not settled yet. FC appointment in March to hopefully be referred for IVF.
Tigerdog, 33, ttc since January 2013. Hsg booked for 6 March so having to take current cycle off ttc. All tests normal so far.
Gillster, 39 (just), just had one round of short protocol IVF. Currently have 6 one cell embies sitting in the freezer whilst I await a polyp removal in 2-3 months. Have appointment with FC on 2 April to discuss how the frozen cycles are going to work.
Funky, 31 (for a few more weeks). TTC since Nov 2012. MC July 2013 and Dec 2013. Thrombophilia (apparently). DH lowish morphology.
Parsley, 32, ttc since Mar 2012. MMC Nov 2013. Me and MrP both 'normal'
bluebirdy 30, TTC 2.5 years in all, starting IVF (ICSI) in May/June, deludingly hoping for a FUFC before then!
Happylass 36, cycle 15, awaiting next appointment at FC to hopefully formulate some type of action plan.
BecauseISaidS0 40, TTC since May 2013, high FSH, March appointment with endocrinologist, weekly acupuncture.

Funky I would say have a month off. I know it's frustrating having to wait but you don't want to feel stressed on such an amazing trip. The time will fly by. We took 6 cycles off recently and although there's always that nagging 'what if..?' it was actually really refreshing not having to know what cycle day you're on or where you are in the 2ww. When do you leave?

because sorry you're feeling down today. All ok?

Hi all - having a slightly deflating day. The surgery called and apparently I have to 'rebook my CD21 progesterone test'. I haven't had one This is because the GP just said 'go and get a blood test' and not to do it on CD21. I knew I would have to at some point but....

I am now slightly scared that they will have recorded my last week's result as CD21 and therefore think that I have wildly abnormal progesterone levels

Eurgh. So sorted that out - thank goodness I do know what cycle day I'm on so could book it.

DH and I dtd twice around OV - I think I OV yesterday and we managed Sat am and Sun pm - but DH had a return of prostatitis so he had to take painkillers afterwards :( We'll see.

Sorry, that was just a big whinge about nothing really! Had a shitty unproductive day at work. Off home to make myself feel better by cleaning something. Grrrrr.

funky I agree with tiger, if AF is due on holiday maybe just ttc after AF arrives. If you're already worried about getting a bfp while you're away you're not going to worry any less if it happens, then you'll worry about worrying too much....

rp you make yourself feel better by cleaning? Next time you're feeling a bit down come visit me, I can provide you with an oven that will make you feel amazing!
When I had my cd21 blood test I got a call from the gp saying I needed to come in and discuss the results. I said if they were going to tell me I wasn't ovulating I could have told them that myself and I'd already said to the nurse that it was pointless having it on cd21 as I didn't ov until cd22. .

feather excellent news on AF! (you know what I mean, obviously a miraculous bfp would have trumped AF but just getting something of a cycle back is a bonus).

Excellent work in the list Barking!

A cycle off seems sensible to me Funky, the less worry the better and there's still a chance of some relaxed post AF holiday shaggage.

Just thought I'd mention that my boobs are out of control! All the IVF drugs have had a definite effect in that area. I have ample assets in that department already but they seem almost unmanageable at the moment. Needless to say DH's eyes are on stalks!

Imagining rampaging boobs now gil - well that's one perk MrP can look forward to if we get to IVF stage!

funky a month off seems hard to countenance in our situations but honestly, it's actually quite enjoyable! Your trip sounds fab, very jealous!

CD4 and AF tailing off already. First three days were pretty full on, so I think that's ok. This will be 4th cycle since MC, 3rd we'll have actively ttc'ed. What strategy shall we go for this time? SMEP? Every other day? Only when CBFM says peak?

Feather, I'm just having one of those days where it feels that nothing is every going to work out the way I want to: will never get pregnant, work will continue being stressful, I will get fatter and fatter.

Call the wahmbulance!

Funky, I agree with the others, it seems like such an amazing holiday, the last thing I'd want is to be stressing during it. Do you go soon? I'm v jealous I love America.

Feather yey to AF(!) at least you can get on with planning your next steps now.

Because and RP, sorry it's been a rubbish day for you guys I don't have many words to offer at the moment as I'm finding it hard to see things happening for myself too. I'm trying to distract myself though...!

Parsley, what do you find easier? I do like my ov sticks so at least I know it's the right times!

Hi to everyone else too

rp agree with barking - any time you feel the need to let off some steam, my place is all yours! seriously though, sorry to hear you've had a crappy day. Dealing with FC and test results especially when unsure that they've got it right is bloody stressful.

barking how are you feeling post-wedding? Looking forward to your wedding party this weekend? Will you wear your wedding dress?

gil great heads up on the ivf med bazooms! Woo hoo! At least a decent cleavage is something to look forward to when/if my ivf time comes. Are you still taking meds or is it the after effects?

parsley if you can manage every other day, then go for that! But only because I don't know what SMEP is and timing around ov can be stressful! Have you tried preseed? The month I got preg we used it. Although I was on a massive dose of clomid too.

Called the FC today and somehow, miraculously, they had room for me to do a hsg next Tuesday afternoon. I'll know once and for all whether it's more clomid or straight to the ivf train. I'm really scared, I won't lie. Seems so final.

Cross-post beaky. Hope you're ok. Distractions are good!