Fab Forty-Plus! Where are the BFPs...

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To keep this thread going, proving support to all of those of a 'riper vintage' wishing for a baby...

I have received so much help, advice and support here, so although I technically have graduated, I thought I'd get the next thread going to keep the momentum.

Just congratulations!! Really exciting, and indeed fingers crossed for a boring and 9 months (I'll even settle for 9 months!!)

Jbrd you really have been through so much. Sounds like the counselling may be a good idea, just sifting through everything even. It can be really helpful being allowed to talk about things without worrying about your audience. Good for you for going to the yoga.

Green exciting news too! Good luck with it all. No spare HPTs I'm afraid, i am still doing them!! Had to do a digital today just so I could see the word rather than just a line. And yup, unless the test has honesty issues definitely pg.

gum you asked about the supplements I took. I am pretty terrible at remembering to take things, but I was taking CoQ10, melatonin ( ff, got it from Biovea), Omega 3, vitamin C, Evening Primrose, DHEA (I know jury is out), and the pregnacare for conception which had loads of other stuff that seems to be recommended. I also went for fertility acupuncture, which I do think helps me - I had it before DS as well. I think it was probably that more than anything. I went to Emma Cannon, the one who wrote the Baby-Making Bible - horrendously expensive but hey if it works?!

I phoned Action on Preeclampsia last Friday, and they have offered me a consultation with one of their specialists. This needs a referral from the gp, so off i went on Tuesday to ask for one. The dr didn't know about this service so we got a little confused, as she thought I was asking to be booked into a central London hospital for the birth. I thought it was a bit shocking that she didn't know about the consulations, given that preeclampsia isn't so rare. However, she is doing the referral, plus one for an early scan at my local hospital. So I have set the great caravan in motion. Scary.

Wonderful news Justpick. Wow! I knew it was time for some BFP's but didn't expect two in such quick succession.

Green, try to relax and enjoy the tww. As far as I am concerned, you are pregnant, cos you've got 2 fertilized eggs in there! How exciting.

It's so lovely to see it all happening on the thread. Well done oldies!

Many congratulations to grinch and justpick....what a boost of hope its given me to hear of your positives

Congratulations Justpick. I can't believe we've got two bfps this month already. I wonder if there will be any more. Pretty sure I can rule myself out as I have taken the 'no alcohol' advice & stomped all over it!! Had a work do last night & drunk copious amounts of wine to help me through the hilarity that is 30 mostly women singing karaoke classics. Sounds like the night from hell I know but it was fun! Hungover all day but I have now finished work for the summer. Relaxation here I come xx

Grizzer, sounds like you had fun. And now you can relax for the summer. How many weeks do you have off? Enjoy. Do you have any plans?

I too, am on holiday, but only two weeks. Not complaining, I really need this break. Fortunately, at this stage (touch wood) everyone is well! DD's mysterious tummy pain seems to have gone (and the bloody dr's surgery told me they'd ring me on Tuesday with results of her helicobactor test, and so far nothing! I've been so busy I forgot to ring them yesterday and ask again). DH is over the worst of the Man-flu, and everyone else seems to be getting over the cold they all had. Thank goodness, don't know how much more I could take.

Well, I never did end up buying the stuff off ebay. I decided that I'd be better off spending the money somewhere else, where needed, as I don't really need to pee on a stick to know when to have sex. I should just have it all the time (ha, ha, as if that's going to happen!), or at least every second day from about day 8 to day 15. That should cover the fertile window. Also, I don't need all those pregnancy tests, I just need to be pregnant so that I can get a + on the tests I already have I still have some opk's and will still use them, mainly to support the temping on do for my chart.

I know at my age I should probably give up ttc, but I've done it for so long now, I actually think it is part of my normal lifestyle (weird, I know, ). But so long as I am still ovulating, even if they are dud eggs, I'm going to be open to getting pregnant. It's a very slim chance, but a chance all the same. In the meantime, I do love and enjoy the children I already have.

DD is playing netball today, so I'll have a long swim. Then, if I've the energy, I'll get stuck into tidying the house so I can relax and enjoy the rest of the holidays. I plan to garden, knit, list stuff on ebay, put up curtains/blinds, take DD (17years old) to the city for a couple of days to buy a ball gown (it is her school "ball" in August) and maybe even read a novel

Calibee - any updates?

Green - how are you feeling?

Grinch, are you already about 6 weeks? Symptoms??? What about you Justpick - any symptoms?

Well it is day 3 in the green lizard house and I feel....absolutely nothing at all!! . This could mean nothing and everything. Obviously like any intelligent woman would do I have turned to frantically googling but I have drawn no conclusions other than some people get symptoms and some don't . Apparently a 5 day blastocyst would hatch on day 6 and start implanting on day 7 (ish). Would my symptoms be the same as an unsupported cycle I wonder? I can see that I will be driving myself (& everyone else around me bonkers I have been talking to them (out loud ) and asking them to dig in and make themselves at home. DP already has the look of someone hunkering down to weather the storm..

Now here is some news for us, a lady at work is pregnant (naturally) at 51!!!! She is very

Very jealous of you teachers and your long summer holidays (but not of your full on jobs the rest of the year obviously ). Enjoy your breaks. grizzer that sounds like a really fun night out and one night of letting your hair down isn't going to hurt

Today I am going to do some shopping (need some shoes for a party I am going to end July, bake a cake and sort some boxes out. Maybe catch a bit of the tour. Enjoy your days ladies.

Xxx

Ps.gum my nephew went off to his prom the other night in his DJ and I nearly cried - how do they grow up so fast!

Pregnant naturally at 51! My goodness! I feel like a spring chicken now. All relative ain't it?!
Gum glad to hear everyone in your house is well.
I am Sometimes slightly nauseous, especially if too long between eating. And do get the same sort of feeling as if period is coming buti have had that for nearly two weeks and I got it in my last pg so don't thnk it is anything to worry about. Naseau started to get serious about week 6 last time.
Fingers crossed for you Green!

How fantastic Justpick congratulations! xx

Well im slap bang In the middle of my tww after trying the soft cups along with dtd as normal too. Now added zinc to my list of supplements too.
Have started having my usual crampy ovaries, tender boobs and chocolate cravings tho....so im pretty sure af will be popping by to share my choccy soon!

Pregnant at 51 !! That's amazing, Green. Has she just found out or has she passed the 12 week mark? I know it is truly amazing to get a bfp at that age, but with my experience, I like to hear that the pregnancy has progressed too.

As for me, not much happening. I should have started the shag fest but DH has hurt his back, so there's nothing happening. I will also be away over the weekend, which I think is when I'll be likely to ovulate, so this month I am taking a step back, and not actually trying too hard. If it happens it happens, otherwise, I'll just enjoy a quiet tww with no symptom spotting.

Fatty - all those symptoms can be pregnancy too, so don't be too disheartened.

Hello all! I am 7+2 today, still fielding symptoms so hopefully so far so good. Still waiting for a date for the early scan - at this rate, it won't be very early.

Grizzer I love a bit of karaoke now and then! Sounds like a great night.

Just how is the nausea? I haven't thrown up yet but the last three days have been horribly close., this morning particularly.

Green how are you doing? It must be an even more agonising ttw than usual. Google isn't always helpful either is it?!! Sending you positive thoughts.

The 51 year old reminds me that when I had BG there was a woman there who had c

Hello all! I am 7+2 today, still fielding symptoms so hopefully so far so good. Still waiting for a date for the early scan - at this rate, it won't be very early.

Grizzer I love a bit of karaoke now and then! Sounds like a great night.

Just how is the nausea? I haven't thrown up yet but the last three days have been horribly close., this morning particularly.

Green how are you doing? It must be an even more agonising ttw than usual. Google isn't always helpful either is it?!! Sending you positive thoughts.

The 51 year old reminds me that when I had BG there was a woman there who had conceived naturally at 51 and had girl twins! They were in SCBU at the same time as BG. The dad still looked dazed, perhaps in part because he had three adult daughters and now two more! I read on another thread about the 'heavy hand' you can buy to lay over your baby, the thread thought it was freaky. But these twins has one had it always calmed them instantly.

gum a month out can maybe be beneficial for one's brain at least I think? And then the holidays to relax in (with children? Maybe not...).

fishwife it ain't over till it's over...

I have managed so far to keep it from work, despite the midriff spread that makes me look 5 months gone. A few more days, then I can waltz in in September at 14 weeks and spring the surprise!

Grinch thanks for the info on where to get melatonin. Biovea kept coming up when I searched so good to have a recommendation. I hope I won’t need any but am getting prepped to add that to the list if AF puts in an appearance again. How long were you taking your supps for? Is BG full weaned from BF? Baby FF isn’t and I worry a bit about taking the supps while still doing so.

Impressed by your actions on PE. Hope you get in the system for that soon. Wow! 7+2 already! Am a little , but also that you’ve been so successful so quickly. Gives me hope as we’re the same age. .Am loving the image of you waltzing into school in Sept with growing bump to give them your news.

Green loving the idea of you talking to your embies! Are they advanced for their age? Have they started answering back??!!

I had a look at Emma Cannon’s website/twitter stuff. She’s certainly into ‘clean’ living. Makes me feel better for using all my Daylesford cleaning stuff!! I also stumbled upon The Dr Zhai Clinic, mentioned in passing in Marie Claire this month. Many similar principals on successful conception there too. Wonder how much the acupuncture costs… Currently on 2WW but not exactly sure where exactly. OVd later than usual, but starting to feel very pre-menstrual, so not sure if I should feel optimistic. However, BF is really painful…. Am prob clutching at straws…

Waves to all. Better get on with some chores while BFF sleeps!

Hello everyone.

Fireflies, coincidentally I just read this thread over at Fertility Friend, and it mentioned the use of melatonin.

I too am a little of Grinch - 7+2 already. I hope it is smooth sailing for you.

Fireflies, my first pregnancy after DS, I was still breastfeeding and had painful nipples when feeding - sounds promising!

I have been having a lovely relaxed time. Yesterday the weather was very cold and wet, so we had the fire going and I did a bit of tidying up, snuggling by the fire and a little bit of gardening when the rain stopped.

Unfortunately my peaceful day was disturbed with a phone-call from DD (14 years old) telling me she had been caught shop-lifting. I can't tell you how surprised and upset I am. She is actually such a great kid - never any trouble - straight A's at school, super bright. I'm a bit , but these things happen.

Beginning to feel like I should start looking forward to having the kids move out! It's been a tough year for us what with DH's parents being ill (he's now trying to organise a nursing home for his father), having DS (23) come back home to live, jobless and incredibly annoying and lazy. Plus I went back to full-time work, DS (5) started full-time school, DD (17) is doing her final year and tertiary entrance exams, and the house feels fit to burst with 7 people, four of them (practically) adults.Our downstairs bathroom is on the blink, so we all share one bathroom (which is starting to grate - all those bloody wet towels are doing my head in!).

Sorry - I've whinging again - seem to do that a lot lately. It's just with my perfect angel of a daughter being caught stealing (she assures me it is the first time, she was with a friend, and I think that was part of it) I just feel it's almost the last straw. Which now has me thinking (as I am sure any sane person would) that I've got enough on my plate and a pregnancy (and all the illness and fatigue it brings) and new baby might just be the mouthful I choke on!

But then again, I can think of nothing more hopeful and wonderful than having a baby.

So there you have it,every-time: heartfelt wins over logic

Gum, I am aghast at seven people and one bathroom. This is my idea of a nightmare!
Try not to feel too upset at dd. we all do stupid things as teenagers. I am pretty sure if you looked up a dictionary it would say 'teenager: a person of youth who does stupid thngs'.
It is fabulous that you are feeling so splendidly pregnant Grinch.
Well I am getting a bit worried. Not really feeling nauseous anymore and even my spots have calmed down. In my last pregnancy I got more and more naseous and was feeling very ill by week 7 or 8 and quite a lot of spots in first trimester. Definitely on way to full blown nauseau by week 6, which I am at now. Thinking of looking to pay for early scan though we can't really afford this ( not that I know how much it will cost but can't be cheap?)

Morning everyone, I am just relaxing with a cup of (decaf) coffee & a chocolate brioche after dropping dd at nursery & cleaning the kitchen. Going to finish decorating the hall which I started at Easter & still haven't finished due to all the illness that took hold of our family.
Gum it might be a good thing that dd got caught first time, I'm guessing the fear she felt having to face the police & phone you to confess will make her think it's not worth doing it again. I think most teenagers try these things at some point. I remember working in a cafe when I was about 14 & sneaking cigarettes out of one of the adults bag. My friend & I stood in a little lane between our 2 houses trying our first smoke! So stupid - anyone could have come along at any time but, at that age, we just d

Sorry - fat thumbs again! Meant to say we don't think of the consequences. Hope you're ok. It doesn't even sound as if you can run away & lock yourself in the bathroom to get away from it all!! Lol x
I'm having a mad moment again - had a recommendation for a psychic who is "amazing!" I tried to get an appointment & she was fully booked until December!!!!!! Got a text a couple of days later offering me a cancellation for Friday. Totally fate..... I'll let you know how I get on x

Justpick, if scan seems out of your reach, maybe a digi test to show you that you are moving up in the number of weeks would be doable to keep you sane?

me too is going through another bfp. this time it was a neg 10 dpo and then I went to a song festival in homeland. With 100 000 people singing/dancing from morning til night it did not enter my mind I was actually late until the party was over. Then went to buy some stuff to take back with me yesterday before flying back and in front of a pharmacy I remembered I was actually late, 15DPO. I had on and off spotting over weekend, but it dried up and nothing more. So, grabbed the most unsensitive cheap pee stick and POAS there and then, in supermarket toilets. Was staying w family and did not want to take the test there. Threw it into handbag, and exited the supermarket. A few minutes later decided to veryfy my bfn. And very cheekily there was a proper bfp, light but clear. was afternoon and i had drunk loads during the day, so probably right now I am still on track. Confirmed today that even an internet cheapie, in afternoon gives a positive. a real bfp, not a line you can see when you look at special angle or sth. Lighter though than control line. But I have been here so many times that I know it means nothing. Am concentrating on the good feelings from song festival and football, head in sand firmly. No congratulations please before the heartbeat:-)) hope is rising its ugly head here.......

Here is everything crossed for you JassS. Really hope it works out for you!

Well scans were much cheaper than I thought. I thought they would be in the mega hundreds. But have booked a scan on sunday 20th July for £89.
Had an early scan in last pregnancy after light bleeding. useless incompetent sonographer told us the preg. Had definitely failed. She had just got my dates wrong as she never read file properly so she thought I was 2 weeks more advanced than I was which was why she misdiagnosed me when she could not see a heartbeat. Thankfully in our area all women are given a second scan 1 week later which is where they discovered her mistake. But booking this scan has brought back memories of that awful first scan and that awful week. Going to be a loooong wait till 20th....

Everything crossed here too Jass xx

Good luck jass! Is this one slightly different in terms of how strong the line is? I will keep everything crossed for you.

just sorry you have had a bad experience . I think that £89 is a bargain if it can bring you some peace of mind. I know that Sunday must seem so far away now you have made the decision. Good luck!

grinch 7+2 already - that's great (as is feeling rubbish )

gum 7 people and 1 bathroom what on earth time to you have to get up to get everyone through the shower!!! You really do need this holiday.

I am just about holding up but have decided cannot possibly wait until next Monday to test. My thinking is that if the embryos were 5 days old when transferred 7 days ago - I am the equivalent of 13DPO . Is my thinking flawed??

As I didn't have a trigger shot there is no risk of getting a false positive. I am getting lots of positive symptoms but that could be the progesterone? Really I don't know why I am asking - I have a clearblue digi test upstairs whispering to me......

Evening all

Enjoying a quiet evening, chilling in PJs. DH out with a mate and DS asleep. Lovely to have a bit of peace and quiet! If only the internet would work in bed. Hey ho. Still quite comfy here on sofa.

Thanks for the link, Gum. I must sign up to FF. Been meaning to for charting, but haven’t has yet. Can’t read the forum without signing up. What’s the gist of it?

Think there’s been some good advice on here already about your daughter. I totally understand why you’re so shocked though. There is a wonderful idea on here about WIFI that might help with your towels-on-floor etc prob: www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/a2126556-Ive-just-sent-a-horribly-PA-text-to-my-children . Some other gems too. I’m disappointed the thread isn’t longer. Love the ‘this is a fridge’ facebook pics. I have saved this to look up when DS is a sulky teenager!

Hope you’ve managed to escape it all mentally though with some more gardening and snuggling in front of fire. Sounds wonderfully romantic. I can’t go into damn garden without being harassed by one neighbour or another.

Grizzer how did the decorating go? I started doing our hall in 2009 and from time to time it occurs to me that I ought to finish it!!

JassS wow!! Took me a while to work out where you were going with your festival story. Another BFP on the thread? Fingers Xd.

Justpick Great you have a scan booked. But your story… There are so many cases of twattery in health care. Makes me weep. I can’t remember when the heartbeat can be detected from, but DH and I found having a listening monitor (Doppler? Mind gone totally blank) very helpful.

green let us know when you crack!! Fingers xd for you too!

Apart from painful nips, which I agree, Gum, could be a positive sign (because is not an infection as is affecting both), I also feel abysmal – I have a cold but I feel really crappy and dizzy. Much like I did around testing date for DS, so it’s quite positive also . I keep expecting to be disappointed when I go to the loo though, and it’s only CD21 so no point testing yet. I’m going to make myself wait until the weekend as I think/hope this is a longer cycle as I ov’d later than normal.

Anyway, symptom spotting/clutching at straws asides, I find myself in a similar position to Gum WRT offspring. DS (age 2) has suddenly become rather light fingered. At the weekend he was trying to put some throat lozenges in his ‘shopping bag’. Had a bit of a laugh with the shop assistants about this, but was mortified when I got home to find them still in the bag. Then, he was out shopping with DH, and while he wasn’t looking loaded the pram basket up with three enormous blocks of cheese. DH was two streets away from supermarket before he got why DS kept pointing at pram basket and going on about cheese! I still can’t believe he went back!!

Anyway, sweet dreams to you all. Keep up the good work all you newly upduffed oldies, and sticky vibes to the rest of us. FF xx Am off to bed now for 4 Extra comedy and solitaire on ipad. Living the dream!

Well Fireflies, that is living the dream in my mind! Actually, as I lie in bed this morning, snuggled up to DS, I feel I am living the dream. For all the shit that happens in my life I have so much good stuff going on too. I do love my job: feel really lucky to work with teenagers all day, because the majority of them are really lovely. And I find it stimulating and fun. I like most of my colleagues (there are a few fruitcakes, but the rest of us can have a laugh over what they do, which is always fun ).

I am truly blessed in terms of having a large family, who, for the most part are very healthy and happy. Things could be so much worse. None of us has a terrible chronic illness, my children are all very bright and have done well academically, sharing the bathroom is awful, but sharing a table is lovely. We have wonderful mealtime conversations with 7 people aged 5 to 53. And my DH and I are still very happy together.

So, lots to be happy about. I know DD's shoplifting is just a teenage blip, I'm already ok with it all. She had a tough day yesterday, going into the store to discuss it with the manager, and also having a chat with the police. I know getting caught has really scared her, and I would be really shocked if it happened again. She apologised to her dad and me for upsetting us, and has very gladly taken the punishment of being grounded over the school holidays.

Anyway...I am having a nice relaxed holiday despite the stuff going on. Yesterday I took DS to play with his cousin and had a nice afternoon with my sister. Today I'll go and have a swim before going out to lunch with some girlfriends.

FF, this is the bit on Fertility friend that I thought you might want to know: "melatonin is excellent for egg quality but suppresses LH, so she only recommends it for ivf cycles. " and "They have a general list, but they make some changes depending on the patient. CoQ10 and DHA and folic acid are definitely on there for everyone. They put me on melatonin as well, but as brainy said, that's probably only for people doing IVF. Myo Inositol is another one they recommend, probably those who have PCOS issues. DHEA is another one, but not a one size fits all supplement. It depends on your existing hormone levels." and "I have 2 sets of list and they differ in quantity of supplement to take, but not by much. This is titled "poor responder supplement for Women" (from CCRM).

Myo inositol; 750 mg 3 tablets 2x/ day
Co Enzyme Q10 200 mg 3x/ day
Omega 3 fatty acid (DHA) 1000mg 1x daily
Vit C 500 mg in AM
Vit E 400 IU once daily
L arginine 1000 mg 2x daily
pycnogenol 100 mg once daily
melatonin 3 mg at bedtime (do not take if on thyroid med)
Prenatal with folic acid
DHEA only on advice of physician"

That's pretty well the whole thread!

Jass, I'm not going to congratulate you, but I will give you a little squeeze and say that I really hope this is your keeper.

And did you girls see the thread: 45 and accidentally pregnant? I love hearing those stories (though I do understand her being a bit upset). I still feel like I am buying a lottery ticket every month: you have got to be in it to win it, and I feel glad that I'm still in it, until the fat lady (menopause) sings...

Fireflies - love that thread! Had to LOL over the fridge photo! I may have to do a similar thing myself...