TTC 10+++ months part 18

[Mrsden]

This is the BFP thread.

Euro hope the wait is bearable. Work as a distraction sounds like the best way. When is OTD? Will you be testing early?

Joy I know what you mean about feeling waves of sadness. It catches me unaware sometimes too. It's good to stay hopeful. You hear so many couples falling pregnant when they stop thinking about it. Why not you. It CAN and does happen. Look at Cos and Sar. They are both excellent examples.

I haven't had another immune. Mr T likes to do it just before stimms but not during DR. It looks like stimms will fall on the period when Chicago is shut. They did want me this might be slightly suboptimal and the big guy might decide to just give me ivig or/and intralipids 'just in case'. I guess it will be a judgement call rather than based on actual results. Thanks for considering me a "normal". I have to say I don't feel if at all. I feel quite nervous about this whole process I guess we will get to find out if there is even fertilisation after all these years!

Fox - that's strange about different nipples. Do you think it's down to some of the drugs?

Afm not much to report. Still sniffing away. Had an encounter with a horrid work associate yesterday who made me feel really bad. The usual sexist attitude about women who have kids being less than committed to work etc. He basically asked if after my years of hard work doing my masters I'm going to now "waste it" all by popping out some kids. I encounter quite a lot of this in my industry and normally it's water off a ducks back but last night it really got to me and I had a little cry when I got home. I really hope this is effects of DR and not me.

Quick post as I'm on the phone, on route to work.

Lost the thread for a bit there and come back to find an ironidiff!!!! Omg cos that's amazing. I'm so thrilled for you. Your Dr never prescribed gesterone in 20 years?... I think there needs to be some Dr education!!

Forget to say to Ten. Good luck on your 2ww. I hope the other two will thrive and they end up in the freezer. Glad you had a lovely woman doc as well. Who is this other doc? He sounds awful!

ten that's interesting that you have a similar view of the Greek guy. The woman was so much less rough. Good luck for your 2ww, and I hope you end up with something to freeze too!

sea OTD is Thursday 19th (14dpEC). I will test at 12dpEC as I have got a faint positive at that point on all previous cycles.

That's terrible sea! I'm intrigued as to what industry you work in. Promotion stats show that similar attitudes still prevail in the law, but as lawyers have some understanding of discrimination laws, they usually have the good sense not to say anything out loud.

fox that's odd about your nips. Mine look just as they did before IVF!

Morning lovelies!

I am still reeling of cos news. I am so delighted for you. I might have some spare progesterone, if we're setting up a drug racket, and a vial of gonal-f, neither of which I'll use soon. I found it really tough impossible to believe a diffment could stick, in fact I have spent the whole first trimester firmly in denial and I yesterday finally told some (important) people I work with at 14 weeks. But what I meant to say cos, once you have that BFP, the chances are it will stick, and will grow into a perfect bouncy baby. I am thinking of you, particularly in the scary part to the first scans.

Euro, I am with sar in that you are not done yet. Firstly, you're PUPO. There might be a perfect little euro-girl nestling in there. And secondly, if you can hack it, I second the option of LP, as you have plenty of follies and if there is a chromosomal issue, it might still be a numbers game, you migh just need more eggs to play with. However, not and never at the cost of your sanity. MrEuro sounds lovely a) because he does not like seeing you go mad SB was close to forbidding another round with LP when I came out of the druck-haze this summer, however, the frosties and diffment went some way to compensate for his worries, and b) because he gets you perfect presents. Be distracted, work hard and you'll see what can happen...

Sea I am so sorry about the comments and the little cry. Your office environment sounds horrid. My direct bosses are women with children, so they are delighted for us, rather than dismissive. It's crazy and crap that some careers still come with such huge chips on shoulders about something that is so normal, and I hasten to add, should not bugger your career even if it often does, still.

Ten hurrah for being PUPO! I really hope the other two make it to blast and give you another shot for number 2. For now I am thinking embedding thoughts to your and euro's embies!

Fox my nipples changed with my mc-pregnancy and never completely returned to their normal size/colour etc. So maybe it was your chemicals rather than IVF?
How are you otherwise? It sounds busy with work! Is that a nice distraction or a necessary evil? I am thinking of you all the time. Have a big hug!

Waves and hugs to all, nelly, joy, poutster, mrsd, free, buzzy, mad and arte!

So you know that massive snot crying fit if despair I had in Sunday night? And the earnest discussion with MrF about how we must start IVF in January because it's doing my head in and if that doesn't work we adopt. I think it might have been hormones because I just did a home pregnancy test and it's positive. Going to the doctors tomorrow morning to get the HCG values checked out to see if this is actually real.

Congratulations Free! That is amazing news! It really is BFP Thread :)

Bloody hell free! That's awesome!

Two surprise BFPs in two days faints with excitement Free that is bloody wonderful! So, so happy and grinning like a loon. mrsd you are officially our new thread starter lucky charm

Holy crap Free that is brilliant news!!!!!!!! Congratulations!

Euro my OTD is the 20th and the nurse looked quite confused when I asked if I could push the test to the 21st as I was busy on the 20th, I figure nothing is going to change the outcome. I hope this is your cycle!

Sea I hear you on the whole women being not as committed thing, I’m sorry that they were an idiot, and I am sure it is the DR that made you take it more personally than you usually would. I got asked by the head of my area if I was planning on having kids…..and they moved a pregnant colleague out of our area and took her off client work! The worst cases of this behaviour I know of is either my friends who are traders or a friend who is a barrister and was constructively dismissed (they just stopped giving her cases!) it never ceases to amaze me that this continues.

Lemons Yay for finally telling work people, it is great news that you are this far along and all is going smoothly!

Free - I am astounded and soooooo delighted for you!! 2 bfp's!!!!! Waters definitely going to burst now. Come on thread 18 - keep em rolling!

Free! That's fab fab fab! Two in a week. Lucky thread 18 indeed!
Wooohooooo! I'm so happy for you.

Euro I work in financial services. To be fair when I was an employee at big firms many were actually v good to mums (depending on the role - not my function ) but I now work as a consultant and mainly with entrepreneurs in start ups or those who are in a growth phase and their attitude towards women of child bearing age can only be described as horrific. I have heard it all!! As Ten said, I'm usually okay with it but recently these comments have started to be v difficult indeed.

Sar! I'm so excited for you Xmas baby. I can't believe you are almost there!

free massive congrats to you

sea tell your colleagues you don't communicate with inbred neanderthals from the dark ages

ten fingers crossed for you my lovely

Ten I meant to say I'm sorry you have had to contend with similar ignorance. I remember years ago in my twenties I was asked at an interview if I was married or intended to have kids soon ( I wasn't then). I was horrified then and made a formal complain to the recruiter. To be honest it's been 10 years since and in my experience unless you work for a big firm in my industry nothing has changed. Smaller firms are the worst but most of my clients are this group. What's sadder is I'm not an employee and have my own business so I don't expect maternity pay. They still don't like the fact I might have to take time off. The kinds of things that have been said are downright sexist. And almost all of these men have children but they do pretty much all have stay at home wives (nothing wrong with that). I do wonder if that's what affects their views.

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I would love to but these are not colleagues - but clients or potential clients. I would love to be in a position to only work with nice intelligent people but I don't always get that option.

Yippee free! Congratulations lovely, what wonderful news! So happy for you and hurrah for the lucky thread.

Sea your clients sound dreadful. Screw them!

Free- congrats! That is awesome!

Euro & ten - my fingers are crossed for both of you.

Sea - that sounds like some of the crap I have gotten too. It's hard to hear and can be very hurtful. Big hugs.

Sar- christmas baby! It is coming up fast. Have you been having lots of braxton hicks?

Lemon- It's great you finally told people at work!

Fox - that's strange about the nips. Mine changed with my mc and never went back. It could be hormonal?

MrsD - your positivity and optimism really seems to have worked.

waves to anyone I've missed! And apologies for the horrific phone typos.

Congrats Free! That's exciting news!! I can't remember how long you've been trying - was it 3 years?. Can you do a recap?

Mrsd - I seem to remember you started another thread which had a number of bfps. Can you start all of them in future?!

Woo hoo free! That's amazing, what made you poas? Did you do anything different this month? Remind us of your story again.

I've made a bus thread. Joy, you're right another one I started was full of bfps too. Wouldn't it be great of we got more bfps than a thread of fertiles? It's funny how the bfps come in batches. So who's next?

Ten, fingers crossed for your little two.

Euro, I'm not liking the sound of the Greek guy. Lots of things annoy me about my dr, but I must say he is incredibly gentle. Scans, internal exams, ec, transfer, removing my stitches, smear, he has done them all and has never been rough or hurt me. I think some drs think this is important and take their time, while others forget we are a real person who feels pain.

Thanks for your congratulations and positivity. Let's see what the HCG values say and if it sticks. I am 35, 36 soon. MrF is 40 and has duff motility and morphology. I have extra long cycles and too many man hormones. And pcos apparently but I am not convinced about that. 4 years 8 months trying. 1 miscarriage in first trimester. 5x iui with clomid and another drug and injections to trigger. Then stopped all drugs and went to Chinese.doctor for 6 months. Hot foot baths, herbs and acupunture and massage. Daily exercise. Good food. And sex when instructed by tracker on fertility friend.

And a chemical pregnancy after fifth IUI. And I poas because Chinese doctor had made cycles shorter and thIs one was going the other way. And my nipples hurts. And because it would be sod's law as I have been enjoying wine chocolate and parties and five cigarettes (total not every day) th e last Two weeks after months of healthy living. And because last pregnancy in 2011 I also had a mega uncharacteristic melt down a couple of days before

Crumbs Mrsd, I don't think I belong on a super fertile thread!
I can categorically tell you I won't be next. I am watching this from the Balcony or the Gods
Cos - how are you doing lovely? Just read a bit of thread where someone was shell shocked by a bfp having tried for 5 months (sigh/ gave up reading) and I thought wow, in that case Cos must feel like she has being hit by hundred nuclear bombs! !

Bloody hell Free- what a fricking nightmare of a journey. It is really well past your time and I have everything crossed this is it for you. So I need to find a Chinese doctor pronto!