The Elderberry Pavlovas: still chasing that 'copter in the hope of a festive BFP. Thread 16 (the one where Happy was left in charge!!)

[happylass]

Here we go again.....

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 6+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

barking. I tried acupuncture for a bit at the beginning of the year and didn't like the woman at all. Not in the same league as your, but her manner was odd. The treatment didn't work either. Remember when I had the 107 day cycle? She didn't help with that! If you want to try an alternative therapy, what about reflexology? I really enjoyed it and found it very relaxing, apart from anything else. I have a friend who instadiffed the cycle after competing in an iron man! I think the key is that your body is used to exercise, running would be too much for me, but obviously works for you. Do not feel bad about the mc. It was not anything that you did. I think that teachers do suffer with stress more than some others, but plenty of them get pg and have babies. You're doing stuff about the work stress. You're doing all that you can do. How's the new job? Will I recognise your stuff on the site?
happy. I can't believe that things are so rubbish near you. Sounds like you're doing good research. Knowledge is power. Bristol might be worth a try.
funky. Thinking of you x

I definitely won't be doing reflexology, my feet are way too ticklish! I had a free trial one at university once, she said I was very tense but I think that was because I wanted to pull my foot away! I do remember her saying there was something going on in my ovaries though, she asked me if I was ovulating, in those days I had no idea if I was ovulating, I wasn't paying attention to my cycles back then!

Slightly drunk feather here quickly reporting back to barking: she's in central London! If there is any way you could make a trip, do! Her name is Selina MacNair - google!

Ps: hic!

evening berries

hello saz - sorry af has arrived and do hope you can enjoy getting festive

talking of which am quite jealous of people enjoying pizza and g&t's - my insides have gone nuts after my op and haven't been able to eat much. Have spent past 24-36 hours dealing with horrible trapped wind - couldn't lie down yesterday or take deep breaths. Doesn't mix well with the sore bits where the incisions are, but seems to have calmed down a bit now - after excessive amounts of breaking wind (much to dh's amusement). sorry if tmi Can't help wondering if acupuncture could have some in useful there ?!

funky ditto what barking said. pixie if you're there - hope you're getting some answers and support too.

Welcome saz! You're in the right place here, these ladies will look after you . Do agree with the others re getting the ball rolling. I personally despised my cbfm but then maybe it knew all along that I wasn't ovulating properly. Must stick it on eBay do some other poor sod can despise it

barking you've already cut your exercise right down though. I thought that moderate exercise was good as it increased blood flow to the reproductive bits??! Still think you should sack her!

kitty this is only a Chinese medicine thing. DP spoke to a doctor friend of his last night about it. He said the only problem would be if I was training for an ironman or ultra marathon, something ridiculous. All evidence and research points towards exercise being good.

It all depends on whether I want to believe Chinese medicine over Western medicine. At the moment I have no AF and so far no evidence of ovulation since the mc in September. The clomid isn't making me ovulate and without AF I can't take it as intended anyway. There's not much else I can do now apart from wait and hope my cycles return. At some point. Unless I decide to believe in Chinese medicine...

It's very frustrating. I only realised how much it was getting to me when I went to bed early last night but was still awake and reading the mc threads at 1am . Hadn't made a conscious decision to be there as I got to the point a while ago where it wasn't helping me anymore, it just made dwell.

Ah well. More work needed on the positive thinking!

Woke up early this morning then finally got back to sleep. Just woken up and realised we have less than 2 hours to get up, pack for a week away in three different places, wrap all the christmas presents and get to a wedding!!!
Guess I need to get off MN!!!!

OMGoodness I've missed loads!

Yay gil to starting in feb, not long! Here's to a sober 2014

Welcome saz sorry you've had a crappy year, you have come to the right place, berries are a good bunch

Oh happy how frustrating! I can't believe how different the FCs are.

Looking good mrs hedgehog slippers, i am well jel!

aquarius sorry to hear its taking a while to recover from your op, apart from a lot of burping I was very lucky. Until I moved sharply as the cats were fighting and popped a stitch!

Did somebody say list?!? Oh go on, it is Christmas!

Lady, 34, TTC since Jan 2012, unexplained, chemical after IVF#1, awaiting IVF#2
Bunny - 33, TTC since June 2012, DH low count, me PCO, ICSI starting very soon

Morning!

Er, well, hangover and regret is now very much in place. and my af is very heavy today. Should I count today as CD one or yesterday? I only ask because it arrived at 5pm yesterday and wasn't quite in 'full flow'...

Welcome to the berries, saz. Very sorry to hear you year has been tough, and I second what the others said about taking the leap and going for tests asap. Best to know what your situation is. How nice to have a newbie here!

aquarius - it's probs the general anaesthetic if you had it. Makes you gassy etc. hope you're feeling better soon.

barking reckon you should follow your instincts on the whole running thing. Maybe try and see someone else who's willing. To work with your lifestyle instead of trying to change it.

Could someone please add me to the list? On my phone and can't do it this end!

Feather, 34, ttc since Nov 2011, six rounds of clomid, bfp in November which ended in Ectopic. Deciding on next steps in early 2014

Ouch bunny that must've hurt!

feather hope you had a fun night & sorry about double whammy hangover & af. I'd count yesterday as cd1 even if it was just a slow start. Yep I had a GA - much better today, just bloated / swollen. Will stop moaning now.

Nice outfit mrsw!

rp hope you're enjoying the start of your lovely long break - what a treat

happy hope you managed to have a bit of fun at your work drinks and sorry about FC frustration- Can't believe 18 mths- but like you say, it's worth remembering you're still in with a chance of it happening naturally. I'm on about 20 mths ttc now & still hoping for that- have been a bit slow to get to Fc & don't really know what state my eggs/ hormones are in...

Can't do list either as on iPad-

Aquarius, 32, ttc 20mths, diagnosed with endo, awaiting follow up FC apptmt

Barking your running does sound wonderful, and probably (as you say) the best therapy for you anyway - maybe find a different needle lady! The first one I saw had the traditional Chinese aspect, where as the one I'm looking to go to with the IVF seems to be more of a western take on it - this lady used to be a midwife and seems really clued up on all aspects. Anyway, good luck on your week ahead - it seems very hectic!

Feather - WOW! Acu magic! That's great! I'd also count yesterday as CD1.

RP and other teacher berries (and any one else on a festive break!) hope you have a lovely, relaxing time!

Lady, 34, TTC since Jan 2012, unexplained, chemical after IVF#1, awaiting IVF#2

Bunny - 33, TTC since June 2012, DH low count, me PCO, ICSI starting very soon

Feather, 34, ttc since Nov 2011, six rounds of clomid, bfp in November which ended in Ectopic. Deciding on next steps in early 2014

Aquarius, 32, ttc 20mths, diagnosed with endo, awaiting follow up FC apptmt

Birdy, 30 - TTC around 26 cycles, DH low count, 1% morph, starting ICSI early 2014

Lady, 34, TTC since Jan 2012, unexplained, chemical after IVF#1, awaiting IVF#2
Bunny - 33, TTC since June 2012, DH low count, me PCO, ICSI starting very soon

Feather, 34, ttc since Nov 2011, six rounds of clomid, bfp in November which ended in Ectopic. Deciding on next steps in early 2014
Aquarius, 32, ttc 20mths, diagnosed with endo, awaiting follow up FC apptmt
Birdy, 30 - TTC around 26 cycles, DH low count, 1% morph, starting ICSI early 2014
Happylass, 35, 13 months of TTC but currently on a break due to wedding purposes. Starting back after one more cycle - sod the dress! Currently awaiting HSG.

Lady, 34, TTC since Jan 2012, unexplained, chemical after IVF#1, awaiting IVF#2
Bunny - 33, TTC since June 2012, DH low count, me PCO, ICSI starting very soon
Feather, 34, ttc since Nov 2011, six rounds of clomid, bfp in November which ended in Ectopic. Deciding on next steps in early 2014
Aquarius, 32, ttc 20mths, diagnosed with endo, awaiting follow up FC apptmt
Birdy, 30 - TTC around 26 cycles, DH low count, 1% morph, starting ICSI early 2014
Happylass, 35, 13 months of TTC but currently on a break due to wedding purposes. Starting back after one more cycle - sod the dress! Currently awaiting HSG.
Gillster, 39, TTC since Feb 2012. Just had fibroid removed but otherwise unexplained infertility. Starting short protocol IVF in Feb.

Can someone add me on please?

barkingtreefrog, 34, ttc since January 2012, clomid bfp ended in mc in Sept, cycles not returned since.

Lady, 34, TTC since Jan 2012, unexplained, chemical after IVF#1, awaiting IVF#2
Bunny - 33, TTC since June 2012, DH low count, me PCO, ICSI starting very soon
Feather, 34, ttc since Nov 2011, six rounds of clomid, bfp in November which ended in Ectopic. Deciding on next steps in early 2014
Aquarius, 32, ttc 20mths, diagnosed with endo, awaiting follow up FC apptmt
Birdy, 30 - TTC around 26 cycles, DH low count, 1% morph, starting ICSI early 2014
Happylass, 35, 13 months of TTC but currently on a break due to wedding purposes. Starting back after one more cycle - sod the dress! Currently awaiting HSG.
Gillster, 39, TTC since Feb 2012. Just had fibroid removed but otherwise unexplained infertility. Starting short protocol IVF in Feb.

barkingtreefrog, 34, ttc since January 2012, clomid bfp ended in mc in Sept, cycles not returned since.

anybody for warm cider?!?

Nice list

How is everyone?

I had awful tummy cramps earlier, hope AF doesn't come early, can't bear the thought of jabbing Christmas day

good plan bunny

Mmmm warm cider.... with hot mince pies.... I'm definitely getting my appetite back now

Sorry 'bout your cramps & do hope you're curled up comfortably with a hot water bottle. Fx it's not early af.

Hope everyone's had a nice w/e

Bunny on the bright side it would be cool when you get your bfp to think it all started on Christmas day .

^^

CD 19 here (going on when I spotted and started the clomid) but no +opk yet. Not sure whether I will ovulate or not with the clomid having not actually had an AF but I'm off to my parents' for xmas tomorrow morning so won't see DP again until CD22. I've never ovulated later than that. Not feeling particularly optimistic about this non cycle!!

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Hi everyone. just wanted to say have a good Christmas and wish everyone well and good luck for bfps in the New Yr. know a lot r starting ivf so I will keep everything crossed for you all.

Plenty of room in the copter when ur all ready!

Did somebody say warm cider?! Now that's how to draw me back onto the thread!!!

How is everyone? All ready for Xmas I hope? We weren't at all due to husband being AWOL for most of December! However, following a mad rush of a weekend, I think I'm almost there.

Just finished work and off to the MiL's first thing tomorrow. Shopping and wrapping all done, just need to pack it all now! Hoorah.

Hope you all have a wonderful Christmas and that 2014 is the year we all get out bfp's. I've got a good feeling about it!

*our not out, obvs!

Just got back from a Berry's worst nightmare .

Wedding celebration (couple who now live abroad got married this summer so had a UK party while they were home over Christmas for those who didn't make it).

1. First up it's DP's mate not mine. I've met him once. DP has met his new wife once. Neither of us knew anyone else there because the two other friends invited he would have known are both staying home for Christmas as they have a baby due.

1. It's a baby and bump bonanza. Lots of cooing over babies. 3 obviously pg women. The summer bride now has a small neat bump. Obviously diffed within 2 months of the wedding . .

1. Sat next to baby on my right, and DP sat next to bump on his left.

1. Topics of conversation on our table include 'what age did you stop breastfeeding?' - 'Isn't it cool that 3 of us are all going to be first time dad's within 4 months of each other' - 'since being pg I've....'

1. Talking to DP's mate about houses, having visited a mutual friend yesterday who has just moved into a new house with his fiance, we were saying how we loved our house and didn't want to move. 'Well you always think your house will be fine for when you have kids until you actually have one on the way'. Hmm. Was so tempted to say 'well actually we did have a kid on the way' but didn't think it an appropriate conversation for his wedding party....

I'm amazed that I got through it without needing to run to the toilet in tears! Keep thinking of the 'live in the present and enjoy every day' message, no point regretting what is past or lost plans you had for the future. Life will happen, best to enjoy it as much as possible .