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Angels and Rainbows-remembering our angels and hoping for rainbows

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Star0909 · 29/10/2013 09:27

New thread ladies. Come in here for support.

OP posts:
kayleighferrie1985 · 16/08/2014 17:20

Thank you blue i've had angel wings done with Ben's name, the date he was born and the inscription "born with wings" in between the wings. If i can get to my mum's computer soon i'll upload a picture :) xx

EarthWindAnd9 · 16/08/2014 20:14

Kayleigh-I had loads of hair loss after F was born and at the moment it is pretty bad too, I have to clear out my hairbrush every day and I get a handful of hair each time. It's so annoying but I think it's pretty normal. Well done for getting the tattoo, I'm so glad you like it.

Blue-sorry you are finding it so tough. I found my pregnancy totally isolating and felt the worry was entirely my burden, it's a hard and lonely road. You are doing so well and we are all here for you so please offload if it helps.

Critter-your friend does sound wise, I've never heard that phrase before, but "exhausting" sums it up pretty well. How are you doing?

Waves to everyone else x

EarthWindAnd9 · 18/08/2014 00:28

I can't sleep.... Every time I close my eyes I'm in the hospital, in the sonographer's office and she's telling me she is sorry. The worst day of my life.

Ducky23 · 18/08/2014 06:49

Earth ThanksThanksThanks hope you managed to get some sleep without having these flash backs x

kayleighferrie1985 · 18/08/2014 09:35

Earth sending hugs, i hope you managed to get some sleep eventually xx

BlueSkyandRain · 18/08/2014 10:29

Flowers earth I hope you managed to get some sleep in the end. Those flashbacks just come out of nowhere sometimes don't they?
I really should look on here when I can't sleep, would be able to keep each other company. I had a headache last night & was convinced it was the beginnings of preeclampsia. Much better now tho & I've got a mw appt this afternoon so I'll mention it just in case.
Brew

Ducky23 · 18/08/2014 17:13

Just got home to find a letter reminding me how it's time to start weaning my baby Sad

kayleighferrie1985 · 18/08/2014 17:24

Oh, hugs ducky xx

MademoiselleG · 18/08/2014 17:27

Ogdear Earth , bluesky and ducky , sounds like you all needs big warm hugs. ((((((Biiiig hugs)))))))

I'm so sorry that things are so tough still. I wish none of us were here.

I'm currently having to find all the strength I can to not scream at my pg SIL (due 3 weeks before I should be) who is whining to everyone about how exhausting it is to be pg with gestational diabetes and 2 kids. I want to scream. Oh and apparently she's so upset about what we've been through that she has to be comforted about it every day on the phone. Not that I'd know: she doesn't speak to me anymore. She must think it's contagious? Booohooo, poor little pregnant-with-healthy-baby SIL, I really feel her pain - she's managed to make it all about HER a-gain. I'm starting to bloody hate her. I think it's at the stage where nothing she says will be ok. I hope it's not forever...

Sending love to everyone else and hoping you're ok ThanksThanksThanksThanks

Rubyshoe · 18/08/2014 18:08

Oh no, so much anxiety around. Blue, Earth and Ducky so sorry to hear you are all having a tough time. Earth you are right those words I think too many of us have heard "I'm sorry, I can't find a heartbeat" they are haunting. Every scan we have I have to say please tell me as soon as you can find a heartbeat. It lives with you forever.
Blue hope your MW appointment went ok, every day we are a step closer.
Ducky boo to junk mail that is sent without thinking. I can't imagine anyone on this thread will be signing up for anything ever again!
Mad I'm so sorry about your SIL, gosh, carrying a healthy baby, how is she coping? If you've fought the urge to slap her I reckon you are doing well, can your DH have a word? is it his sister?
AFM doing ok, as of tomorrow it will be 25 days till cuddles, we hope. Still haven't got anything out or washed anything. At this rate we will be wrapping this baby in chip wrappers and bringing it home on the roof rack! Could it actually work out Ok this time?

kayleighferrie1985 · 18/08/2014 19:24

mademoiselle sorry about your SIL- i take it from your post she often makes things all about her?
Glad you're doing ok ruby

Waves to everyone xx

MademoiselleG · 18/08/2014 19:48

Ha Kayleigh, yes she does! She's one of 5 but it's always about HER! (And she is indeed dh's sister and he has had words. This is the new, improved version!...) Anyway...

Ruby 25 days?? Oh how exciting. Of course it WILL go ok. Life can be shit and bloody unfair but surely not THAT unfair? I'm thinking of you and really, really looking forward to your update.

kayleighferrie1985 · 18/08/2014 20:06

Oh Mademoiselle i also know someone like that, but she's an only child like me. The day she found out about Ben she rang me- 5 minutes into the conversation she proceeded to tell me all about her recent house move [hmmm]

EarthWindAnd9 · 18/08/2014 20:10

Hi everyone, thanks for sympathies, but it seems like it's been a tough day all round.
Hugs to Mad, Ducky and Blue.

Ruby-25 days! The countdown is on. And have you not heard NHS is changing guidance on car seats-roof racks are now totally acceptable Wink
xxxxxx

Ducky23 · 18/08/2014 20:42

25 days!!! GrinGrinGrin

Ducky23 · 18/08/2014 20:43

And m sorry about your completely idiotic SIL Confused people can be idiots! ThanksThanksThanks X

MademoiselleG · 18/08/2014 22:23

Ruby whereabouts are you? I'm sure one of us could come round to peek off the crisp poachers and give your little cherub a decent going-home outfit. It will happen. It will go well. You're in my prayers (as is everyone else on here) ThanksThanks

Big hugs and waves to everyone. You guys are such good people. We all deserve better times soon xx

missalexandra · 21/08/2014 11:55

Hello Ladies, sorry for being AWOL for a while, been having a bit of a mega-wobble

Ruby gosh you are so close to holding your rainbow Smile yes, it will work out fine this time! Dont worry about the chip wrappers the only important thing is that your little one arrives safe. Sorry to hear about your Mums crap reaction to H's birthday. Sending you and DH a big nearly-there hug

Blue sorry to hear youve been having a tough time these last few days. I know what you mean about being overwhelmed once again by the grief, seems thats whats happening to me too. How did the MW visit go? did you start with the pyscologist and does it help? I'm still seeing mine, if nothing else its just a place where you dont have to feel guilty/uncomfy talking about your loss and having a good old cry. Nearly-there hugs for you too

Earth hope youre feeling a bit better, those flashbacks are so hard to bear. I wonder if they ever go away completely? How is your little man?

Ducky How are you doing? I often get calls from magazines/freebies I registered with, they seem to have a standard response ready, it so p*es me off when they say how sorry they are in a happy, sing-song voice Angry

Kayleigh well done on getting Bens tattoo done even though you were scared. Sounds like youve been dealt a pretty crap hand in the past, I so hope your future is better ((hugs)) I've never had hair loss but in the past DH lost huge clumps and was told it was down to stress. It grew back again and is fine now. How is your Mum?

Mademoiselle your cherry tree memorial sounds a lovely way to remember G. I completely understand your not particularly wanting to have many people there, we were the same in fact we decided to only have us two there it was just too hard to share with anyone. So sorry to hear about your Dads comment, I have reached the decision I might need a tattoo on my forehead saying "NO I dont need to just get on with life thank you"... that bloody comment has been so regular Angry especially from my MIL. By the way your SIL needs a good slap

Lady how are you doing? Its good that youve been told you only need to wait 3 months before TTC, I was told 12 months post section. Did the house move go well? can only imagine the stress of that on top of everything else youre coping with.

Critter how awful for your Mum, I suppose things were done so diffeently back then but still I can imagine how she must have suffered over the years wondering what her little one was like. So sad. How are you doing? any news on the TTC front?

Betty i think it took me about 3 months to go back to normal periods after my section, and the first ones were really quite heavy then went back to light. Have yours settled yet?

AFM been having a a really tough few days, just been hit head-on by a huge wave of grief again, plus the worries. Feeling quite regular movement now but still no definite pattern, and now I have got it into my head that when I feel the really strong kicks/punches that its because the baby has got the cord wrapped round his neck and is choking, or is not receiving enough oxygen and is trying to let me know he is about to die or something equally awful. Utterly fatalistic and pessimistic I know, but just cant seem to help it. Why cant I just be happy that I'm feeling strong movements?? Confused Been diagnosed with gestational diabetes, have started the diet and checking blood 4 times a day. The diet is quite easy (lost a kilo already) but the worrying part is both the obstet and the endocrinologist have told me it slightly raises my chance of another stillbirth, so anxiety levels have gone even higher than they already were.

Waves to all and apologies to people I've missed x

kayleighferrie1985 · 21/08/2014 12:21

Thank you MissA things with my mum are still the same, but as i've said before that will probably never change now, so i'm just accepting the fact, which means i'm not getting so stressed about it all. A few people have said the hair loss could be stress so i'll just keep an eye on it for now.

Sorry to hear you've had a tough time recently and that the gestational diabetes diagnosis is worrying you. Just to clarify- have the doctors said that the GD raises chances of a stillbirth?

Waves to all xx

blizy · 21/08/2014 12:30

This thread popped up inactive convos and I thought is pop in and say hi. I was a regular here after my dd was stillborn in 2011, I was ttc for three years and had started fertility treatment by lo and behold I conceived naturally, I'm now 17 weeks pregnant with my little rainbow.

Miss, lovely to see you here again. Glad to here you are pregnant too, I fully understand your worries, it's utterly terrifying isn't it?

Made, hi my lovely. I'm so glad you have found this thread, it was literally a lifesaver to me and many over ladies following the loss of our precious babies. I hope you are getting all of the support you need. Your fil. Sounds like a right charmer, we used to call the don't have a clues (dhac).
Positive vibes to all of you wonderful ladies.

EarthWindAnd9 · 21/08/2014 14:30

Waves to blizy.

MissA, I'm so sorry that you've been worrying and now have the GD diagnosis to top it off. My understanding is that GD raises the risk of stillbirth if not managed and you are following the diet and doing the tests so managing it well. I know 3 ladies who had GD with their rainbow babies and all 3 rainbows arrived safely. I realise this wont help you when you are in the grips of panic, but maybe it will be a slight comfort in your stronger moments. Big hugs to you x

Thanks for asking after my little man, he's in a grump today (lack of sleep) but generally he's a happy boy. He's almost 6mths now, the time has just flown by.

Rubyshoe · 21/08/2014 19:09

Blizy thanks for giving us all a poke to get us posting again! It is always lovely to hear again from people who have been on this thread in the past.

Earth hope you are doing ok. The flashbacks hit you when you least expect them don't they? I know I have been thinking a lot about the moment H was born and the 'thud' as she hit the bed, I just remember thinking "dead weight..... She's a dead weight" and the sound at the crematorium f the bolts being pulled across the door as we left, locking her in there on her own. I mentioned it to a colleague recently and she just said "Well that's just grief though isn't it?" I had to say "no, I don't think it is really" it's more than that as we all know. Sending you hugs and Thanks when times are tough x

MissA sorry you have been having a tough time, we won't breathe properly or believe it's real until they are in our arms will we? How is the monitoring and diet going?

Kaylieigh hope you are doing ok! I had quite a lot of hair loss after H, the hairdresser actually commented on the amount that was coming out, seemed to settle down though. How is your Mum?

Ducky, Blue how are you guys doing?

AFM had scan on Tuesday and saw Consultant, all looked good except amount of fluid around baby was 'low'. They want to recheck fluid and dopplers of blood flow to placenta next week and recheck again and measure for growth as well the week after. Bear is moving well though and growth was on target this week so hopefully it was a one off. The Consultant very kindly 'offered' to do a speculum to check my waters hadn't gone...... It's not something I'd ever have thought I'd be keen to have but I said yes please! Figured it was better than going home and my mind running riot! 21 days to go (not that I'm counting!)

Waves to all and sorry for not name checking everyone x

kayleighferrie1985 · 21/08/2014 20:58

Thanks ruby luckily i have (or had) thick hair so the loss isn't noticeable (i hope!). My mum is much the same, has already texted me asking if i'll be going to the shops tomorrow Hmm
Glad to hear you're doing ok :)

AFM back waiting to see if AF arrives in 2 weeks, but got lots to keep me occupied in the meantime as DS1 starts school in September bless him. I won't know what to do with my self once both DD and DS are at school.

Waves to all xx

MademoiselleG · 22/08/2014 00:06

Evening all. Sorry for the selfish post (again! - I promise I'm a nice Ireson really and will answer and name check properly when I'm back home and on a computer rather than phone!) but just feeling really low this evening. Had a massive row with my dad who mentioned that although he had sympathy for our 'situation' - I told him to man up and use proper words: the death of our baby is NOT a situation!- I should stop living in the past and blah...blah... The argument wasn't even about that, but I just can't bloody believe him. I guess I'm just sad and disappointed with him and was hoping he'd be different. Normal. A kind and loving dad. Ah well. Yet another thing I need to bury!
A colleague also texted me about work and said she hopes I'm having a blast on holiday (we are teachers)...Seriously?? She knows the whole story. I texted back a very short response and she was clearly miffed as her own response was v. curt, so I apologised for the previous short text and said I was actually having a tough day and missing my baby very much. She hasn't responded. She also never responded to my text about our baby's birth/death (she asked!). I guess some people don't know what to say but a simple 'I'm sorry' would do.
I'm so angry and sad. Sorry for venting and totally obliterating everything else that has been written but like blizy (hello!!) said: it's the 'don't have a clues' - they really don't. Why is it just us guys who get it? I guess I should just stop expecting people to react appropriately.

Thank goodness for my little girl. I could cry (I am) I love her so much. I'm tempted to pick her up and cuddle her right now.

Big waves and comforting hugs to you all and apologies (again) for barging in with my 'issues'. Thanks

Rubyshoe · 22/08/2014 07:32

Mad I'm so sorry about the responses you have had from your Dad and your friend. It's so difficult particularly when it is family and our parents. There is always an expectation when we are little that Mum and Dad can make it 'Ok' and then we grow up that at least they will be on our side. It's really hard when we have to deal with the fact that ultimately we may be stronger than they are. At 'H' funeral my Dad actually asked if 'legally' we had to have a funeral. I do know where he is coming from but Christ what do you think we are going to do with her Dad? she was full-term and 7lb 1oz and she's dressed in a gap dungarees suit! Shall we just pop her in the clinical waste bin with the placenta? Only some friends get it as well I think, peoples lives move on VERY quickly and it naturally takes us much much longer because we have lived through it. The only good thing I have found is that the few friends and relatives who did 'get it' I have a whole new appreciation and love for and that is positive I guess. Sending you love and strength x