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TTC 10 months + Part 17.

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MuddyWellyNelly · 25/09/2013 16:49

For all the lovely 10+ers, and anyone else lurking, who has been trying for long enough to start worrying. This is a great place to rest until the elusive BFP shows up.

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lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 04/10/2013 08:15

Morning lovelies!

Just popping in to say GOOD LUCK and offer handholds to cos and joy scary, but hopefully good, days ahead for both of you.

Welcome home euro. Sorry about the ominous dates. I know the feeling. I nearly killed my sister when she immediately calculated my due date - something I'd been holding off til after the scan - but she couldn't help it entirely, it'd be 2 weeks before my youngest nephew, her last baby. So the dates sounded very familiar to her.

Good chats on DE, joy I agree with nelly and rabbit it all seems a bit quick for you. I really hope you won't need to think about it after today.

Good the cry came out rabbit, it needed to. I am sure 3 weeks is enough to get sorted out with all the stuff. When we started our fresh round the clinic got confused and put us down for IUI, we managed to switch on our first appointment...

AFM I am still shattered and find it scary to wipe as I am afraid of finding blood. Still shell-shocked there is none yet.

rumisyum · 04/10/2013 09:46

Morning ladies! How's tricks? My laptop has died in the night so a paltry phone catch up will have to suffice while I try to get through my fannying-on-the-internet-on-my-laptop withdrawal. Confused

Good luck today joy! And also for your scan cos! Everything crossed for you both.

The DE discussions are so interesting to read. I've nothing to add, but am really struck by how utterly wonderful your friend is nelly. You've got someone amazing in your life there. Smile

Welcome back euro! Enjoy your days to catch up.

And welcome back sea! Glad the humira's over and you had a bit of a break from thinking if TTC. It's so freeing when that happens.

rabbit it sounds like a good cry was needed. Keep taking care of yourself. And as for all those bits at the start of a cycle, my clinic seems to just do it all at quite short notice once you're given the go-ahead, so 3 weeks will be plenty of time, I imagine.

I can't remember who asked as I can't scroll back but I'm just waiting for my period to show up before having a repeat scan & deciding if we can proceed. Another week to twiddle my thumbs & be stuck in not-quite-there-yet limbo! Hey ho.

Waves & tail feather fluffs to everyone.

eurochick · 04/10/2013 09:48

I have been catching up on the past 10 days. It has been a tough time for you all, with small doses of good news thrown in. I'm going to attempt a full catch up post, but there is a lot to consider so sorry to anyone I miss!

Hurrah for drizz's BFP! Insomnia was always my strongest symptom - I even get it for a couple of days from the trigger shot.

rabbit that appointment sounds like it was really hard, but as others have said, you really do one need one egg to get there with IVF.

Don't blame your ED. I'm sure the dr is right. My housemate from yooni had a severe ED and was hospitalised a number of times. She managed 2 kids in her mid to late 30s.

joy I'll have everything crossed for you. You sound very brave with the gestone!

mrsd I feel for you on the grey hair comment. I have it too and am allergic to hair dye, so all I can have is highlights with foils so the dye doesn't sit on my scalp. I'm not sure how that is going to work as the grey becomes more prevalent. And to top it all off they guy at passport control on the way back yesterday spent ages peering at my photo before announcing it looked nothing like me. Well it was taken when I was 29 and I'm now 37 and haven't slept properly in 10 days, so fuck off to the far side of fuck. Harrumph.

pout it is a kind of bereavement - you're mourning the life you thought you would have.

cos I can't believe that you have more worry to deal with. Surely us long-termers are due an easy ride once we get our BFPs?

mad I'm glad things are going well.

gin the strep B can be well taken care of during labour. One of my friends had it and a superfast labour so they only got some of the antibiotics into her before the birth. The baby was given the rest afterwards. And he is absolutely fine now.

nelly I'm sorry that your stealth cycle didn't work out. What an amazing offer from your friend! My bestie put the idea of being a surrogate for me in my head and mentioned it a few times but the last time said that her husband had pointed out that she wasn't very good at birth (she had 2 sections) so he's basically ruled it out. I'm not sure I could have asked it of her anyway. She's had some other health problem (just had an ovary removed due to endo) so I think she has been through enough without asking her to go through another pregnancy. But egg donation is a whole different ball game and I think it would be wonderful to have a good friend as a donor.

buzz and critter I hope you are both cooking your buns nicely.

doll what a wonderful piece of luck! Hopefully little doll will see this baby as a positive thing now! How's the GD?

Welcome back absy and hello newbie.

I'm at home today. Looking forward to having a fairly quiet one. Although I do have to do my tax return.

My hearing went fairly well. The press were there one day, but I managed to avoid them, so there were no pap photos. I did manage to stumble through the middle of some shoot for Paris fashion week though. The models were so skinny they looked like if I had sneezed near them they would have fallen over! I'm going to try to get myself a massage later. My back is awful. And now I am going to start on a health kick and spent the next three months focussing on me (as opposed to trying to get a mini-me). I need to deal with the fact that I have eaten enough pastry to sink a battle ship over the past couple of weeks!

I have appointments at existing and possible new clinics next week and to be honest I am not looking forward to getting back on the AC train at all. It has been good not really thinking about it much for the past few weeks. But time ticks on, so we really should get on with exploring our options.

Absy · 04/10/2013 11:24

I have some questions for you experienced TTCers:
I'm having the HyCoSy test on Tuesday next week, and DH is going back to have another sperm analysis (or not, he was trying to book an appointment and they said if he's had a fever or more than 38 degrees it can affect the results so he might have to wait three more months).

What other tests are there after this? So far I've had blood and other tests to assess my hormone levels (which were in the normal range), and then the HyCoSy to see if there's no issues with my fallopian tubes.

If that comes back negative, what other checks can be done?

eurochick · 04/10/2013 11:31

For me it was just blood tests, an internal ultrasound, a HSG and an internal and that was it.

Absy · 04/10/2013 11:33

Thanks for the article Cosmos - that's really interesting.

I've been trying to cut down on sugar and wheat (as someone, sorry I can't remember who) suggested on the previous 10+ers thread, and my cycles seem to be a more regular length the past two months (before they were all over the place). This is a good excuse to eat a massive breakfast

seamermaid · 04/10/2013 14:16

Any news Joy?
Cos - How did it go?

MuddyWellyNelly · 04/10/2013 15:32

Euro how lovely of your friend to offer but I can see that it doesn't sound ideal. It's mind-blowing that people offer such things though isn't it? Glad the hearing went well and you weren't papped. I am sorry about due dates. I know what you mean about not wanting to get back on to AC. I spent so much time desperate to get on the train, and then you just want to get off again.

Absy Euro has covered the normal stuff. I had an AMh but that was because my FSh was high. I had an NHS dildo-cam at which point they said everything was normal on my ovaries. Which is weird as 3 months later I had an official Antral Follicle Count at which I was labelled as fooked.

Sea I too am nervously checking for updates. I am so hoping for good news from both our lovely 10+ers.

In Donor news we've had a few theoretical back and forwards. I think we are ok with it. The questions now are do we want to go to DE now or still do a LP, and is it even going to be possible due to her age (yet she has 2 young children conceived easily). We still have to save up in any case. The cheaper option would be to get the Turkey baster out and get her to do all the hard work Winkbut actually I have a yearning for the pregnancy, not just a baby.

I am very glad it's Friday. We have had quite a week in the Nelly house.

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Cosmos1 · 04/10/2013 16:04

Well I'm sad to report it wasn't good news. And no epu appts available so need to let nature take its course. It got to 7 weeks but not beyond.

ThatWayMadnessLies · 04/10/2013 16:15

Oh cos I am so sorry Sad. Please take care of yourself. The others will be along with good advice I'm sure. This whole process is so unfair.

MuddyWellyNelly · 04/10/2013 16:20

Cos :( :( :(

I was so hoping it was going to be good news for you. I am so sorry. We are all here for you. Oh it's so bloody unfair. Xxx

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sarlat · 04/10/2013 16:25

Cos sweetheart, how terribly sad for you both. I am so sorry. Now is not the time to think about the next plan of action but please be reassured that this is a normal part of normal fertility and not just another longterm ttc problem iyswim. Please take time out of work and time to grieve. It is a big shock. The tears may or may not come but just allow yourself to do whatever feels nice and comfy and relaxing. Make sure you have some strong painkillers and keep talking with dh. I so desperately hoped this wouldn't be the outcome. We are all here for you. Xxxx

Ginestas · 04/10/2013 16:25

Oh cos, I'm heart broken for you. It's so fucking unfair. Lots of love to you and Mr C xx

seamermaid · 04/10/2013 16:28

Cos, I am not going to say anything that can make you feel any better. A big hug to you and MrCos. I am sad and shock and pissed off at the unfairness on your behalf. Know that we are all here for you. Huge non MN hug. Sad

mrsden · 04/10/2013 16:38

Cos, I'm so, so sorry. I really hoped for good news for you.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 04/10/2013 16:48

So sorry, cos! I wish I could take this hurt away. It is terrible. As for practicalities, I am happy to share, but when you're ready for them! Huge hugs!

rabbitonthemoon · 04/10/2013 17:25

Oh cos. I'm so sorry. This just doesn't feel right or just. Sometimes the online forum world doesn't feel enough to sufficiently comfort. We are all here for you to talk to and can easily pick up a phone if that would help. You are a lovely lovely person and don't deserve this. I'll be thinking of you.

CritterPants · 04/10/2013 17:56

Cos my heart sank when I read this. I hate that you've been tortured like this and I am so terribly sorry you are going through it. Do take some time off work if you can. Much much love and thoughts to you. I wish I could say something to give you some comfort.

sweetgrouch · 04/10/2013 18:00

I want to start by letting Cos know how sorry I am. I was really hoping for a different outcome. Big hugs to you and Mr.C.

Nelly - your friend made a really kind offer, it's so nice that you have such wonderful support in RL.

Gin - I'm sorry about the worry, but I want to reassure you that knowing about the Strep B is ideal from a medical standpoint. The Drs will definitely be able to take care of it.

Euro - Glad to hear that your trial went so well and that you managed to avoid the paps.

Joy - I'm thinking of you and hoping for the best.

Lemon - Huge congratulations. Sadly, I don't think the fear of blood ever goes away - I still check at every wipe Blush...

Rabbit - Your appointment sounds like it was a horrible shock. I'm so sorry it was so rough.

Doll - I can't believe you're full term! Other peoples pregnancies do go faster than your own. I'm glad everything worked out for little Doll.

A short catchup because I have been neglecting the thread because of work responsibilities.

eurochick · 04/10/2013 19:29

cos I am so, so sorry. Be kind to yourself.

sweet it's good to "see" you. How are you doing?

Buzzybee123 · 04/10/2013 20:19

cos I am so sorry to hear that, big hugs x

mrsden · 04/10/2013 20:25

I have so much I want to say but no time just now for a proper catch up. I will try to write a proper post over the weekend.

Cos, I'm thinking of you tonight.

Joy, any news? I'm thinking of you too.

I had the injection for downregging today. The drug was enantone which I think is the same as prostap. It says it can be used to treat endometriosis too. The nurse at the clinic gave me the injection so that saved me one stress. A scan is booked for two weeks time the hopefully stimming will start. I think this could be a long two weeks.

joycep · 04/10/2013 20:37

Cos - I am just so unbelievably sorry. No words can make it better. After all thsi time, It is just so cruel and unjust , it makes me so f'ing angry this has happened to such a lovely person. Please look after yourself. I found having a lovely warm bath very comforting. It does get better, I promise. Sending you and MrC much love.

Euro - welcome back, good to have you back.

Sorry for radio silence. Have had no Internet and barely had reception today. Clinic called only just heard them as poor reception. BFN. My hcg is 3 so it is a chemical. Just need to go in for a blood test next week to confirm it has gone down to zero. I am fine about it. I knew it was negative.. Perhaps it will hit me later on but as I have a super busy weekend full of extra curricular activities i have no time to cry about it. I’m not sure where we go from here though.i f supposedly the best clinic that tailors treatment can’t get good embies then it doesn't give much hope. (Will try and formulate a new plan next week).

Anyway, once again Cos I am thinking of you and hoping you are baring up.

rabbitonthemoon · 04/10/2013 20:59

Joycep - big hug lady. It sucks that this has not worked for you and I feel so cross with your clinic in a diffused way as I don't think they've had your emotional well being high enough up their list of priorities. I'm glad you are already thinking what next and that your weekend sounds distracting.

I spoke to a social worker about adoption in my area today. It felt strange. I feel deep down that is where we are headed but maybe I'm wrong. I just read a recent guardian article on ivf. Anyone else read that? It didn't fill my heart with cheer. But it did raise important points about how invisible couples who fail ivf are. It is a private, silent world. Thank god for places like this.

Wave to den and rum.

MuddyWellyNelly · 04/10/2013 21:05

Joy :(. I am so sorry. You sound very composed, but you know where to find us if and when it hits. Oh I am so sad for the awful luck on the thread today. This is so unfair.

Cos I hope you and Mr C Are as ok as can be expected. I am thinking of you both so much. I hate that the lovely 10 +ers have to go through so much pain, even now after everything we've already suffered.

I've had my own wail today. The cruel and to-the-point letter arrived from the clinic. I'm so fed up of hurdles and bad news and decisions and fighting and paying and failing and crying. And yet....I can't quite let go. I read an article in the clinic waiting room a few months ago, about a woman who had 19 goes at IVF. I fear that this may be me Confused.

I'm on the wine tonight, and having my hair done tomorrow. At least science has figured out a way to solve that problem....

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