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TTC 10 months + Part 17.

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MuddyWellyNelly · 25/09/2013 16:49

For all the lovely 10+ers, and anyone else lurking, who has been trying for long enough to start worrying. This is a great place to rest until the elusive BFP shows up.

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lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 11/11/2013 16:05

And we had a fertilisation rate with IVF of only 66% (but there was no separation of ripe vs unripe eggs beforehand and they harvested a lot more eggs than expected).

rabbitonthemoon · 11/11/2013 16:06

Wow lemon 10 + 2! I'm so glad for you. I hope you are being able to enjoy it and that you get a sneeze birth ending Smile

I will not be doing anything ivfy until spring and if we go donor it will prob tip into summer I imagine, maybe more. I need a break and work juggling in this busy term has been HORRENDOUS and one of the most stressful things about this whole process. If ec had been Thursday we didn't know what on earth we would have done as H couldn't have been there v easily. Big fat phew today in the scan room. And, if we move to donor I want to reclaim my life and quit all the 'but what if it's ruining my eggs' things. I miss hot yoga, drinks without guilt, hottest baths and feeling like I need to be uber pure. The last six weeks I've eaten even more like Gillian Mckeith with one slip up over a fun sized mars bar (which I cried about). You would hope that this would have made Boris shiny but it just doesn't follow. I want to properly 'relax' and remember what it feels like not to try. I also want to get counselling/life coaching about donor conception and explore it all very carefully. It almost feels liberating to think I could stop being so bloody strict with myself.

Mrsden · 11/11/2013 16:10

That's interesting that they didn't sort the eggs out. Was it one egg per dish? And a big dollop of sperm in each dish? They only bothered to do icsi on 11 of my eggs, I have to trust them that the other seven were unusable. Did you have set, lemons? And was it a blasto? That's wonderful that you get an extra scan. Exciting times!

eurochick · 11/11/2013 16:10

Clexane is a blood thinner. My clinic seems to prescribe it quite routinely, but I refused it and just took low dose aspirin instead. I've had all the tests for blood clotting disorders and they were all fine, so it didn't see, worthwhile to take it. I'll see if they still recommend it this time round.

drizz that's great news - you can be "a normal"!

rabbit IVF is intense - no question.

Mrsden · 11/11/2013 16:17

I really don't fancy getting a clot so I've been happy to take it. My blood clotting is usually fine but ohss and the Ivf drugs increase the risk. I've had no side effects so far. The dr had quite a long chat with dh while I was coming round about the benefits of clexane and improved outcomes.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 11/11/2013 16:22

Not quite a normal yet, euro. Still this week to go Wink but it is a strange thought not that I've told my GP I am diffed yet, so there might be a bit of oil needed to get the wheels turning if all goes well.

Yes, mrsd, SET, as it is funded and I am "young". It was an early blasto on day 4 (and had been frozen, my fresh round was a chem diffment after a SET of an day 3, 8-cell embryo). Also, maybe they did sort them out, but didn't tell us. We heard the number of eggs at EC, then called the clinic to see whether there would be a transfer 2dpEC, fresh transfer 3dpEC, at transfer they told us the number of fertilisations, news about frosties came later that week by letter, but they had told us it was very likely we'd get some).

ThatWayMadnessLies · 11/11/2013 18:35

Popping in with a hand for rabbit. It is so surreal doing ivf. Your entire life is taken over and the highs and lows can be intense. Enjoy your drug free day tomorrow and I will be willing Boris to contain that golden egg. One step at a time. You are making it to ec.

Mrsd I had no symptoms before bfp. My boobs started inflating afterwards. I still haven't had many symptoms and I'm 13 weeks today. Don't lose faith xx

lemon I only told my gp today. You can ring the midwives directly to arrange booking appointments and scans. The clinic should give you the number when you're discharged to the land of normals :)

rabbitonthemoon · 11/11/2013 18:56

Thanks mad. I love having yours and lemons cheering me on. So I trigger at 11.15 and have just had my last highly ineffective Menopur and cetrotide. One more stab!

Mrsden · 11/11/2013 19:11

I only had to do the trigger on trigger day, three in one day is a lot of stabbing! Almost over now, and you should do something nice tomorrow to celebrate non-stabby day.

Hi mad, that's good to know you had no symptoms. I can't believe you're 13 weeks already. I don't suppose it's going so fast for you though.

rabbitonthemoon · 11/11/2013 19:33

Yes I am running out of spare tummy now. Am hoping hcg is non stingy. My boobs are amazing, they have never been this big in my whole life. I will miss my ivf boobs.

freedom2011 · 11/11/2013 21:30

c'mon Boris.

joycep · 11/11/2013 21:52

Comes in waving flag for Boris and the little Dens.
Rabbit - you are doing brilliantly well and you should be very proud of yourself. It is intense especially when trying to balance work but you are nearly there.
Mrsd - hang on in there. The wait is horrible but no symtoms mean nothing. Am routing for both of you - all the way.

Mad/lemon - lovely having you waving from sidelines.

Was listening to Queen's We are the Champions and thought of all of us on here - we have paid our dues, time after time......but WE are the champions my friends, and we will keep on fighting, Til the end!!

seamermaid · 11/11/2013 22:17

Well done rabbit! Come on Boris.
Go go go! Big huggie and handhold for lovely furry rabbit. x

seamermaid · 12/11/2013 08:35

Forgot to say last night I hope Mrsd 2ww isn't driving you too crazy. As for no symptoms - docs and acu have told me that most of the supposed "symptoms" women have before a period aren't reliable. Plenty of people get pregnant with none at all. Don't read too much into it. Know we are all cheering for your embies! X

rabbitonthemoon · 12/11/2013 09:49

Thanks everyone. I'm triggered. No more jabs! The hcg stung the worst of all. But all done now. I'm very very sleepy today.

Sea how are you? Still yoga ing? If this goes the way the clinic keep telling me it will then I'm getting myself back in bikram shape and feel quite excited about that.

Joy I loved your lovely pep talk and that you thought of us as champions Smile sometimes I wonder how I haven't cracked up or lost the plot but no, we all just keep going and it is awe inspiring really, the resilience and strength on this thread. I often wonder how some people I know would fare on this path.

Thank you free Thanks

eurochick · 12/11/2013 10:37

Hurrah! Not long to go now then rabbit.

joy I'm loving the cheerleading. I recently bought Queen's Greatest Hits for driving music. My dad always played it when I was a kid, and consequently I turned my back on it for 20 years. I have only recently decided that it is good music after all!

mrsd I'm not sure if I will take it this time. There was really no point before - not only am I negative for clotting disorders but I wasn't on drugs so at no risk of blood clots. I'll see how strongly the clinic pushes it this time.

Cosmonaut1 · 12/11/2013 10:59

Rabbit well done you lovely, am so pleased you're still going and coping so well, glad you've now finished with the stabs! Will be thinking of you to or row and will have everything crossed for you.

MrsD am willing your little embies on, I'm another one that had no symptoms, you really can't tell until test day. When are you testing? Is it a home one or blood test?

Mad and Lemons so pleased all is still going well, hope you're managing to enjoy it now too.

Joy and Euro I love a bit of Queen too.

Waves all round. I have a review appt at my clinic tomorrow.

eurochick · 12/11/2013 15:40

How are you feeling about the appointment Cos?

Cosmonaut1 · 12/11/2013 15:57

Well I'm expecting him to say we should do Ivf again (especially as we would be paying this time) and that he'll probably blame our embies, and more particularly my eggs, as that seemed to be his line last time. He's not particularly dynamic or experimental, though adding the gestone was his idea. I'm seeing him at a different location so don't have to face going back to where the last bad scan was just yet. I think we'll see how it goes before deciding whether to see another clinic or not.

Euro how's the job prospect going, are you still in talks? I ended up applying for that job and have got an interview. I still can't decide if it would be a good thing to have a change or bad timing. I do fancy it though.

rabbitonthemoon · 12/11/2013 21:29

Cos good luck tomorrow.

I've done a bad thing and gorged on fertility friends to come away with a sense of impending doom that I'm still in the foothills of the beast mountain that is long term trying. My mood has shifted in 24 hours from pragmatic to defeated and scared. Maybe it's the trigger hormone.

eurochick · 12/11/2013 22:18

I'm glad you're not having to go back to the same place. I found that pretty tough.

The discussions are still ongoing. I still feel pretty ambivalent about it. If it happens, it'll be a great opportunity. If the IVF works, it'll be terrible timing. So che sera sera.

seamermaid · 12/11/2013 23:19

Rabbit. Step away from internet. You have been so so brave. Channel your yogic side and take it as it comes.
No yoga for me these days. I'm manic at work but I'm not complaining as happy to have the distraction.

Euro. I hope you get the role. Of course if you get bfp it wouldn't be great timing but what a lovely problem to have.

Cos. Good luck with the interview. I say go for it. I think back to all the things I almost didn't do in the last 4 years in case I got pregnant. So glad I did them. Hope the follow up is useful.

Waves to all other 10 plussers.

Afm not much to report. Another Cytokine test tomorrow. Let's see how this one goes.

ThatWayMadnessLies · 13/11/2013 06:34

Good luck today rabbit.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 13/11/2013 07:30

Just popping in to say good luck rabbit. You can do it. Each and everyone of us is a champion.

Massive good luck with all the possible career moves. I had to make one last year, ended up starting the job I am in now diffed. But you all know how that ended. In any case, I managed to work enough time to have the rights to maternity leave if all goes well.

Glad you don't have to go back There, Yet cos. I found it tough. Very tough. Although the memory has softened now I've had a good scan to compensate in the same room. I still hate That Sonographer even if she could not help it at all.

Ginestas · 13/11/2013 08:30

Good luck rabbits! I'm cheering you and Boris on and will be thinking of you today. You've done amazing well to keep going and to get through all those nasty jabs.

cos hope the appointment goes ok lovely. I'm sure it will be very hard.

mrsd hope 2ww madness hasn't set in. As everyone else has said, no symptoms doesn't mean anything.

euro I found it odd how the clinic pushed clexane and pred, despite their 'mild' approach to druks. 1st cycle I didn't use clexane due to my bleeding issues. 2nd cycle I was made to use a high dose of it due to ohss. During the FET, I refused any druks other than baby aspirin and the bum bullets. I did have to argue for that though..

Waves and luffs to everyone else. We have a growth scan today and even at 35 weeks, I still have The Fear!