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Eggcellent Egg Buddies! Come and join us if you're IVFing in August, September or October!

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nobeer · 24/08/2013 11:43

Share your experiences, worries, recipes, holiday recommendations. Swearing welcome.

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Fabuluce · 29/08/2013 09:41

Bugger, you're absolutely right - it's super pricey in t'big smoke. If you ever get the chance to get out to Aylesbury then I would thoroughly recommend mine - she's 55quid for an initial appointment then 40quid afterwards - much more reasonable. It's shocking how expensive they are in London - I guess it's all to do with their rental.

Have a fabulous ivf free weekend :)

twinklestar2 · 29/08/2013 09:48

Fish I am going to see one in Hillingdon, West London this weekend if you can get there? If she's good I'll recommend her.

I have a feeling she is good as someone recommended her to me and I've spoken to her at length twice on the phone and she's been lovely. Not like the woman I went to see Jo wanted me to pay for 13 sessions up front (nearly 1k), was really pushy and said 'well your IVF failed' when I said I wanted to think about it.

Lifeasafish · 29/08/2013 09:48

That you all for your recc's (I wasnt just posting for info btw - I've plenty of time to think about it)

Nomaybe - what part of essex? Is it londony essex? Or deep essex?

Lifeasafish · 29/08/2013 09:51

'well your IVF failed' when I said I wanted to think about it.

Ive come to the conclusion that some parts of the fertility industry is like the wedding industry. The whole guilt based, sell high thing. Hillingdon is way over the other side for me (I'm east) but I may ask later on as its not an impossibility.

WannabeMaryPoppins · 29/08/2013 09:51

Morning all,
fab sounds like your Review was really interesting. God, those tests really are pricey aren't they? Have you decided to have them done?
pip hairstrokes to you sweetie
nobeer how are you doing today?
tame watched the Valleys for the first time yesterday. I didn't realise that People like that actually exist. Was horrified and fascinated all at once. As you say, pure filth. Love it!
brooker have fun in RL x
Hi fish and nice to meet you!
lw2 the whole ivf Thing is mental and what makes it worse is that there is this big cloak of secrecy around it. I don't think everyone Needs to know all the Details but I think it would help a lot of People if it wasn't all hush hush (well it is for us anyway). DH doesn't want People to know although actually I am very proud of us as a couple and Family.

Sounds like our other halves are suffering too Sad. It must be so hard for them. I know that when we started I felt that at least I was doing something and know that DH was frustrated as he had to basically stand on the sidelines watching. Hope that your men are Feeling more positive today.

twinklestar2 · 29/08/2013 09:51

Not sure what that random Jo is doing there. Perhaps she's related to Derek.

WannabeMaryPoppins · 29/08/2013 09:54

maybe her and Derek are spying on us?

PramQueen1971 · 29/08/2013 09:56

Fish, I think of you often. You had a rotten time and I do hope you find peace sometime soon. Love to you and your husband xx

Lifeasafish · 29/08/2013 10:01

Hello wannabe (my story is first cycle this year, bfp, mmc in case you wanted to know!)

We have been quite open about our IVF, I found that i stopped the 'you should have a baby questions' and bought a lot of support and understanding when needed. Also, it made us realise that many people struggle to get and stay pregnant.

My DH has been heartbroken, it was his baby too. He was amazing tbh from the start and has been there every step of the way. This process has made me appreciate him more - nothing is forever, but he has been at my side and in front protecting me when it has mattered and I'll always remember that.

We had some hard times last year that nearly broke our marriage (redundancy/ptsd and infertility all at the same time), so or marriage has kind of strengthened really but also been redefined in terms of equality. Thats my silver lining I guess.

Am I gushing? Blush

NoMaybeAboutIt · 29/08/2013 10:02

Fish I suppose it depends who you ask Grin. I'm in Chelmsford, so not far (in my opinion) from big smoke.

Twinks what a heartless bitch that Jo is. Totally agree with Fish, anything to do with fertility/babies adds extra £s

Lifeasafish · 29/08/2013 10:02

Hey pam - how are you! You must be blooming!

Sending a pm your way

WannabeMaryPoppins · 29/08/2013 10:05

Hi Fish, God, it sounds like you really have been through the mill. And no, you certainly aren't gushing. I really hope that sunnier days lie ahead for you and hubby.
Sometimes I wish we were more open about the IVF Thing but respect DH's wishes. He just doesn't want People to know. I have told a few People but only after our first cycle. I had my FET on Monday and no one apart from us, DM and DS know which means I am lying to everyone else (I have been signed off sick during the 2ww). I tell you, if I don't get an Oscar Nomination this year I am going to be seriously pissed off.

Lifeasafish · 29/08/2013 10:11

Oh, definitely you have to respect his wishes. I only advocate 'telling' as I know in the early days I sat in silence hearing shit that made be bawl afterwards. But, I'm on a one woman mission to recognise infertility as I do for mental illness. We as a nation shouldn't be scared to discuss this stuff.

I would do the same in you shoes, I do sometimes feel like a bad omen or object of pity.

eurochick · 29/08/2013 10:26

fish I feel exactly the same. I want to lift the taboo that still seems to exist with regards to infertility and miscarriage. I have spoken about both very openly with everyone apart from work (I don't want my career prospects damaged for a pregnancy that might never happen).

I can also recommend my acu lady. She works in Cov Gdn and from home in SE London. PM me if you want her details.

WannabeMaryPoppins · 29/08/2013 10:28

it has it's Advantages and disadvantages. On the one Hand it would stop all those rude and intruding questions. It was worse before DS was Born but it hasn't stopped since and just drives me round the bend. On the other Hand the thought that we would have to a bunch of People that it hasn't worked if we get a BFN just doesn't bear thinking about. It is just so hard.

WannabeMaryPoppins · 29/08/2013 10:29

Euro, how are you? I with you on the work Situation which is why they think I am off with a Virus.

Fabuluce · 29/08/2013 12:40

I'm on a mission to spread the word about infertility too - I think all the lying and subterfuge that people have to go through when they are already struggling with the challenges of infertility and life are just ridiculous and quite frankly bad for you. Thankfully friends and family have been very supportive for us and when I was working my colleagues were also very supportive. My job was ridiculously stressful though, no matter how we tried to change it, so in the end we worked out a way out without bad feelings either way so I am currently a stay-at-home-wannabe-mum. I am however thinking of doing some temping work to tide me over to the next tests/round if we decide we want to go for it, or doing some courses with an attempt to change my career...so many things to think about at the moment.

Llw2 · 29/08/2013 13:43

I take my hat off to you all who can be open about infertility and ivf. I am too selfish and the thought of people pitying us and talking about how sorry they are for us is almost as unbearable as the process. I can't speak to friends or family without getting the head to shoulder pity face which makes me want to punch people. In the interest of my sanity and clean criminal record I will have to get my advice and support from you lovely ladies xxx

nobeer · 29/08/2013 13:53

hi lovely people. I'm ok, it's definitely negative. had a few tears and cry on friend's shoulder. We've got a few more embies in the freezer, and i'll have to see the consultant to find out next steps. Going to have a few days off mumsnet and I'll see you all soon. Thanks for your kind words and support. I love you all!

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eurochick · 29/08/2013 13:55

Sorry to hear that nobeer. Good luck for next time.

Llw2 · 29/08/2013 14:15

Ahhh nobeer sending you lots of love and thinking of you x

NoMaybeAboutIt · 29/08/2013 15:50

I'm sorry lovely Nobeer. Be kind to yourself x

I too agree about speaking out about fertility issues. MrM and I were almost embarrassed at first. But we figured there was no need to be so now anyone who wants to know, knows. We found that once you do speak out, it's amazing how many people say they went through te same thing, or know people who have. If everyone was more open there would be so much more support!

thesaurusgirl · 29/08/2013 16:01

Sorry to butt in. I often lurk on this thread (am single but ageing and trying to decide whether DS would be the way forward).

If Londoners are looking for an acupuncturist, I can heartily recommend the one at the Life Centre in Notting Hill. Incredibly easy to get to (a cheaper one may involved a train or taxi on top of the tube fare) and almost painless (I was a needle phobic for a long time).

I didn't see him for infertility but because I had very painful periods and PCOS. Periods are now clockwork and totally painless. I was a huge sceptic and astonished. It cost about £100 for the initial consultation and £65 for the sessions - think I had about 10 in all. (I can see how this would not be considered reasonable anywhere else in the country. All part of the London tax).

I have friends who have seen Gerard Kite and Dr Zhai and this guy is better than either of them, apparently.

PramQueen1971 · 29/08/2013 16:34

We love you, Nobeer Thanks

WannabeMaryPoppins · 29/08/2013 16:36

I'm so sorry to hear that nobeer and sending you lots of love. Hope to see you on here again very soon . x