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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

Eggcellent Egg Buddies! Come and join us if you're IVFing in August, September or October!

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nobeer · 24/08/2013 11:43

Share your experiences, worries, recipes, holiday recommendations. Swearing welcome.

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BrookerC · 29/08/2013 16:54

nobeer so sorry lovely. Sending you lots of love xxxx

Stillhopingstillhere · 29/08/2013 18:12

Hi everyone,

We had our appointment with the embryologist today and it looks like I will be starting short protocol in October. I'm not very optimistic.

I requested short protocol because I have diabetes and also suffer migraines related to hormonal changes so they scanned me and said I had 8 egg follicles on each side so I was an ok candidate for short protocol. The embryologist gave us a 40% chance of success as the fact we have one child already ( naturally conceived first cycle) gives us better odds for some reason. I am still pretty certain it won't work but dh wants to go for it.

So, yeah, we will give it a shot. Ive said I will give it two goes but then that's it, no point throwing good money after bad and I'm so sure it won't work it does feel like it's all a bit pointless. :-(

Anyway, please can I join you? I can't start treatment next month due to previous commitments so will likely be starting the second week of October (cycles are always 28 days so at least I can plan ahead with some degree of confidence).

Good luck to everyone cycling at the moment, it really is rubbish.

NoMaybeAboutIt · 29/08/2013 18:33

Still sorry to hear you're feeling down, but a 40% chance if success really is very good with IVF, so rest assured you're in with a very good chance.

The ladies here are amazing x

Fabuluce · 29/08/2013 18:48

Nobeer I'm so sorry to hear your news lovely. Big cuddles. Xx

Still, 40% is pretty amazing odds in the world of ivfers! You have to be a positive thinker in order to keep on going and keep smiling and hopefully get that baybee so will keep my fingers crossed for you and that hanging out with the egg gang will help keep you chipper Smile

Stillhopingstillhere · 29/08/2013 19:06

Thanks. Xx

I feel a bit better that we can try short protocol. I think if they'd said I couldn't then I wouldn't have been happy to go ahead. The migraines and diabetes and sense of certainty that it won't work would all have been too much.

I feel very depressed about it all I have to admit.

I haven't read all the thread so will have a look to try and acquaint myself with you lovely egg buddies.

resipsa · 29/08/2013 23:14

Sorry nobeer. Take care until we see you again.

resipsa · 29/08/2013 23:17

Still I think they raise the odds for everyone who has had a DC already because they can rule out the risk of unknown problems relating to your ability to maintain a pregnancy and carry to term.

resipsa · 29/08/2013 23:18

Obvs you can do both. How old is yours?

resipsa · 29/08/2013 23:23

Llw2 we are like minded. I tell very few people about our fertility struggles. I just can't bear the thought of being pitied for my inability to acheive what comes naturally to most (and seemingly without effort to many). I feel sad that I cannot just be me and that I have to put up a front that I have all I want but that's me.

PramQueen1971 · 29/08/2013 23:26

Still, why would you be so depressed about something that gives you such a great chance of success? It's going to be an arduous journey with that pessimism. Are there any specific fears we can help to assuage?

PramQueen1971 · 29/08/2013 23:34

Resipsa, when I was going through IVF I told all and sundry and was fiercely determined to normalise the experience for everyone. However, now I am preggo I am finding myself agitated that my sister and mum have told several people that I have had IVF and used a donor to boot. I suddenly feel like that particular information - coming from the mouths of my family without permission - is precious to me. For some reason I only want those whom I love and respect to know I had to use a donor. Why is that? It's ridiculous and clearly demonstrates I'm a little ashamed about the fact.

resipsa · 29/08/2013 23:39

Or maybe that mothers and sisters should THINK then speak? Wish mine did Wink

Stillhopingstillhere · 30/08/2013 07:36

I just have a feeling we won't have any more babies.
I felt it as soon as we had ds.
We started investigations after only ttc for 6 months because I was so certain there was something wrong and alas I was right.

Unfortunately my gut feelings are often right. So 40% doesn't sound too bad but it's still more likely it won't work. I probably wouldn't even attempt it were it not for dh saying that my gut feeling is ridiculous. It is not ridiculous: it's usually right!

twinklestar2 · 30/08/2013 08:49

Random question but who was the neuroscientist on here? Was it Brooker?

WannabeMaryPoppins · 30/08/2013 09:13

Still nice to meet you! IVF is horrendous and I don't know anyone who would actually choose to take this path if they had any alternative. Through my experiences I have realised that staying positive really is very very important. And remember, when trying to conceive there is only about a 20% Chance of getting pregnant anyway. And here you are being quoted 40%! Believe me, there are a lot of People on this board (self included) who would screaming with joy with such a great prognosis. I don't want to Sound unsympathetic or mean, but if you enter this procecss firmly believing it isn't going to work, then it won't. I hope that you find the Support on this board helpful and good luck! Smile

NoMaybeAboutIt · 30/08/2013 09:14

It was me Twinks!

WannabeMaryPoppins · 30/08/2013 09:14

Morning pram I quite understand you being pissed off. I think it probably has less to do with you being ashamed than things being taken out of your control. Have you told them, that you are unhappy about them tellling People?

WannabeMaryPoppins · 30/08/2013 09:15

Hi nomaybe you're a dark horse! Very cool Smile

NoMaybeAboutIt · 30/08/2013 09:22

That's me Wannabe Wink

Fabuluce · 30/08/2013 09:26

I agree marypops - most of us, when faced with the reality of the percentages have had that sinking feeling of 'oh shit!!' but have then had to gird our loins and get back to positivity - if you go into something thinking you'll fail, well then you'll fail. If you go into something thinking the best then there is way more possibility of that thing happening. Obviously there are some things that we can't beat but you only have to look at the research done with cancer patients to see the success that has come about from positive thinking.

Pram I agree with Res - they've taken a decision away from you and that's not fair. You're preggo which is wonderful and super exciting and it's no surprise that they want to share it with people but the way it has happened is no-one else's story to tell but you and your husband's. you are the ones who can make the choice to tell no-one, chosen few or everybloominone and you should maybe think about having a quiet word with your fam if it's really bugging you. Nip it in the bud before it gets too big. Xx

twinklestar2 · 30/08/2013 09:46

Nomaybe - I will send you a PM when I'm at my computer x

WannabeMaryPoppins · 30/08/2013 09:47

Hi Twinks and Fab how are you both?
nomaybe you Sound like you kick arse. Brilliant.

AFM still chilling and staying positive.... do I have any other choice? No, so I am catching up on some reading, watching loads of crap tv and just making the most out of the 2ww. Bring on that BFP!

Stillhopingstillhere · 30/08/2013 09:49

To be honest I'm still not 100% we will go through with it. I just feel like it will be waste of time and money and cause my body huge stress.
I'm very anti. As I said, I'm only considering it because dh wants to try. I think we should just accept that we can't have anymore children and try and move on. We will be in a worse situation in twelve months time when we are 15k worse off and I've been unwell.
I appreciate 40% sounds quite promising. And obviously it's better odds than we have naturally but I think even if they'd have said 90% chance (which I know they don't) I would have felt the same. Basically it doesn't matter what anyone says I already know it won't work.

Dh is

Stillhopingstillhere · 30/08/2013 09:49

To be honest I'm still not 100% we will go through with it. I just feel like it will be waste of time and money and cause my body huge stress.
I'm very anti. As I said, I'm only considering it because dh wants to try. I think we should just accept that we can't have anymore children and try and move on. We will be in a worse situation in twelve months time when we are 15k worse off and I've been unwell.
I appreciate 40% sounds quite promising. And obviously it's better odds than we have naturally but I think even if they'd have said 90% chance (which I know they don't) I would have felt the same. Basically it doesn't matter what anyone says I already know it won't work.

Dh is putting the pressure on though so maybe I will end up giving it a try.

Stillhopingstillhere · 30/08/2013 09:51

Thank you for all messages though, you all seem a lovely lot so at least if we do go through with it I can come on here to chat.
I'm not telling anyone irl. I can't bear the fake sympathy.