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When's the best time to get pregnant? Use our interactive ovulation calculator to work out when you're most fertile and most likely to conceive.

Eggcellent Egg Buddies! Come and join us if you're IVFing in August, September or October!

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nobeer · 24/08/2013 11:43

Share your experiences, worries, recipes, holiday recommendations. Swearing welcome.

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Llw2 · 16/09/2013 12:27

Quick update ladies, scan went well although my cricket team of follicles is down to ten men (think one just got lazy). EC is Wednesday and am partly freaking out as apparently one of my ovaries will be "very difficult to get to" thank heavens for sedation. Have rewarded myself with some flapjacks, will keep you all posted. Hugs to all of you that need one I know I do xxx

nobeer · 16/09/2013 14:20

naughty ovary Llw! I'll be thinking of you weds, let us know how you get on. Enjoy your well deserved flapjack!!

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eurochick · 16/09/2013 14:30

nobeer I meant for me not you, but if the cap fits... ;)

Llw I was told before my first EC that I would probably feel like I had been kicked my a donkey afterwards because that ovary is difficult to reach (and as it was natural that was the one they had to get to as there was nothing on the other side). I didn't feel a think. Same with round three (same side). However, round 2 used the easier to reach ovary and I was doubled over in pain afterwards. So I guess you never can tell.

Missmidden · 16/09/2013 15:12

Hi everyone. Back from a wet and wild camping trip and there has been so much chat to catch up on! So from the bits I have managed to read (and sorry for the essay!):
Tame sorry to hear about your wobble over borrowing money- that must be really hard. I too struggle with the concept of spending this much money with no certainty of getting anything in return.
Llw and Shell good luck with EC, and Lemon with ET. It seems we haven't had much active cycling going on recently, and let's hope for some good news for a change!
Res belated happy birthday and sorry to hear it was such a tough one. Indeed I do hope the doom and gloom has lifted a bit for many of you.

Going back a bit, but I must chip in a bit on the review/PGD discussion. Twinks you are right that PGD and the embryoscope are linked- when Care did their trials they linked specific embryo development stages (monitored within the embryoscope) to the chance of it being chromasomally normal, which was checked by PGD. They now use a model which gives them probabilities of an embryo being normal based on the time it took to get to certain stages. We used the embryoscope and the one I had replaced (and the other 2 frosties) were in the top category- about 67% chance of being normal. (There are links to the 2 papers they wrote on this on the Care website under Care Maps if anyone wants to read more- I am clueless about posting links on my iPad!)

However, being genetically normal is only 1 thing that can affect the chance of implantation and avoiding miscarriage. The more I read the more convinced I am that immune issues are at least as important. I would not spend the money on PGD unless I was trying to avoid a specific problem e.g. Inherited genetic abnormalities. Sorry Nobeer if that sounds harsh, but I would certainly ask more about why your doctor wants to go down this route.

Life I think your questions sound great, and yours too Stars. I hope both of your reviews go well. And I would push hard on the miscarriage questions Life- just because current dogma says no investigations until 3 or more does not mean they always occur for no fathomable reason. Iwant thanks for the programme recommendation, I will try and find time to watch it before it disappears off iPlayer!

AFM I have just about stopped bleeding now but as it went on for over a week I think I can justifiably call it a miscarriage. I'm celebrating a small victory today as I got my lovely GP to agree to virtually all of the level 1 immune tests on the NHS! More research last week suggested I should be able to get all the tests done on request at the clinic, even if they think it premature. They are close to £3k all told but doing some via the GP will save nearly £1k! So booked in for bloods on Mon then review next Tues but if we go ahead with level 2 tests it will be about 6 wks for results- sigh. However I feel so much better for taking these steps. Now I just need to find some way of changing how my mind views time so that not doing a FET for at least 3 mths seems quite reasonable Hmm

WannabeMaryPoppins · 16/09/2013 17:11

Evening all. Sorry for not posting much, but was out partying at the weeekend (had completely forgotten what a full scale hangover felt like) and am now away with work.
Have been trying to keep up with all that has been going on - God, you have been busy you lot!
Going back to the DP thing I just wanted to say that I have been with DH for over 11 years and it only felt right to start ttc a couple of years ago. If I was with another man I might be pregnant now, but I don't want to be with someone else. The funny thing is, DH had just come out of a long term relationship before we met. They were living together and although they weren't officially trying for a baby she hadn't been taking any contraception for over a year. After they split up she was pregnant within a year by her new fella. So, although it sounds a bit weird, maybe this whole MFI is just meant to be. Because if DH didn't have any MFI he would probably still be with his ex and a Dad, but not to my little boy. Does that make sense? I know that it sometimes helps me to get my head round everything.

Good luck llw, shell and lemon
nobeer your review sounded really promising. Am really pleased for you.
I don't know who it was, but thanks for the lists of questions. Absolutely bloody brilliant!
tame please don't think that it is money wasted. I completely agree with Pram and the others. And if you don't go for it you are always going to ask yourself "what if"
res Happy Belated birthday. I hope you really did have all that wine and enjoyed every single glass.

to everyone else

AFM well AF rolled up this morning after a week of very light bleeding, which was doing my head in. But on a positive note, on my way out of the hotel this morning I saw a car with the number plate BFP. Now if that isn't a sign I don't know what is!

wishwash · 16/09/2013 22:24

Good luck shell very exciting! Please keep us updated

brook I guess we can say I'm actively trying now! I have my down reg scan on Wednesday so will start plumping my feathers after that ready for my FET

tame I know it's on a completely different scale but I can relate to what you're feeling on some level. When I had 2 weeks off for my first round DP's parents gave us my missing wages which was hundreds. At the time I didn't think about it but when I got that BFN I felt terrible like I had wasted their money. I avoided them for weeks and upset them in the end. I explained how I was feeling and they were shocked at how I felt. The told me it didn't matter and they will help financially until it does work.
Have you spoken to them about how you feel? Like you say it is a loan.
I hope your piggy is getting better xxx

wishwash · 16/09/2013 22:29

wannabe I am slightly jealous of your hangover in a warped way. I have always known how to party, this IVF malarchy is slowing me down! Haven't touched alchohol for 6 weeks. My body is thankful Smile

nobeer · 16/09/2013 23:03

Miss thank you for your words. I don't think you were being harsh, in fact we had the karyotype tests and they came back fine, so I am a little confused about why we'd need the PGD tests. It seems that some clinics in the UK seem quite good at picking up on the immunity thing but no idea what it's like here in Spain. When I asked if there was anything I could do to help or improve implantation (and I had immunity at the back of my mind as I'd read about it recently here), she said that some studies had shown that acupuncture helps, but they didn't know of any acupuncturists. She seemed a bit dismissive of it, but didn't actually say anything. Nothing was mentioned about immune tests. I think I'm going to order the Beer book. I've got a while, I've decided we'll do it in November, so I've got time to go back and discuss immune tests with her. Have you got any further advice you could give me re this? Ie is there a typical type of person who has immunity problems? I have a lot of allergies, asthma, eczema etc. Thanks again Miss xx

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nobeer · 16/09/2013 23:11

Oh and I mean immunology, not immunity. That's diplomatic, innit. Brain too tired!

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resipsa · 17/09/2013 16:09

Eek, Daily Mail alert. Please let Gwen Stefani actually be pregnant at 43 (rather than the DM merely filling column inches with the "rumour" it created).

Badhairday76 · 17/09/2013 17:02

I think she is!

Llw2 · 17/09/2013 20:21

Girls for a complete ivf distraction is anyone watching the bake off??? It's making me hungry and i haven't even eaten my roast pork dinner yet Grin

Llw2 · 17/09/2013 20:41

Distraction didn't last too long EC tomorrow at 8.45. Dreading the worst seeing as they said it may be a bit sore afterwards, they did also however say that I may have boob tenderness and the knockers have gone from C to DD and feel like they are made of hedgehogs! Ill keep you posted ladies x

Badhairday76 · 17/09/2013 21:04

Good luck Llw2! Let us know how it goes and hope you won't be too sore. Wishing your Hedgehogs a speedy recovery too. Xxx

Fabuluce · 17/09/2013 21:22

Llw EC is fine and a bit of a relief I found. It's the not knowing that makes it a worry but it really is ok so long as you're not like Euro who has a mad reaction to the drugs! I was under heavy sedation both times and quite frankly it was just like having a general but without having a mask and sore throat. Good luck Smile

nobeer · 17/09/2013 21:33

You'll soon get back to normal, but you'll want and deserve a bit of tlc tomorrow. Good luck Llw, and I hope you get a good haul of eggs!

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starsandmoonandback · 17/09/2013 21:36

Good luck tomorrow Llw Smile

BrookerC · 17/09/2013 21:42

Good luck for tomorrow llw. Hope you get a lovely crop of eggs! I was awake for both of mine & found the experience v. interesting. The drugs did the trick but I did enjoy an excuse to get on the sofa for an hour or two afterwards Wink. Looking forward to your update xx

wishwash · 17/09/2013 21:43

Good luck llw my EC seems long ago now but I remember it being a relief!
I don't watch the bake off, sorry. I'm geeking it up and playing grad theft auto with DP tonight. Love it :)

BrookerC · 17/09/2013 21:46

Aahhh, that poor lass on bake off with the collapsed biscuit tower! I was secretly hoping a few more might tumble too Grin

nobeer · 17/09/2013 21:50

brooker I can't get the iplayer working at the mo. I love GBBO! I'll try again tomorrow. I must be evil because I love it when something goes wrong.

wish I'm rubbish at that playstation/xbox malarkey. Poor hand eye coordination!

Hello to everyone else!

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wishwash · 17/09/2013 22:07

Ah shame nobeer! My dad has always been a gamer have grown up

wishwash · 17/09/2013 22:08

Ah shame nobeer! My dad has always been a gamer have grown up playing them with him. It's an aquired skill, especially for a lady Grin. My friends think I'm a bit of a boy but hey, DP loves me for it Smile

BrookerC · 17/09/2013 22:09

nobeer you gotta see this one! I LOVE the disasters wicked lady that I am

Llw2 · 17/09/2013 22:15

Brook I don't like that lady anyway with her smug props, it's the geography teacher man all the way for me!

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