Young woman, what are you doing to me? JUST SHAGGING for my bfp, theres no need to say it, we are poas, THREAD NUMBER 16!!!!!

[cookielove]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
   
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
   
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
   
4. Thou shalt share and with your fredmates where needed.
   

JSing lingo;

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce in other posters).

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

The link to Part 14 is here

The link to the latest grads thread is here


Happy shagging shaggers!

[lil1ady]

agreed re insensitivity of adverts too! its like they are trying to taunt us. isn't it worse when u get those ads in the middle of one born though. thank god for TiVo and the ability to ffwd the ads!

[Redshoes56]

fifi basically just to avoid if TTC or pregnant. I am sure a few diet sodas here or there are one thing, but some people at my office drink a six pack or more a day!

Laughing about the Always Ultra ad. It's bad enough we get "punished" every month for not being pregnant by getting a friggin' period.

I get creamy CM pretty much the entire TWOT. If it's unusual for you, though, dulcet go ahead and ponder it -- I won't tell!

[Redshoes56]

trying not to assign any meaning to two days of random cramps

[Bearfacedchic]

Yes. It is all very odd, but I've sounded out the wise and experienced ladies on the BESH Fred and they've told me that investigating the woman seems to be the done thing and they kind I'd ignore the male infertility factor. Seriously feel like I'm living in the 1950s or something. I feel like what the doc did was just about adequate, but it seems to be the luck of the draw as to whether you get someone decent or not. If I had the money I'd go private straight away. As it is, we'll just have to see what happens. I felt like the doc toe was trying to help but perhaps hasn't been trained properly. Who knows?

Pizza- that's hard for you. I'm sure everything will work out soon though. Hang in there.

I'd like to add that diet drinks are baaaad if you have asthma and they are also bad if you're trying to lose weight. I forget why exactly- something to do with metabolism and blood sugar I think. Dr Goofle will tell you, but my own Feeljng is that sweeteners are chemicals and not natural so they can't be good for you.

[Bearfacedchic]

Oh and thanks to everyone for their messages of support. You have, as ever, been a mountain of strength and kindness.

[Bearfacedchic]

Doc toe= doctor

[AuntieMaggie]

Aww Pizza that's really hard

Glad I'm not the only one who feels like that! We have a good life, and it's just got to the point where its steady after a few years of chaos with health and other issues, and now I want to upset it all again by having a baby

I am starting to realise I'm quite a maternal person (yeah looking after younger siblings and nieces/nephews didn't give me a clue) there was a woman and a couple of kids on the train yesterday and the girl who was about 8 was silently crying and I just wanted to go over and hug her.

Bear I had heard about sweeteners and weightloss but not asthma - that's interesting.

[DulcetMoans]

It's the aspartame in diet drinks that's particularly bad for you. The sweetener. Luckily I don't like the taste of the sweetener but I am such a fan of fat girls coke/Pepsi!

Thanks for the CM info viroids, I will just wait it out. Thought about donning cape but then sleep got the better of me. Can't say we haven't tried this month though! So much sex!

Oh, and to aunties point about thinking 'why are we doing this?!' - all the time! Especially if we have a great weekend, seeing friends, eating out etc. I think why would I want this to change. But then I look at DP and think how great he would be as a Dad and even how happy his parents would be and I just know its something that would enhance all our lives!

[EssieSaysRelax]

Morning lovely viroids!

Wooo it's Friday!

Dumb question alert. So ERTD is due any min, I've got cramps and had cramps yesterday, so does that mean she's sort of started or should CD1 be when the bleeding actually starts? Sorry do be utterly dense? Just interested really from working out my cycle perspective. I think I ovved two weeks ago yesterday.

Re sweetners, I have zero tolerance to them, even in squash, I have a headache within 30 mins. They are the work of the devil and I can taste them in anything.

Bear sorry for the useless Doc Toe , but glad you are in the system. It does seem totally absurd that only the woman is investigated as this stage, as its just potentially wasting time, but glad things are slowly progressing. Will you get to see someone different at the next app?

cookie! Don?t leave!

Is it just me or are there WAAAAY more baby product adverts on since Prince George was born?

Going to stock up on vits today. I promise!

Who was it who said they have wtf am I doing moments? I have those too. Depending on where I am in my cycle. Generally when ERTD has just arrived I manage to convince myself that its a good thing and putting it all off for another 33 days won?t be a bad thing!

Saw a friend last night, she is up the duff. She?d been trying for yonks, though it wasn?t going to happen, got a puppy, two days later found out she was preggers. Oh the lovely saw of le sod!

Have a good day all xxxx

[EssieSaysRelax]

*law of le sod. Dread to think what sort of mess le sod would create if handed a saw!

[Bearfacedchic]

at saw of sod, Essie! CD1 is the first day you bleed, not even spotting as I understand it.

[EssieSaysRelax]

Is it possible to have a longer than 14 days literal phase? I know some people have shorter ones.... (I'm learning lots today!)

[EssieSaysRelax]

And I can't ask Doc Toe Goofle cos he will just confuse and scare me.

[Bearfacedchic]

Yes, I'm pretty sure you can Essie. I can check my book when I get home for you, but I won't be home until tonight. Although others I'm sure will leap in and say before then. I think the 14 days lp was always based on the standard 28 day cycle and it's clearly been proven that this is not the average and just helped docs to standardise their treatments. Not all women are the same.

[AQuarkTooFar]

Hello all! Guess what it's Friday!

essie as bear said its the first day of bleeding and that doesn't include spotting. Literal phases can be longer than 14 days yes. Hope cramps are something else and not ERTD!

bear sorry the doc toe was a but . At least you have the ball rolling now an hopefully done you will get some answers.

What is everyone up to this weekend?

choc did Ertd show?

[Alohomora]

Oooo, since we're talking shop, can I ask something really dumb, too? How do you check your CM? Is it just whatever type/amount of dribble you have in your panties or do you stick a finger up your fanfan to check?

Right, no more diet coke for me - will switch to homemade lemonade with stevia instead. Have decided I need to start doing some form if exercise again, so will finally cram my arse in my swimming cozzie and attack the new leisure centre on Sunday. Lost 1 1/2 stone and just wrote the wedding everything went back on, it's time to tackle this properly!

[Bearfacedchic]

Aloho- my friend makes flavoured water e.g. With lemon, mint, strawberry, etc and it's lovely. Well done on the exercise. Don't give up. I check the old pants for snot and then see what's there. I also check when I wipe. I doing bother with investigating inside fanjo as I find it makes its way out anyway.

[Bearfacedchic]

Doing=don't

[EssieSaysRelax]

No I don't poke around too much either, I just go by whatever CM has erm, made its way outside?

I just treated myself to a bar of choccie because I feel crud and it didn't taste of anything.

I need to use this before they take it away:

[DulcetMoans]

No poking around here, just what I find in me knicks!!

Disappointing chocolate is the worst! Not worth the calories.

I want something nice for tea, any suggestions??

[fifi669]

I'm on a hen night tomorrow, the theme is gleek, think I bypassed that and went to special needs.... The elmo slippers could be the reason

Going to forget about the TWOT and be a normal person for one night.

When it comes to CM I delve right in there.... Seems I'm the only one

[EssieSaysRelax]

I'm having a higgedy pie for tea, just treated myself on the way home. DH is out and I need comforting cos I have no self control and I just had another bfn.

I have found some frolic acid pills today that I can manage to swallow, I'm useless at taking pills. Just took the first one. Going to be good from now on and remember them every day.

Enjoy the geek party!

[EssieSaysRelax]

Ooh just realised you said gleek. Is that a glam geek? Can that even exist? Or is it something I am too uncool to understand?

[pizzaqueen]

essie you could try taking them at same time everyday, like after you brush your teeth and keep them next to your toothbrush to remind you. I always take mine with breakfast.

although I'm not one to give advice on taking pills as I managed to concieve ds on the pill

[fifi669]

Gleek is glee/geek. The bride us a big fan and will prob get hideously drunk and cry over the death of Corey. They plan to start at 11am..... I'll be the older, wiser one on soft drinks until a decent hour