Young woman, what are you doing to me? JUST SHAGGING for my bfp, theres no need to say it, we are poas, THREAD NUMBER 16!!!!!

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Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share and with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo;

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce in other posters).

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

The link to Part 14 is here

The link to the latest grads thread is here

Happy shagging shaggers!

Good luck today bear! Hope all goes well.

Hello all, I am not keen on choc pretzels but choc popcorn mmmmmm now that I love!

Cd13 here and been eod since cd10 it's going well!

Oo I take pregnacare pizza and I haven't had yellow wee????

Good luck, bear, I hope things go alright.

I have no motivation, I'm off to work in half an hour until ten, when I just want to curl up under a duvet and snooze. But then I feel a bit funny, anyway, I think AF might arrive early - last month's was exceptionally late due to travel/stress/illness so it wouldn't surprise me.

I take those Seven Seas Trying for a Baby pills - I was also taking Wellwoman, do you think I can take both together? I always take them at night cause they make me feel a bit queasy.

a quick google says its vitamin b2 and doesn't look like anything to worry about.

I don't take any vits, did take frolic acid for a while but have consistently forgot for the last goodness knows how long! A friend who went through 6 rounds of IVF and still couldn't conceive gave me a right telling off the other day for not taking vits, so because I know how much she wants this for me, I plan to get my arse in gear and do it from my next ERTD. I remember we shared a link on here a couple of freds back about how you are statistically more likely to get upduffed if you take the vits? Can't remember where that was?

On the subject of ERTD, I think she is on her way up the driveway, so to speak. Got EWCM, which I had last cycle the day before she arrived which got me all excited so I used contraband as I thought it meant I was ovving.

Mil and fil are now not coming so I ironed bed linen for nothing. May actually go and sleep in the spare room myself and enjoy the luxury!

ERTD is due 4th for me. Hoping it doesn't come at all though obviously!

Another dtd fail last night. DP was so worked up about the fail the day previous he couldn't keep his cape on . Still hoping that enough man juice was deposited early in my FW to make it happen this month, even if dtd didn't happen when icing.

bear hope it's going well and they can get the ball rolling for your BFP!

Hello! I'm back.

Well, as predicted we went through our histories (although we'd both thought doc could have been more thorough with this e.g. he didng dven ask how often we have sex!) Then DH had his varicocele looked at and then I had internal swabs done for chlamydia and other unknown stuff they check, apparently. Then doc disappeared for ages to talk to consultant and came back saying we needed to redo blood and SA tests and I have to go for an HSG. At first doc wanted to refer us for IVF there and then, but even I could have told him that procedure is to do investigations first. Tbh he didn't seem that experienced at it although he did his best. Got another update appointment following the tests for November, which is only 3 months away.

Poor DH said he felt like a spare part even though he was the reason we were referred. We had to go to Gynaecology and a Women's Clinic. They took all my vitals like blood pressure but not his, although they did take his history. The whole thing is just stupid how the assumption is always that the problem is with the woman. We should be treated as a couple together. But I've said that before. Even when we left there didn't seem to be any mention if treatment for his varicocele. All very odd.

Oh yes and in the waiting room they had on BBC's Doctors with a man going on a rant at a pregnant woman and finishing by saying she could end up with a dead baby. I was horrified that this was on in the waiting room of a Women's Clinic!

Well, that's everything for now I think, so none the wiser but shuffling forwards in the system it would seem.

Hope you're all well.

sorry to here the Dr was a bit useless bear but as you say Ur in the system now.

pizza I take bits and always gave the bright wee when I take them it is excess b vits being flushed out and is absolutely nothing to worry about.

it was me who posted the link re bits before. I will find it again and repost when I get chance.

how is it only Thursday? such a long week!

Trying to read this thread on my phone doesn't work very well so I'm not ignoring your posts just can't read them!

Sorry about your appointment bear :(

Does anyone else get moments of wtaf am I doing trying to have a baby?

haha yes. everytime I feel happy I think wtaf do I want to change everything!!
then I think about how amazing it would be, and go all drooly over names....

Hello all

Bear sorry to hear your doc as a bit pants, but it's good to know your in the system! !

Oh my lovely very pregnant friend was told by her midwife that people ttc or pregnant should avoid sweeteners! Just thought I'd share

I'm shattered

Do I have to leave this thread

no cookie don't leave!

In fact when I get my bfp I may just not tell you all so I can stay in the thread for ever

lil thats what I was planning to do, hmmmm total fail on that one

ooooh ertd due tomorrow......................................

auntie yes I feel like that quite often. My DS is 2.5 and sleeps well but he's a Ball of energy in the daytime and wakes at 6am everyday, no lie ins ever in this house. Me and DP are beyond knackered some days, as we both work too and I have a long commute. Sometimes I think I must be absolutely crazy to be considering going back to the night feeds, exhaustion and being pooed or puked on all day long. But I only feel like that for a fleeting moment, and desperately want to give my DS a sibling. He'll make a great big bro. I feel so lucky to have him.

Today I was sorting out some clothes he's outgrown and he said 'these for my baby bwruwa sista (brother or sister) mummy?' Flaming broke my heart! I had a miscarriage last month and he still doesn't completely understand I don't have a baby in my tummy anymore, quite difficult to explain to a two year old.

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Hopefully you'll get another BFP with a sticky bean soon. Your DC is luckily too young to know when the 9 months are up.

Fingers crossed for you x

dont be for me. I will (hopefulky) get another bfp that sticks!!

and so will everyone else on this fred.

We shall prevail!

Good tip about the sweeteners, cookie. I actually quit diet soda a few months ago because I figured it was no good for TTC -- and also because I suspected it was causing my wicked migraines. Sure enough, I have had almost NO headaches since quitting. It is amazing. And I don't really crave a diet Pepsi that often now (and when I do have one, I feel crap after). I've switched to unsweetened iced tea, mostly. And wine and beer

bear -- ugh, ugh, ugh. At least you've made some progress, but he sounds like a jackass. We'll have to compare notes after I go in a few weeks.

I love your positivity, pizza. I also love pizza. Yum. Hungry.

And yeah, auntie, I do have the "are you effing crazy?" talk with myself every so often. We have a great, fun life -- and now we're just putting ourselves through this great struggle to add another human being to the mix. I have the conversation a lot less often than when I was younger, though. I see incredible value in having a larger family support system. Losing his brother last year really tipped the scales for me; decided life is short, and we should just go for it. And here we are, capes on, still "just going for it" ha ha....

essie take your vits!

What was this top about sweeteners? I don't drink much apart from diet coke..... And beer

Just caught a bit of 'couples retreat' on telly, Jason Bateman moaning about TTC and only having sex when she's ovulating. Lol. They should try JSing! or EOD if they really want to punish themselves then an advert for Always Ultra, as if to rub it in 'hey, not pregnant? You'll need these!'

Sounds like an odd trip to the docs then bear. Hopefully gets the right result though, even if you have to endure idiot doctors.

So, 4/5 days out from ERTD now and had CM today. Any ideas??

cm is not an indicator either way really dulcet I also got some today but I get different types at different times throughout the twot. I used to record it all in my app but this month is first month I haven't bothered. i think I really have given up