Young woman, what are you doing to me? JUST SHAGGING for my bfp, theres no need to say it, we are poas, THREAD NUMBER 16!!!!!

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Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share and with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo;

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce in other posters).

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly OPKs or temp charting. They are Contraband.

The link to Part 14 is here

The link to the latest grads thread is here

Happy shagging shaggers!

lol - at least the Synchro POAS made me smile.

I just know that if I get an AF I will be devastated. I could cry just thinking about it

Everyone has children except me and I hate it. My sister has got 2 gorgeous children, one of my best friends has 2 children (she gave birth to her 2nd two weeks ago) and my other best friend had her 20 week scan yesterday. She was excitedly telling me that she is having a little girl and although I'm happy for her, I just felt so jealous. And I know that's an awful thing to say.

I have got various medical conditions and it has taken about 14 months to hit a stage where both my Consultants (for 2 different health problems) have told me they are happy for me to try and have a baby.

I have been waiting for that 'go ahead' for so, so, long and now that the time is here I am absolutely petrified that is isn't going to happen

writer I found this time and last I spent the two weeks post AF happy as larry, the next couple a miserable shit to be blunt.

Do you mean you were happy as Larry because you were DTD and then felt miserable as shit when you got a BFN?

Writer Don't despair, I was the same as Zing with my DD; didn't get my BFP til 7 weeks pg even though I'd tested at least twice a week before that. Different women (and different pregnancies) produce varying hormone levels. Stressing about TTC will make it more difficult, I know it's easy to say! This month was one where DP and I had actually discussed not trying so hard and maybe even stopping but then we got our positive. It will happen when it is right. Fx for you.
Fx for Ness having an IB and not AF too.

I guess I just want it be right for us now

I don't have any signs at all that I'm pregnant so in my heart I know I'm not. Lots of people know we are TTC too so that is just more added pressure.

I know I have absolutely no right to feel sorry for myself when compared to the awful things other MN's are going through - but I can't help it. x

writer

you have every right to feel sad or worried!

sad, disappointed, angry, scared - I hereby give you permission to feel however you want to feel!
you are allowed to have your emotion!

apart from guilt. that is forbidden!
but only because guilt is a waste of time and it sucks out positive energy!

every BFN is like a slap in the face.
it can be painful and difficult to take.
it's just so damn hard to keep hoping ( praying) and then nothing.

so cry if you feel sad and punch your pillow if you feel angry.
(hugs)

Thanks Zing,

Me and my hubby are only 30, but there is something about that age that just makes me think, "We left it too late". That is silly of me though because I know that in terms of my health, I wasn't in a good enough place for me to be able to conceive.

Plus we would ideally like more than one.....and so I can't work out how we are going to fit it all in if it takes years to even conceive one.

And although my health is currently stable, both of my conditions can become unbalanced again with pregnancy so I have that worry at the back of my mind too .

I thought baby making would be fun but already I'm feeling disheartened by it all.

Thanks for listening - I know I sound a bit pitiful

Writer its completely normal to feel how you are, especially when you have had to put off TTC - we had to delay by about 12 months from when I wanted to start (financial reasons rather than medical) and it was so heartbreaking when it didn't happen quickly. Trying now to tell myself that its a good thing - this baby is the right one for my family, and if I'd fallen pregnant earlier then there's no way this child would ever have been born. Hopefully if this isn't your month, then it won't be long until it is

ah writer it is so hard isn't it, such a roller coaster of feeling up and down.

why don't you do something tk take your mind off it for a bit? what do you like to do? meet childless friends for dinner or buy yourself a magazine/book a nice snelly candle and a mini box of chocs or . I've been doing a lot of thay recently to help me through a difficult time but the indulgence genuinely did help to make me feel better. Although I've ate too much and piled on the pounds I now need to loose!

I've been having some weird pink spotting on and off last few days, once after dtd and other times when I go to the loo (sorry if tmi). I have no idea what it is and trying my hardest not to worry. I think its too soon after mc for a period (got my bfn on Friday) and mine are usually really heavy. could it be something sinister, should I get checked out?

first week back at work after mc too looking at my 7month pg boss all day

I'm with you all the way Writer, the few days before potential AF I just find soul destroying I've been such a misery at work today, everyone's been asking if I'm ok, but obv I can't tell them why I'm sad!
It's days like this when you feel like 'if I'm not pregnant today, I'm never going to get pregnant!' Which is absolute nonsense of course, but it's amazing what the stress of TTC does to your brain. And I want a glass of wine and can't just in case!!!!
goes to switch the hose on and fill up the pity pool

just found out my sil is 28 weeks pg. she didn't want to tell us bevause of my miscarriage but she must have known before I was even pregnanyt as my loss was at 9 weeks.

I just feel its so unfair it can't be us I saw her at the weekend and thought she was upduffed.

I think we need a big Pity Pool Party to cheers us up

Yes! Definitely! I'll bring Doritos.

Eek, I just saw my pregnancy test from this morning (emptying the bin) and there is faint, but definite line in the Test Window!!

After reading the instructions 10 minutes ago I realised I hadn't left the test long enough this morning to establish a true result.

But now I don't know if it a genuine positive or if it is some kind of malfunction because of how long ago I took the test

do another one writer!!!

I don't have anymore, as Sods Law would have it!!

I will get one on the way to work tomorrow and report back in the evening

Thanks Downstairs, I'm not confident it is a genuine positive but who knows, stranger things have happened x x

downstairs I am so ashamed to say I wasnt even happy for her when I heard (my dp told me over the phone; even though I already suspected) I just burst into tears what a cow! it has affected me so much worse than I thought it would.

I just feel so rubbish just now, I think im moving on then things like thjs remind me I shluld be about 14 weeks now.

writer I could have written some of your posts except I'm 35 and TTC for the first time. Its natural to feel the way you do especially with the added pressure of other health issues but focus on one step at a time - you have nothing to feel guilty about. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

I have a couple of other issues as well as the PCOS that need to be monitored throughout my pregnancy and because I've come off some medication so I can get pregnant it means I may suffer some of the horrible stuff that comes with my conditions too. At the moment I've got loads going on so I haven't had time to really think about what we're doing but I'm sure I'll be obsessing as soon as life quietens down.

We're off to Paris at the weekend for DPs big birthday and he wants me to get pregnant on his birthday so he can embarrass our child when its older with stories about how it was conceived

OMG Writer!! All fx and tx for you!! At least you're still in the game anyway as ERTD hasn't got you yet, whereas it's definitely coming rolling in for me... I'm out ladies!

pizza

I had a MC in 2008. she'd be just 4 years old.
you'll always keep a tab on the ones that didn't make it and you'll always wonder.

it's natural. it's heartbreaking.

if you can't bear to be around her that's fine. I'm not sure she'll understand though...does she know you lost a baby?

(hugs)

Hey guys. I'm sorry you're all feeling crap. If it's any consolation, I think I have written everything you have in the last 24 hours at some point on this fred. I'm not trying to take your feelings away from you by saying that - just that I have been there and it's not pleasant.

Zing and everyone who cheered me up last week told me the same thing - you can feel upset and angry and stressed about the whole thing if you like. There's nothing wrong with that. I guess just try not to put too much pressure on yourselves and don't let it consume you. There will be many more chances for all of you and it's annoying, but statistically 80% of us will be upduffed within one year of trying and 95% within two years I believe I fall into the elusive 5% who are not upduffed after 2 years of trying So, it will happen. Just try and focus on other things and get on with living your life for a bit. The first few months are the worst I think, but then I just relaxed because otherwise I was going to drive myself crazy.

Writer - I'm 34, so you've got plenty of time in comparison to me. Sorry to hear about your health problems, but I'm sure it will happen for you too. Let us know about your POAS action!!!

Got to go - gym calling! and I ate some chocolate today, so need to work it off

Sorry to hear about how you are Pizza. I haven't experienced this, but I'm sure what you're feeling is natural. Hugs.

writer it isn't dtd that makes me happy, we dtd pretty solidly all month. It's the excitement that this could be the month we make our baby. Once icing is out the way and I go into the dreaded 2ww, I'm still ok, a bit tense, but ok. As soon as AF symptoms appear, cramps etc, I descend into FML.

Are apps contraband? Mine wants me to record dtd, mood, bleeding, pain and erm my lady liquid. Anyone else inspecting their outgoings everyday?