FAO all BESH - SNF for those who frequently CBATM and occasionally SADAW after G&T. LOLs and BD will not be tolerated. IDs will WTP.

[CaptainMoll]

AYBESAAH? DYHIDWAP? DBDMYV? CYLTEPPC? DYLG? TTITFFY!

Anyone who can correctly translate the above messages wins a baybee.

(Or at the very least, the respect of the BESH).

[evilgiraffe]

Yeah, I got up, put on cycling clothes, had a cup of tea, and then got changed into real clothes. BBQ at friend's later, just as soon as HOTB gets home.

CD37 is totally worth it. I'm enjoying the pre-op probably-shouldn't-be-diffed vibe - I'm not normally too affected by TTC-SWI-stress, but it's been nice to genuinely not care for a few weeks.

[Northey]

A cup of tea can really take it out of you, draf. Sportswear was only sensible.

[HesterShaw]

BESH, have you seen this heinous thread?


We should have a new question on the BESHtionnaire: do you like cats? If the answer is no, then I'm afraid we are not the group for you

[evilgiraffe]

It turned out that a ten-minute cuppa took about two hours, so I lost my chance for a pre-BBQ ride.

The anti-cat thread is weird. They always talk about shit, as if cat owners don't understand. My neighbours' cats AND my own cats shit in mine...

Ours had their jabs on Friday, prior to their prison stay while we're in Wales - and ancientcat is apparently now in full-on heart failure. Vet doesn't expect her to last beyond the end of the summer, if she gets that far, poor old thing :(

[evilgiraffe]

Shit in my garden, I mean.

[HesterShaw]

My cat doesn't shit at all, you know.

Sorry to hear about ancientcat, draf :(

[TWinklyLittleStar]

Aw poor ancientcat. Sorry to hear that.

I'm not massively into cats because I used to be very allergic and got sick around them, and because my aunt's cat was an evil bitey scratchy creature. However I loved my ex's cat that I lived with - I would lie on the sofa watching dvds and he would like on my tummy. Particularly handy for soothing period pains.

I've been lying in bed trying to get more sleep and failing for the last hour (home from work at 7am). Given up now. I have a long loooong night ahead, but holidays start tomorrow, yay!

[FriendofDorothy]

I love cats. I cried bucket loads when Delilah died.

We are going to look at kittens tomorrow which is hugely exciting!

[EuroShaggleton]

Frank CD94 - farking 'ell, that's a long'un. But at least you have cheesecake.

moll well done on the creative new fred arrangements.

alwyn ffs.

rasp that sounds lovely.

bugs sorry to hear you are feeling crap. I hope the magic blanket does its job.

I've been having a luffly weekend of seeing friends, sorting the garden, drinking wine, shooting stuff and wandering around Greenwich Park in the sunshine. I don't wanna go back to work in the morning.

[EuroShaggleton]

Aw, poor poorly ancientcat.

Yay for kittens dor!

[JethroTull]

Nice in here innit?

Good thread Moll

[lovesLemonDrizzleCake]

Sorry about the ancient cat but jealous as well, cos I am too allergic to have my own :( and I really want one!

OMG 94days, you are a patient person, I would have gone MAD, frank. Although I suppose you had NY as a distraction.

Well done for the various types of exercise, I am doing the cup of tea type, as we went to the pub. So I cant possibly run!

[alwyn]

I have just chased off two cats out of my garden. Hate the bastard things. Much prefer dogs - would like one to scare the shit out of any cats who deign to shit in my garden.

[RaspberrySnowCone]

Urggghhh we have had the BIG conversation this afternoon instigated by MATV. The question being 'what happens if this doesn't work'. 'twas while we were filling out all the papers that he asked the question. He really doesn't want to have a second round if the first fails and wants to adopt instead. I think I'll kick myself if we don't give it another go privately if the first fails. We are thinking far to far ahead I think. But was very serious for ten minutes or so and i cried. then he got bored and wandered off for yet MORE ice cream. Fat git.

[HesterShaw]

Hmmmm, a tricky one Rasp. First question is, and don't take this the wrong way, do you have the money?

[Floppityflop]

Now I know what BESH stands for, this seems to be place for me... What oes menkul mean or is it rude?

[RaspberrySnowCone]

We do have the money, we could afford a couple of rounds, I think, if we made some changes to our life styles. He just really doesn't want to pay for it because he thinks its so expensive, which it is but still, I think I'll always wonder 'what if' if we don't?

[evilgiraffe]

"To menkul" is to be in that state of obsessive worry/hope that occurs every time you manage to (almost) convince yourself that pregnancy is a possibility. It is, indeed, mental, as this is the home of the barren and pregnancy is highly unlikely. Many of the BESH have been TTC for so long that we hardly menkul at all any more, and have instead passed into a state of jaded weariness.

What's your story, Flop? Go thee forth and seek out the BESHtionnaire (scan back through previous BESH threads and you'll find one) - post here your answers and we shall judge whether or not you meet the criteria (don't panic, no-one has been turned down yet).

[HesterShaw]

I know the feeling. You've got to ask yourself how you would feel if it failed after paying for it. Rightly or wrongly I would find that bit extraordinarily difficult, particularly if we'd into debt for it.


Menkul just means symptom spotting. Comes from the word mental

[HesterShaw]

apart from the woman who had two kids already

[evilgiraffe]

Awkward times, Rasp. I know what you mean about trying as much as you can - would it help to talk to him about the stats? I mean, one round of IVF is essentially pretty similar to a non-barren TTCing for a couple of months - it doesn't give you much time to work with, really. If he thinks of it like that it might help him to see your point of view? Also, adoption will take longer if they think either of you is not ready to let go the idea of having a birth child - so if a second round of IVF would help you to feel that you'd done all you could, then you will probably find the adoption process that bit quicker.

Disclaimer: I'm making assumptions based on reading the Adoption board on MN, and various council/adoption agency websites. No personal experience at all to draw on.

[FrankellyMyDearIDontGiveADamn]

Potential new blood?


Rasp does he fully understand the whole process? Might he be worried about the emotional toll, as well as financial? He might be using money as an excuse IYSWIM.

In other news, I is famous! Just glimpsed myself on BBC1 during the programme about the Queen and her horses. I was standing in the paddock at Newbury Racecourse

That'll be my 5 seconds of fame used up!

Oh yes, base line scan and bloods are booked for Thursday. Commencing Cycle 3, Take 2!

[HesterShaw]

I WATCHED THAT!!! I kind of love the Queen

[RaspberrySnowCone]

Good points, I think we need a few more chats really. He's getting worried about me being so stressed and just wants it done with maybe. I don't know, I think we should just get through this first bit. £4k a go for something that may not even work is not a great thought but I'm not ready to be thinking about never being a mum just yet. :(