TRC 10+ months. Part 15...

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New thread for the lovely 10+ers. 14 was awesome so another like that please!

Gar nelly I consider my thunder stolen ;) Just up for the early hospital obvs round as baby is being monitored for a small ailment and thought I'd check in with an update... I do indeed have a not-so-little baby. Our daughter Elodie was born at 7am yesterday morning at a whopping 9lbs10 . I did the 3 day labour (2 and a bit latent, 8 hours active) without any drucks / pain relief and only incurring 4 stitches in a graze . Hypnobirthing really paid off!! I have to say labour and giving birth is one of the most surreal (and humiliating - what happened in that room stays in that room!!) experiences of my life. And now there is a real life mini princess on the scene who 's currently happily snoozing away in her crib.

I hope my news doesn't make anyone sad. I believe it will happen for everyone on here. I really do.

Big, poofy and slightly stingy tail feather shakes and luffs to all xxx

Oh huge congrats princess that is wonderful news

congrats princess :)

amazing news princess congratulations! Did you know you were having a girl or was it a surprise? I'd love to hear all the details of the birth and your first days if you want to share. I find this stuff fascinating. Enjoy your precious bundle, will you be home soon? Did you have a home birth? I'm so impressed with no drugs and such a good weight too. Well done!

euro when will ec happen?

joy are you still on holiday?

rabbit I think you mentioned somewhere up thread about feeling anxious. I've suffered with anxiety on and off for as long as I can remember. Mine centres around my health so ttc business feeds into it. I'm fortunate in that I've always been able to manage it myself and I recognise it as anxiety and know when it's rearing it's head. I'd love to be a relaxed, laid back person but it's not in my make up.

princess congrats! That sounds like an amazing birth! And that wasn't a small baby. You've chosen my favourite girls' name too. :)

critter lovely to hear from you. I'm glad you had a lovely time with your sister. How are you feeling

The holiday is to Tuscany, so probably a mix of sightseeing and lazing.

sar sorry you are poorly, lovely. Is it the morning sickness?

Yes, where is joy?

buzz I'm thinking of you. x

mrsd I forgot to answer you. EC will most likely be around Saturday, apparently.

Buzzy - how are you? Any news? I hope all is okay and the bleeding was nothing untoward.

Euro - Yay for the egg laying - very impressive esp with the low drugs. Good luck for Sat. How are you feeling about this cycle?

MrsD - Yes - would be great to have an IVF buddy. I too was upset about not being able to do it till autumn but a summer off is actually not a bad thing at all.

Gin - Yeah men do like to come over all martyr don't they?

Critter - Hope you are all relaxed from your break. How far along are you now?

Princess - congrats on the new baybe... no drugs and all natural. Well done you! I have heard lots about hypnobirthing. Sounds good. It's always so nice to see good news on this fred. Doesn't make me sad at all. Gives me hope!

Joy - I hope you had a good hols and we haven't lost you. You have always been a great source of comfort and sensible advice. I hope the hols has rejuvenated you. I know you were feeling a bit down before you went on hols.

Sar - How far along are you now? Doll - And you?

Lemons - Well done on the root canal. I had one many moons ago and remember it to be really painful. Hope that's not the case for you.

It's all been v dramatic here at Sea household. I spent 5 hrs at A&E after a big rash appeared with severe chest pains. Because I am taking these scary strong TB antibiotics I was advised to go there to get checked out. After a battery of tests (I think they thought I was having a heart attack as I was sweating from chest pains and couldn't breathe), I was told there was nothing wrong. And it's likely that the meds had given me very bad heartburn [very embarrassed and sheepish]. Anyway... I have been popping antacids like sweets since and now feeling okay but v v embarrassed indeed.

Did anyone see Caprice's interview (it's on the Daily Fail). I have never been a big fan but it's nice to read good news story like that and I admire her for coming out and saying she had 3 failed IVFs. So many celebs just pretend they got preggers naturally at the age 40+... Good on her!

Waves to everyone I have missed. x

Princess - wow, congratulations on your daughter.......your daughter!!! Does that feel weird. Well done on the birth,. Scurries off to learn about hypnobirthing.

Euro- I think you have made the right decision about ec. Sometimes I think life dictates decisions if you know what I mean and the best things usually come from this. I very much understand your fears over discarded viable embryos. I was deeply affected by this issue. My clinic more or less refused me a mild ivf cycle and ieven went as far as to get slightly dodgy normally discarded embryos made placed in the freeze. Getting 6 blasts from 9 fertilised eggs was both wonderful and petrifying. My way of dealing with it was deciding to commit to collecting them all regardless. Yes I am that crazy. In the end it was all academic as none of them resulted in a pregnancy. Due to a mixture of unknown, bad luck and dodgy tube reasons. So I guess what I am trying to say is life does sort itself and even if 4 eggs do fertilise, you could give them all a chance if you wanted as it is statistically unlikley they will all make it to blasts/ babies, not all at once though, hope that helps.

Sea-poor you, I cant believe the meds make you feel that awful. I think you were right to go to hospital. I did see the caprice thing and agree its good she told her story. I am now almost 14 weeks.

I have been feeling rotten due to a mixture of tonsilitis, nausea and heart burn. Lovely. I dont have any sort if bump but am feeling very weighty and wobbly due to weeks of being sedentary and eating too much salty food. But thats ok, its the way it goes.

Waves to all the lovely ladies. Xxx

evening all. Lovely to get a 10plus baby pop out - well done princess! You should feel bloody proud to have hypnobirthed out your baby and I hope that you are enjoying every second. Hope the stinging passes soon. I wish we had a space to keep in touch that wasn't about our fertility. Any ideas people?

Sea that sounds wretched and I hope you are feeling a bit better today? Don't be embarrassed - you have so much going on and it could have been something that needed help.

Mrsden I have always been a worrier and stressy person and ttc has magnified this 1000x. This in turn amplifies all of the things that my anxieties manifest themselves in like upset tummies and butterflies and so on. I really do want to do something about it but it isn't easy when that is the way you are predisposed. It pisses me off that most fertility gurus talk about de-stressing on one hand and then give brutally stringent advice on lifestyle with the other. This then gives you 99 things to beat yourself up about. So I am trying not to be so hard on myself about it all. it isn't any of our faults that we find ourselves here.

Pout do have a go at the meditations. Try Stin Hansen, I like her.

Madness Not Period Bleeding is crap. You will always have my support with that!

Euro this is all sounding very promising! Super ovaries.

Buzzy, sending you lots of support, update us when you can.

Sar, boo to poorly days. Your blooming must be nearly here!

Art - did I say hello? I think I did!

Um, losing track now. I do miss Joycep. I wonder if she is taking a thread break.

Well I had my first appointment at my hopefully new clinic with he who shall be named Dr Nice. This was a private consultation to discuss transferring my nhs treatment (which my pct does) and it turns out they are now funding two rounds. I am so relieved by this and also the kind and reassuring appointment we had. He said my fsh was only just borderline and unlikely to be the sole factor for our lack of pregnancy. On their books we are still unexplained which has surprised me, but this is AMH pending. He has pulled me away from talk of donor egg until I have given mine a go. I have come away feeling like someone is finally listening to us and can help. I think I am going to forego IUI. I just want to do the thing that helps the most and he has talked through all my fears about transfer etc.

BUT I still wish that I did not need ivf. Arriving at the clinic I just kept thinking how has it come to this?

sarlat I think I would be the same. But I've never wanted a large family. So a big number of embryos would not be a good thing in my world.

That sounds like a very positive appointment, rabbit. I think a lot of IVFers feel the same way. No one wants to have their children conceived in a lab. It's possibly easier to come to terms with if you are told it is the only way due to e.g. severe male factor. But I doubt it is easy for anyone.

Congrats again princess. I'm so thrilled for you and she looks just gorgeous in the pics. Go brown diet! obviously makes gorgeous, huge babies. Lots of love to all xx

Tight paw hold for rabbits. I'm really pleased to hear you have finally found a dr nice after all the shit you've had to put up with. Amazing about the 2 funded cycles too! During my ivf, I couldn't believe I was actually doing it. It felt surreal and like something that only happens on TV. And I knew without it we had no chance of a baby, so knew we had to do it. If it's any comfort, I find now that I'm pregnant I don't care how I got here, just that I am and I imagine that is the same once the baby arrives. I have everything crossed for you. Do you know when you may start?

euro it's great that this cycle is working out so well for you - go egglets! It sounds like the ideal protocol if you don't want any spares. We never made enough for spares, with our crap fertilisation rate. Are you feeling ok?

Sorry to hear you are poorly sar. Have you got some antibiotics? I'm on them now for my tooth. Take it easy and be kind to yourself.

buzz hope you are doing ok.

mrsd I tend to veer towards hypochondria and am a worrier, so when they told me I was at high risk of ohss, became convinced I was gonna die! All the mental making extra hormones really don't help with the anxiety. You are a strong lady - look at how you got through your last cycle.

Luffs to everyone else.

I do now have a small rather large bump. I keep seeing it and not believing it. Not only was ivf totally surreal, I now find the bump surreal! I think it's after years of telling myself it will never happen. The general anxiety about it working out ok is a bit better, but def still there. I guess it's normal after trying for so long.

princess congratulations on your huge baby! Lovely news.

gin I can't believe that you have a bump already. It really must seem surreal. Glad that you have some antibiotics for the tooth. How is it now?

sar sorry that you feel rough. Sending you feel better vibes.

rabbit that is excellent news about the IVF. Two rounds is great. Any idea of when it might be?

euro EC Saturday! Not long now.

sea That must have been some heartburn. Jeez! Are you okay now? I swear by guzzling Gaviscon liquid straight from the bottle If that still doesn't work they do some tablets containing ratincid or something like that which are like magic pills!

Buzz How are you doing? Any news? Been thinking about you.

princess, many congrats again. You've inspired me to check out hypnobirthing! And hurrah for chubby gorgeous babies. My mum loves to remind me that when I was born, the West Indian midwife who delivered me said 'nice and meaty this one' !

sar so sorry to hear you are still feeling terrible. Take it easy and I so hope that this passes and you can start enjoying your pregnancy - it seems doubly unfair when you struggled so hard to get there! I think all 10 plussers should be guaranteed a no-sickness 9 months!

euro good luck with your EC, it is so close now! I totally agree with you and sar on the extra embies thing. It does nag at me that I have 5 blastos in the freezer. I feel guilty about it, both because I got 5 when some people don't get any, so I'm being ungrateful, and also because I just don't think I can bring up 6 children. MrC would never agree to it, for a start! At the same time I don't think I can donate them to another couple, which I know is awful and selfish. I just don't know if I could live with the thought of our genetic children (and siblings of our child/ren) growing up somewhere else in another family. I'd be worried they would come to me as adults and be upset that I'd 'given them away'. I do worry about my five little lottery tickets sitting in a lab a lot and I can completely understand your reluctance to create lots of embies that might not be used.

rabbit Dr Nice sounds wonderful and it's amazing that you're getting two fully-funded rounds. I think going ahead is the right thing to do. I agonized over IVF, especially as I felt that if I'd waited another six months for my cycles to (maybe) regulate after Project Fatso, I might have got pregnant naturally. But like gin, now I am pregnant, it doesn't seem to matter how I got there. I'm now almost 9 weeks and have my first midwife appointment today and am firmly in the region of 'normals', and all the drugs and injections already seem a long time ago. I really think this is a good choice for you. The end result is what matters and this will give you a great shot at it. Also - your pinterest board is awesome and has totally inspired me to get knitting again!

buzzy how are you? I hope everything is ok with mini-buzz.

sea the heartburn episode sounds terrifying. MrC once ended up in A and E after a really bad heartburn attack so I know how scary it can be. Poor you. I hope you're resting and comfortable now.

pout I would really recommend meditation too. I don't do it that much, but sister critter does an hour a day and it's made her so much calmer and happier after a crap few years of heartbreak. We're hopefully going tonight to see one of her favourite meditation speakers, Tara Brach who's giving a talk near DC.

mrsd I am so sorry you're feeling anxious. I hope you have some time to relax over the summer and be outside - sunshine always makes me feel a bit better.

Waves to all - everything is good here, not feeling my finest physically with a combo of weird lower backache, sickness and tiredness, but all in a very good cause, and I know it won't last. I am just so relieved to be here and I just so hope that the rest of the 10 plussers can be here too soon.

Wow, 9 weeks already, critter!

sea it's not suprising that you have some weird stuff going on, with all the drugs you are taking. I hope you feel better now.

I don't think I'm going to need to worry about loads of left over embies. My scan this morning showed only two of the follies making a go of it. I'm a bit peed off - I've done that without any drugs on a natural IUI cycle! (I have twins in my family, so it's not surprising that I seem to occasionally pop out more than one egg.) I wish I hadn't bothered taking the drugs, frankly (they are just making me grumpy(ier). Still, only a few more days. They want to scan me again tomorrow, but it looks very much like it'll be trigger tomorrow and EC Saturday.

euro is there a chance that a couple of others might catch up?? I would be peeved if I had taken the drugs too

rabbit good news on the IVF front, its not something we chose to do but like gin said when it works you don't care how you got there, I have almost forgotten that I did DE IVF, everything else just takes over

sea heartburn is nasty and alot of people who have heart attacks think its a case of bad heartburn so best to get it looked at

pout any news on Colin ???

sar sorry you don't feel well

critter when is your next scan??? I just got some Omeprazole for the indigestion hope it works

I have just seen my delightful immune specialist, he gave me a scan and let me listen to the heartbeat, he seemed very pleased with himself and with me well done me for not killing my baby off

I've still got a long way to go so taking each day as it comes, hoping there will be some BFP's on here soon, remember that those of us who have a BFP thought it would never happen to us either :) it will happen for you too

Sar ? I?m sorry you are feeling poorly. I hope it goes away soon. I can recommend Gaviscon Cool for the heartburn. It says suitable for pregnant ladies on the packet.

Rabbit ? I am so pleased you saw Dr Nice. He sounds delightful. It makes such a difference when you see someone who understands and shows empathy doesn?t it? I am really glad your doc is one of these. Excellent news. I think moving onto IVF is a good decision. As for wishing you did not need IVF. I think that is very normal. I think that every time I go for an appointment. I just can?t believe this is me. I never ever thought getting pregnant would be so difficult. But like others have said, I think once you are diffed (which I am sure you will be), it really doesn?t make any difference. It?s great news your PCT is funding 2 rounds. Mine said that too but if I go private they won?t fund any. To be honest I would have waited as they have actually told me I can go on my NHS round in Oct, which is when I want to do the private anyway but because they don?t believe in immunes I have decided to leave it and go for the private round. It?s all so confusing isn?t it. I was changing my mind every week about what to do at one point? I really hope it works for you. Oh and I think if you are a worrier (which I am too) the TTC and AC stuff really makes it so much worst. The yoga and mediation does help but I still have some sleepless nights. Agree with you about the fertility gurus.

Gin ? Wow at the bump. So so pleased for you. I am sure the glow will be upon you soon. Hope the tooth is doing okay.

Pout ? How?s the Vit B working? I am hoping it will work for you. It does for some! Yes it was the Gaviscon Cool pills that did it for me in the end. I have never had heartburn before so had no idea what it was or what it felt like or that there are so many liquids and chews that treat it!

Critter ? I am sorry you are not feeling your finest. I am sure the glow will be upon you very soon.

Euro ? Have you change name?? You only need one? Saturday is so close. I have a really good feeling about this one for you!

Buzzy ? So so happy to hear all is okay and you heard the heartbeat!!! Yay! I was worried about you. Delighted all is working well.

I had a bit of a wobble today for no apparent reason. I was on the way to see my TB doctor and I think it was the sight of a father pushing a little Chinese baby girl with a fringe (I don?t know why but I love children with a fringe). I felt a wave of incredible sadness and was actually tearing up on the street. I had a moment where it just all felt so unattainable. This coupled with the fact that my local pharmacist now greet me like an old friend made me feel quite down. I used to avoid drugs even when I have really bad pains. Now I feel like I am rattling from the amount of drugs I am taking. Anyway? not much news. TB doc wants me to wait a bit more before Humira injections. My liver is doing okay with the antibiotics but I have quite a few rashes on my body and he thinks it?s safer to wait. Thanks for listening to my moan ladies.

Waves to all. Enjoy the warm weather (at last!)

sea big hug about that moment, they are so hard. But keep going lady. This is just a really high hurdle that you are clearing, just a little bit left to scale. Glad the heartburn is better. So have you passed up your NHS go? I think I am very lucky to have the opportunity to have my funding redirected to a private clinic. I feel like I will believe it when I see it though.

euro maybe there will be more follies that make it. But two is still double the value - you've done it before I am convinced it won't be long before you get your golden egg.

critter I hadn't heard of those meditations I don't think.. I will have a look. I have a lot that I delve into but new is always good. Hope you feel less grotty soon. It seems rotten that early pregnancy, which should be such an exciting time, makes you feel so crappy. I have been tidying up Pinterest and find it very pleasing :)

pout I think by the time I get the nhs/clinic all merged it may well be September. But that is OK. You still on track for next month?

cosmos are you still here? Where are you up to with your fet?

I am loving this weather. Maybe the sunshine will get me diffed

sea I would have been very happy to just get one - without the drugs! That was the original plan and I wish I had stuck to it.

Yep, the name change is due to being called zammo the smackhead on another thread, due to my apparent inability to say no when they are offered to me. Only the late-30-somethings will get the reference I think!

I'm sorry to hear that you are feeling down and still suffering with the drugs.

I'm loving the belated summer too, rabbit. It definitely makes me feel better.

Quiet here, innit?

I've just had my final scan before EC. I have one follie ready to go and three others that are trying but not there yet. So they have put EC back a day to Sunday and have asked me to stimm for one more day.

euro does that mean you'll get 4 or will the big juicy one have to be scarificed

I don't know. I'm quite worried about that as my clinic said at the open day that the naturally selected egg is usually the best one. I asked today but didn't really get a clear answer. Sunday seems a long time away and a long time for that egg to sit and stew (but it is when I would have oved naturally).

How are you doing today?

It is quiet. just sneaking a quick check in between appointments.

I hope the big folly chooses to chill out and relax while another few catch up euro. Sometimes drugs or no drugs makes little difference i think. our bodies do what they want to. i did high dose stimms for over two weeks and only got two eggs. i am pretty sure i would have produced one of those on my own.

I am finally coming to the end of af after 10 days and some near catastrophes with sanpro failures and i am starting to feel better. mood swings are here but hot flushes are still quite weak. will enjoy the quiet before the storm.

Back tonight to catch up!

euro hopefully you'll get all 4 eggs on Sunday, I am feeling better today think that could be the Omeprazole which Shehata financial screwed me over for trying not to think the worst has happened

madness glad you are feeling better

Maybe. It's just a bit of a shock to go from "wow you've got 15 follies trying to grow; let's throw in some drugs" to "we'll see if we can get more than one" in 5 days... I would have been happy with one to start with!

I'm sure it is the omeprazole.

it nice to feel 'normal' but can't help but worry, I can understand that you thought with 15 follies to grow there would be a few at the same stage, fingers crossed for Sunday though