TRC 10+ months. Part 15...

[MuddyWellyNelly]

New thread for the lovely 10+ers. 14 was awesome so another like that please!

Hello all,

I'm also very jealous at the gardening comments. Crikey Rabbit you sound like you should be ON countryfile never mind watching it! i am very impressed. Everything in my last garden just kept dying, which i took as a sign that i can't grow anything (i know childish). The thought of you all pulling fresh veg out of your gardens is great, its so 'the good life'!

Euro thats very brave of you to be upfront with your colleagues. The fact that she got excited is lovely and a reminder of that it can and does work and that's all she knows. I have a younger colleague who is a mother of 2 (accidentally) and she just can't put 2 and 2 together about why i haven't got children. She's asked me in so many different ways, but its almost a sport for me now. When i told her last week about a mutual friend who is pg she said 'oh you should get pg now so that you can be pg together' i replied 'oh yes that's a great idea, wouldn't that be nice'.... Some people live in a world where everything pg related is happy and excitable! And sticking with Rabbit's theme of positivity that will be you too soon.

Mrsden i was really shocked at the jewellery comment. That must have stung so much. I can sort of understand you not telling them now if they have a tendency to be a bit thoughtless like that. There was a point where i hardly told anyone. i have found it a bit easier though now to be more upfront, particularly when directly asked (apart from with divvy younger colleagues!). The covering it up became a 'thing' in itself to worry about eventually. And i have to admit i have lately been lapping up the sympathy. What people on here were saying about playing second fiddle to those with families, we've become somewhat of a 'special case' amongst our family and friends now and seem to have the opposite of being treated with kid gloves. A big part of me hates that treatment just as much as having to play second fiddle.

Buzzy how are things going, are you starting to feel any more confident yet? I take it you've had no more bleeding? When's your next scan?

Gin and Sar I'm thrilled with your progress. Such fantastic news. Princess must be due around now isn't she? I'd like to hear of a real baby coming out of this thread.

So another AF for me today. They don't get easier do they. We had an appointment pre FET round at the weekend. Here's what i think does not make things easier. When we saw him before the last IVF he said the chances for me were i think 20% for IVF and 10% for FET? Something a bit lower than usual anyway. This appointment he said that for someone of my age and looking at the blasts there should have been a 70% chance that it worked. Eh? Why don't they just say 'look i'm sorry love but i really haven't got the foggiest'? And the bizzarest thing is we spent the rest of the afternoon in a positive glow, whereas actually we're no closer...?! Anyway FET round is coming up, probably start downregging end of july cos of holidays. i have zero expectations of this - if a previous 5 embies haven't made it, then i don't see why these ones should, i still feel like there's a missing piece of the jigsaw puzzle. Anyway, please don't bother responding to my waffling i'm more just off loading my thoughts into cyberspace....! Actually i was feeling really down today but Rabbit's posts about positivity have cheered me up again.

Did anyone see the news about Kate Winslet? Can i admit to a few sniggers and smug grin about the mean comments about her being a 3x3? Oh and did anyone see the documentary about the call centre in wales? Hilarious. I really hope it doesn't turn out to be acted.

I've probably missed off loads of things, sorry, big waves to you all.

Hello ladies

Ths gardening talk is mighty impressive. I am of the kill plants via neglect kind usually but this year we have mafe a huge effort with our garden. We have a few simple pots which were planted by others and they get watered. Beyond that, we know nothing. I would love to grow salad and veg but don't have the foggiest. I found a dog poo in our garden the other day (we dont have dogs). This made me scream and vom so I need to get a grip and be more at one with nature..

Cosmos- great to hear from you. I think you should be joyous about those stats. They are representative of your chances and just goes to show the drs do sometimes make it up a bit. I remember numerous change of tack conversations. I remember one corker of a dr telling me my ivf fail was due to multiple and large tubal swellings and i must remove my tubes immediatley but he told me the next time that my tubes werent of great concern and they would never have put me forward for ivf if they thought it wouldnt work and simply to try again. Hmmmmmm. I understand your retinance to think this fet could be the one after 5 embies before and can relate to feeling something is missing. There really is every chance that you have just had plain old bad luck in the same way someone does who takes a year to conceive where there is nothing wrong. It could also be due to an overly fussy womb which is something my consultant suggested I had which again just needs time. Another thouht is how long is it since your lap. Could there be even a smidging of inflammation in the tubes? Don't lose hope, you make great embryos. Your colleague sounds annoyingly naive and not even aware enough to feel embarrassed by her questions.

Rabbit- delighted to hear you are feeling positive and determined. That fsh at 10 thing is the biggest pile of rubbush ever. sorry about the ibs worries. Some good advice here.

Euro - well done on that ivf conversation. I hope you are feeling ok about the upcoming cycle.

Gin- well done you for being so open ivf. This will certainly help people to understand the stress of it alll and make them think how they treat people without children in the future.

Mad- so sorry about the spotting.

Well I am 12.4 weeks and scan tomorrow. The nausea is subsiding by still feel odd/ icky. Never mind. I am telling the wider groups of peeps this week. I worry people wont know how to take my news as there has been nothing for so long and I cant be bothered to tell everyone about my corrective surgery. But then again I am probably over thinking this as people are often wrapped up in thier own lives.

Hello to all and sorry for not name checking.

sar that was more likely to be fox poo than dog poo (unless it was in the front garden?).

Good luck for the scan!

cosmos it's good to see you back here. I hope FET goes well. I never understood the 10% you were quoted before. I think the new stats make more sense! You have reason to be optimistic.

Just a quick one as you have dropped off my active convos list!

Rabbit loving the positivity and chat today! You are a true gardening goddess, the only thing we grow are potatoes and only because we never manage to get them all dug out each year!

Cosmos and Sea good to see you both. We all wondered about the low stats Cosmos, they did sound weird.

Euro a bit of epic cleaning does always make me feel better; more in control!

Sar good luck for the scan

Buzzy how are you? You asked about DE. I don't think we are ready to give up on my own eggs yet. But at other times I just want to forget the whole disastrous thing and move on; so who knows.

Gin the allotment sounds great and yay for a good scan.

Lemon good that you are coping ok so far but grrr to thrush.

AFM I think AF is building up but in all honesty no idea as my first post ivf cycle is meant to be long so could be another week yet.

I had a very tough time at a social gathering this weekend, as I was on the receiving end of at least half a dozen unintentionally soul destroying comments.

So the shower... A shelf in there may have come down with the tiles it was attached to. And I may have been resting a foot on it at the time

Gotta go for now, I know I've been a bit rubbish. Waves to everyone else I missed including pout Den Critter Doll Teu Art and countless others!

This is just a quick post because I'm exhausted and I need to get my dinner. Sorry for the fail link but I saw this and had to share with you www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2332798/Pregnant-months-money-New-programme-claims-make-ANY-women-pregnant-24-weeks.html oh if only we'd all thought to have sex and drink water and eat breakfast etc.

I promise I'll be back tomorrow to catch up, good luck for the scan sar x

mrsd its no surprise its the Daily Fail

cosmos I was thinking of you the other day, it really is numbers game, fingers crossed for your FET

nelly how many rounds do you think you will of IVF, I can understand that you want to keep trying with your own eggs, sounds like you have a bit of DIY to be doing

sar good luck with your scan tomorrow :)

critter I am enjoying mini baked potatoes with sour cream and cheese hope you have had a lovely time with sister critter

lemon sorry about the thrush

sweet when are you planning your scan/doppler

mad the bleeding sounds frustrating, just when you want your body to behave

gin I have not heard of the link to miscarriages, I am sure there is something they can give you pout is right about the salt water gargle, oldies are the best

pout I hope shagged Mr P's brain out

rabbit I think there ie too much emphasis on sats, a lady on another thread is pregnant with her FSH at 9.2. Another lady fell pregnant naturally with an AMH as low as mine so it does happen, I would contact the clinic and see how long the wait list is for

euro I think its best to let people know that you don't need extra pressure.

One of the carer at work has a daughter who is starting IVF later this year, so we had a bit of a chat about today.

I have had a few stressful moments with lack of symptoms and spotting again, I am sick most days nearly all day, usually worse during working hours , sometimes its hard to function and deal with patients, also hard to do things round the house, I try keep things under control for when Barry comes back on the weekend so he doesn't have to do it
I have finally got all my drugs from overseas so that should save me some money, Kayla is being very snuggly with me extremely demanding

I have a scan tomorrow so hoping that everything is progressing as it should

hello to everyone else

Evening ladies,

I wish that I could take credit for all the gardening prowess around here but alas it is all down to MrM. I am very good at supervising and providing advice on colour combinations . I am also very good at eating the food he produces .

rabbit I would call to ask about when you should expect to get an appointment. Surely the whole point of going private is doing away with the stressful limbo of waiting for an appointment????

Buzzy will be thinking of you tomorrow. The sickness is a very good sign but every scan will be stressful. I will be getting a scan too and unlike you, I am hopeful that it will show absolutely nothing

mrsd I would like to sit down that "neuroscientist" with some of our consultants and see how long he was able to defend his "treatment". Bloody Daily Fail.

euro some of my colleagues know. It would be more stressful to make up lots of lies to explain things. They are all much more positive about it than me although perhaps more cautiously so now that the first round failed.

Nice to see yo nelly.

Sorry for not name checking everyone. Still stressing about spotting that hasn't properly turned into Af. Will go for appointment tomorrow anyway and see what they say. They might not let me have the injection but I hope that they will scan me anyway. Planning to POA leftover S in the morning because that usually brings Af on

buzz/mad I've generally been open about our ishoos with everyone apart from work folk and found it helpful to destigmatise the fertility crap, but I have kept it away from work. One friend at work knew but no one else. But I was being asked to commit to dates for various work trips over the summer and it was stressing me trying to make up excuses for why I couldn't just look at my calendar and come up with some dates. I haven't mentioned the current round though. The person I had to tell is my competition for promotion though, so she is probably relieved!

Morning lovelies!

Massive good luck for the scan today buzz. And wow at 12+4 sar. Time is flying if it isn't me doing the waiting.

I have been quite open to people, as you lot know, about our TTC-disasters. But I have not told anyone about the current IVF cycle. It has been really difficult dealing with people's expectations and hope as well as our own. Oh, and I haven't told anyone at not so new job, which I started when diffed last year.

Impressed with the good gardening and desperate for an allotment of our own now!

Nice to see you again cosmos - good luck with the FET and sea I hope all is well with you.

Waves and tail feathers in honour of a must-be-producing-that-baybee princess.

I think I've walked into Gardeners' World by mistake I like gardening but I leave the hard stuff to DH, I prefer to potter. We did grow veg a few years ago but I found it too time consuming, and the constant watering was a bit of a pain. But I'm lazy

buzz and sar best of luck for scans today.

mad are you having a scan too? The bleeding sounds very annoying, I hope you get an answer and can move forward.

joy are you back from holidays yet? I hope you've had a fabulous time.

euro I hope your colleague will be supportive and not pester you for updates. I think people often only hear about ivf when it's been successful so I think people see it can be very positive and assume it will work. I think I prefer that than to people's doom and gloom stories.

I've got womble pain and brown watery discharge which I'm thinking is the start of af. This is worrying, I so hope there is no cyst again. I'm sure I haven't ovulated so there is something up. I want to be normal!

I hear you mrsd. I don't think i've ever been normal but i miss the days when i thought i was . I don't think the cyst will be back. mine aren't and they grow like flaming weeds.

After much waffling at the clinic they gave me a pregnancy test and then (because of course it was negative) they gave me my injection. frustratingly they are now dangling the possibility of a July cycle but can't tell me for a few weeks. MrM really waits a holiday so i think we might have to opt for waiting until august as planned. would be great to do it over school holidays but that means no chance of a sunny holiday until Christmas. School holidays are absolutely fab but in no way are they flexible. Will discuss with MrM tonight.

Thinking of you buzz

madness Sorry about timings limbo. It is frustrating to feel that life is on hold.

lemons How is the treatment going with you? What stage are you at?

buzz Good luck today. Will be thinking of you.

mrsd Like you, I can't be arsed with the watering aspect of plants.
I actually found that DM article quite interesting in places. I don't believe the claims of getting everybody pregnant within 24 weeks but some parts did chime especially the stress/elevated cortisol bit and lack of sleep. MrP said recently that he thinks I am too stressed by family stuff that has been going on years (I actually feel dizzy and the room spins when I talk about it) and he thinks this is why I'm yet to be diffed. I kind of agree but don't know how to stop being stressed which stresses me out! I also haven't had an unbroken nights sleep in about 5 years but short of having my bladder removed I don't know how to fix that either. I did panic about the stop eating cheese part......well that really is the final straw.

Would that be a cheese straw pout?

at euro but pout what's with not eating cheese? I don't understand. To sleep? To get pregnant? I think Gardener's World has done my head in

at cheese straw.

[doll] the article suggested that high fat foods like cheese is bad for TTC which is odd because I had convinced myself that dairy was a good thing [wishful thinking smiley]

Ahhh got it, thanks pout. I think cheese is a good thing in all circumstances. I have to limit MN access 'cause folks keep floating about making all kinds of claims about what kind of cheese are banned by the pregnancy police. It's just not for me, this bad mouthing of cheese [cheesy smile]

cheese I have already eaten 700 gms of the stuff already this week cheddar of course, its my favourite, I also gave it up for a while and it didn't make any difference

so my scan shows a blob measuring the right size and a so called flickering heartbeat, could barely see it, so today has been good but I'm still cautious at this stage

thanks for all your good wishes, I do appreciate it

Good news Buzzy!! One day at a time. I can imagine how scary it is for you.

Sar I hope yours went well and that no news is good news?

We have no Internet today and shaky 3G so will just post this. Waves to everyone else.

So pleased about your scan, buzz!

doll I think a relaxed attitude to cheese is essential to ttc.

Great news buzzy

Still haven't managed to catch up and write the long name check post I wanted to but just wanted to say Yay for buzzy. So happy scan looked good.
Love to all 10 plussers. I have been v bad lately on here.
Hope to sneak some time tomorrow and write properly. Xxxxx

Quick catch up to say my scan went well. It was lovely actually and due date brought forward very slightly. Couldn't post yesterday as didn't get home until late and no signal elsewhere. Also came down with a heavy cold abd feeling a bit pants.

Buzz- delighted that you had a good scan too.

Waves to all, x

Morning all :)

Lovely scan news on here is fab to hear about.

I'm not sure I've congratulated the newly diffed buzzy and critter - so here are my belated congrats!!

Nelly your shower antics made me how will you explain THAT to the person that comes in to fix it!!

Good luck with the upcoming IVF rounds - euro, cosmos, lemon and madness

Sorry for the absolutely horridness of others - mrsd I was heartbroken by your heirloom story. How can people be so unintentionally hurtful? It's so not on.

Loving the veggie talk - we still have veg left in our patch from last year. Nothing has been done in the garden and its looking like a weird nature reserve now. We plan to save up and get a team of gardeners in at some point. No time to do garden things chez princess. Rabbit your garden sounds amazing!!

Waves to all missed x

Anyway, my news - 1. We moved in on Tuesday night - we're no-where near finished but we're habitable and in our own home, which after a scrubbing by my mum and dad is dust free and baby ready! I have been on cloud 9 for the last 2 days and loving having my own space and being able to walk around in just pants with bed hair and eating cereal standing up if I want (does slow fat pregnant twirl) woooo! 2. The baby is late but imminent. Due date was Monday. Still no sign. Feeling huge and uncomfortable now and totally ready for the big day. I will of course let you know when mini princess arrives. Hopefully later today? We've done the hot hot curry, we're on a sex ban so can't do that and we're off for a long walk today....

Keep the faith ladies, keep the faith.

Luffs to you all :) xxx

Yay sar, I'm so pleased all is well! I was thinking of you yesterday and wondering how you got on. What is your due date now? Wanna bet we have them on the same day?!

OMG princess, very very soon you will have your baby :) Such fab news about the house and how lovely that you will be able to bring mini-P back to her very own home.

Cheese is now evil? FFS. I eat loads of the stuff as a veggie and I agree with pout that dairy must be good for you if you don't have an intolerance.

Congrats again buzz. Deep breath and one day at a time. I can imagine 10 weeks is going to be a tough week for you. I haven't done a whole week in work for ages, by making sure I work from home or have a day off at least once a week and found it really helped with feeling shit and got me through the weeks.

madness exciting that your next cycle could be as early as July! Must be frustrating when you can't take hols outside of the prescribed time. Did you have a scan?

mrsd try not to worry bout the spotting. After the first ivf I had a lot, although had never really had it previously so I mentalled it was implantation

Gotta go. Hope everyone else is ok. All fine here and my tooth seems to be a tad better, after 3 days of bit being able to chew solid food hopefully it's not killed my baby

Gosh it's almost like a fertile thread. All these scans and imminent labours . It's all still foreign to me though...

Sar I'm so happy for you. Did you cry? I think I would.

Princess it's just a couple of tiles. We will do them ourselves to save the embarrassing story