TRC 10+ months. Part 15...

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New thread for the lovely 10+ers. 14 was awesome so another like that please!

I'm sorry but I just had to pop in to say feck off Kate Garraway! Dave's sperms have never worked and unless I'd met him when he was 1 and marched him to the drs for an op on his undescended boy bits, I don't see how starting ttc earlier would have helped. I think it's really irresponsible of MN to champion this kind of campaign, which just promotes the whole Daily Fail besh mentality. Grrrr.

I think my hormones may be a bit all over the place today, considering how cross this has made me

Gin , age has nothing to do with our fertility problems. We started when I was 28, I do sometimes wish I had started earlier because Ivf outcomes are better the younger the woman is but starting g before 28 would have been really irresponsible. We waited until we were married, finished studying, in secure jobs, owned our house, were mature and sensible enough etc. it is a stupid campaign. There seems to be agreement on that on the web chat thread.

I also meant to say good luck lemons! I have my fingers crossed for you

No time to linger but thinking of you today lemon!!

I've just posted a somewhat prickly question on that thread. I doubt it will be selected...

I've commented twice on there now, not really questions. It annoys me so much that these people are making money out of infertility and trying to make us feel worse than we already do.

I think I do need to see the dr. We Dtd last night and it felt sore and burning so there is definitely something not quite right. I have never really suffered with anything before so ivf has broken me. My poor body. I also suspect I'm not going to ovulate this month.

Good luck today lemons. Everything is crossed that its a lucky round.

I couldn't find the web chat but will look later

lemon go get that golden egg

mrsd I think its time to get it sorted if it is still causing you pain

buzz it's the first entry on Active if you click on that.

mrsd, your comments were picked up.

Zita and Kate are so far coming out with what I think is..."a load of old flannel".

Hi everyone,

I have been reading and slowly catching up on what everyone is up to.

I am so sorry so many of you seem to be camping out in tents.

Buzzy - Congratulations. I laughed at the mustard comments.

Lemon - I hope this is the cycle. I really hope you don't need to follow through on your very sensible plans.

MrsD - I would see someone to get that sorted.

Euro - I hope the biopsy does the trick and you can move forward.

MrsD and Gin - I started ttc just after I turned 26, not exactly ancient. If we hadn't gotten the mysterious post-hsg bfp we were headed straight for IVF (at 27, nearly 28!). A friend of mine took 4 years to conceive before IVF treatment worked she started ttc at the ripe old age of 24. I agree that "whole waiting too long" isn't the case for many people facing infertility issues. Personally I think that tired line is an excuse to blame people facing this scary process and somehow make them feel like they brought infertility on themselves, which is simply not true.

Anyways back to work, hopefully I can keep up better now that the have a new internet wire.

honestly what do they hope to achieve by this campaign, perhaps if they offered help earlier on it might not take so long for some us

hey ladies

ok this is a me me me post, I need a bit of hand holding right now, as you know I have immune issues and take medication for it, I have a specialist who I see, now I should have seen him before I went away but I let it too late and then he was away, I didn't think it was the end of the world plus it would save me money....

So I go today, his nurse Louise was lovely and so nice when I told her why I was there and that we had done DEIVF she was lovely,

So I go in to see Shehata I then explain to him that since I saw him in Aug 2012, I went to Create had a Fertility MOT and decided that the best option was DEIVF and now I was pregnant, well the first thing he said was why did you go to Create then he asked why I chose DE over my own and that your AMH means nothing and that he has a patient who has a lower AMH than me who is now 8 weeks pregnant!! I am like then he went on, when did I start taking the meds, so I told him, he said that was correct and that I should have spoken to him before as he has a protocol for immunes and IVF and that I should have had blood thinners. At this stage he very begrudgingly said congrats, grilled me some more and then assumed that I would have all my scans with him, I reminded him that I am under his NHS recurrent miscarriage clinic. So he gave me the meds I needed instead of a prescription so paid twice as much I am booked in for intralipids on Friday so can't see my GP until next Wednesday. I feel so awfu and guilty that while he ranted abou not using my own eggs I did actually think 'have I made a big mistake using DE' I have never questioned it until now

I'm going to write him a letter.....................

waves to everyone else and sorry for off loading, I just feel so

Right, I am here to hold hands. You made the right decision for you and Barry. You realised that with your AMH the chances of conceiving (on your first ever IVF round) were slim. You and Barry could not support another round financially, let alone cope with the whole rigmarole endless times. So based on that you made an informed decision. MrS should keep his big fat mouth shut. If he thought he could get you pregnant and keep you pregnant easily, he should have told you so before. He didn't and you acted on your own information, advice and gut. You will be an amazing mum to you Brno-twins and his concern should be to get you through this pregnancy. It sounds like there is a bit of hurt ego and annoyance about missed earning-opportunities on his side. So there.

On other news I have a wopping 46mil, 95% motility, swimmers washing around my single egg, golden or not. It can't be down to SB's contribution for once...

Now it is time for tea, what bland but nourishing food can I cook the diffed department? And what cocktails shall I serve in the tent?

Cocktails here please!! Maybe a posh bellini or something with raspberries in honour of the sun?? I don't do cocktails very often so suggestions welcome tight Oh and go swimmers go!!!!

buzzy shame on him for making you question your decisions. regardless of what he thinks you are now pregnant so you made the right decision. End of. My amh is "normal" but I only got two egg and am not pregnant. If this had not been a funded round and i couldn't fund anymore i would be devastated. tell him to take his sour grape elsewhere. you are improving brno's statistics and will make an awesome mum. feeling very for you!!!

Well done mrsd and euro for wading in to the web chat. i just had a glance. not even going to let myself get worked up. I can't be arsed.....

Buzzy - I agree with Lemon and Madness, I think your doctor was having an ego fit. He should be more focused on your health as a pregnant woman and less on how you got there.

Lemon - yay for all the sperm! Hopefully they will meet your egg. As for my favorite bland foods lately, I would accept plain toast or a couple slices of apple .

buzzy your doc can stuff it. Where was he when you were making this decision? You thought it through carefully, you had limited funds and one shot at this whole IVF thing. You made an educated choice with a wonderful, wonderful result. Angry on your behalf.

Yay lemon for all the swimmers! Fingers tightly crossed...

den and euro that webchat was ridiculous. Grrrr. They didn't have solid answers to the valid questions and issues that were raised anyway.

sweet have a salty cracker.

madness bellinis sound heavenly!

Off to Florida tomorrow for a long weekend, I can't wait. There's been a lot of upheaval at work recently so will be lovely to have some time in the sun with MrC!

Buzz - absolutely agree with what everyone else says. What a shameful thing to say. You didn't walk in to it lightly > You have absolutely done the right thing. These doctors forget that funds is a massive factor in all our decisions. I'm pleased all your immunes are under control though.

Euro - i'm pleased the other day went ok and hopefully there will be no more of this anymore. Still such shitty luck you have had.

Mrsd - well done for wading in the debate. I see Zita & Garraway scuttled off pretty quickly because they spent the whole time trying to defend the campaign. They have totally misjudged it but then again they are being paid by FR so they probably don't care and it's just more publicity for FR. IAnd as for that silly garraway woman. Why doesn't she say how grateful she is that she had kids when she did rather than say she wished she had them earlier.

Lemon - I really really hope this is the golden month for you.

So i'll be off here for a while as I'm going on my hols. I just want to say thanks for all your support this year . It has meant so much. I must say the last few weeks have been really strange as I have been feeling incredibly low, not something I have really experienced before on this scale. My period arrived thankfully but it hasn't taken away this feeling of lowness and angst. I can't put my finger on what is going on but I'm hoping the holiday will clear my head. I will return when the doom and gloom clears.

Very best wishes to Gin, Sar, Critter and Buzz for your scans.

Buzzy, take no notice of him. You and Barry made the best decision you could after weighing everything up. If he'd been willing to offer you a free round then maybe that would have been a goer but you're working with limited funds and had to go for the most likely to succeed option. The important thing is that you're pregnant and you're going to be a mum. Doctors have big egos and they don't like to think that someone else is taking the glory.

Joy, have a fantastic holiday, you really deserve it. I'm not surprised you've been down, I've been feeling pretty low and I've not been through half of what you have.

joy have a fantastic holiday. Let's get together for another drink when you are back.

buzz I completely agree with the comments others have made - you did what was right for you, and you are fucking preggo!

drizz g'luck! Let's hope this is your pre-IVF ironidiff!

critter enjoy Florida! We're heading for a shyte bank holiday here, so I very jealous.

mrsd you are sounding better. Are you feeling ready to emerge from th tent soon.

madness cocktails sound good. :)

How are you doing sweet?

Hi lovely 10 plussers.
Going through a v busy period so not posting much.

Just wanted to say I'm glad it was not anything serious euro. Hope you can get going in the ivf soon.

Lemons hope this IUI is the one for you.

Mrsd. You should get the burning seen to. Worth getting it checked out.

Buzzy. I'm simply shocked by the reaction of your doc. Very very poor.

Joy. Have a wonderful hols. Hope it clears you head. You have been through a lot.

Waves to all. All quiet on the fertility front. Head down and hard at work. Decided to start charting temp as suggested by woo doc.
Never done it before. Hope I manage to get it right.

i'm sitting at my local epau hoping for a blood test as i'm still spotting I forgot how miserable this place is

Buzzy, I didn't know you were spotting. Will they scan you or is it too early? I'm thinking of you.

its way to early, i'm hoping I can get a blood test but they might just send me away

Oh no buzzy, I didn't realise you were spotting either. I really hope everything is ok - I think spotting is fairly common in the first few weeks, especially around when AF would have been due, but I know this won't help the mentalling. For the CB digi to go up to 2-3 weeks already, you must have v. good hcg levels. Lots of love and take care of yourself. I hope Barry is with you.

Waves to everyone else. joy have an amazing holiday. You totally deserve it after everything you've been through.

Just a quick hand hold for Buzzy. Hoping everything is ok. And as for your Doctor. Well, where do I sign up? 2 rounds of IVF haven't worked for me and we have similar AMH. What's his amazing secret .

Have a great holiday Joy and forget all about us, and therefore TTC, while you are away. You deserve so much better than the shit you have had this year.

Lemon hurrah for super swimmers!

Gotta go just now. Our sun has turned back to freezing today. Brrrrr.

Buzz-holding your hand at this scary time. You poor thing! But early spotting is common and things are probably ok. But I know it is hard to feel comforted. And as for dr s. Bloody hell, what utter nonsense he speaks. And I agree with others this is about his ego. Why do fertility drs seem to think we have no right to make informed and independent decisions or question anything. You werent told that you would likley get a bfp with 1 cycle and your own eggs. Therefore you made a brave and successful decision to go for de. Which has paid off big time. I am very cross about how he has spoken to you and unnerved you. Where was his patient centred care? Where was his ethical code to 'do no harm'? A strong word via pals me thinks?

Lemon - hoorah for a golden egg and bountiful swimmers. Oooo I have an excited feeling for you.

Joy- have a wonderful holiday.

Sea - hood luck with the temping. Hopefully it will reveal some useful info.

Sweet - hope things are progressing well and you are managing to avoid any nausea.

Well done euro and den with yesterdays web chat. Piddle off garraway and do one zita.
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Feeling worse every day and throwing up lots, but I think this is the peak week. I am 10 weeks. But hay ho.