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TRC 10+ months. Part 15...

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MuddyWellyNelly · 05/05/2013 15:55

New thread for the lovely 10+ers. 14 was awesome so another like that please!

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seaviewasia · 16/05/2013 22:21

Just saw Critter's news. Absolutely delighted for you
I'm so happy. This has made my day. X

Poutintrout · 16/05/2013 22:52

Congratulations critter that is fabulous news and I'm so thrilled for you. Grin

EuroShaggleton · 16/05/2013 22:55

Just popping on quickly to say I am so, so happy for you critter. I had been checking back all day, hoping for good news.

I'll catch up properly later, but I'm in a bit of a tizz tonight. I got home to find my smear result. Guess what? Abnormal again - the day before my first scan for IVF #2. I suppose we will put it off. Meh. This is exactly what happened a year ago. In fact, the result came in when I was downregging then. I am a fairly strong person but I think I might just have reached my limit of how many times I can be knocked down and get straight back up.

Sorry to mar the happy evening. I really am genuinely thrilled for your result, critter.

buzzybee123 · 16/05/2013 23:02

euro I did wonder where you were, I'm pretty pissed off and Angry for you, its just another kick in the teeth you don't need

seaviewasia · 16/05/2013 23:06

Oh no Euro! This is just horrible news. Do they know what is the matter. This must be v frustrating. A big handhold.

MuddyWellyNelly · 16/05/2013 23:27

Oh Euro, noooo. What a pile of shite. (Apologises to Critter for losing eloquence). I'm trying to remember, you've had a normal smear in between the abnormal ones, yes? I know nothing about it to be helpful but it is just a worry you don't need. And I can totally empathise on being worn out from fighting the Aintree sized hurdles that keep getting shoved in front of you. We are right beside you helping you fight. And also pouring wine. Big luffs

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joycep · 16/05/2013 23:42

Critter - yippee!! So many congratulations. Even if you weren't confident I was very confident for you! You have super eggs and super frosties. Well done you. Didn't you have one put back? That is indeed a super beta result....could it have split?!

Oh my goodness Euro, not again. What a shit year you have had. You'll have to remind me what you had to do last time and what does it mean if it is abnormal. I can't believe this is happening again...

More to say but late , will pop back tomorrow

sweetgrouch · 17/05/2013 00:04

Euro - That is just horrible news! I'm so sorry another hurdle just got thrown in your way. Will they give you a round of broad spectrum antibiotics ? Or redo it to be sure there was no error? They did both when I had mine. Big hand hold.

CritterPants · 17/05/2013 00:06

euro Sad Sad Sad I don't believe it, what a nightmare. Are they sure? Do they have to do anything in particular to clear it up - can you talk to your clinic about it? Oh honey I am so sorry, it is so unfair.

ZippyBopit · 17/05/2013 06:59

Yes! Yes! Yes! Critter hurrah! After punching the air above me with both hands and shouting yes!(freaked the cat out) I then burst into tears Blush happy tears of course. You may have opened up a pre-menstrual can of worms... Grin It's just such wonderful news Grin and as mrsd and nelly have said it is the good news that keeps us going Smile

Euro what an awful shitty result Sad do you get treatment to fix the abnormal cells? It must be so disappointing to have to put off the ivf Sad

Buzzy my heart goes out to you. The drugs you are having to take sound awful and I'm sure you will feel better physically and mentally as soon as you stop taking them. I have everything crossed for you for test day tomorrow.

Sorry, quick post, will hopefully pop back over the weekend to catch up properly. The chats on here recently have really resonated. Waves to all Smile

ThatWayMadnessLies · 17/05/2013 07:20

Oh euro I am so so sorry. Why can nothing ever be simple and straightforward???? Can you ring and speak to someone about the result today? What did they do last time? Take a deep breath and remember that we are all here to handhold xx

sarlat · 17/05/2013 07:22

Euro -flaming heck, really sorry for the crappy smear result. You couldnt make it up! I am not suprised you feal beat, this is so unfair. Right one foot in front of the other and one step at a time. Focus on your scan today. Thinking if you.

Buzz- I am so sorry that these rotten steroids are making you feel grotty beyond belief. When we feel that poorly, we just need it to stop. I have to say that I agree with others that different embryos feel different and ivf drugs without doubt change the sensations of implantation and early pregnancy. Also those of us who have been pregnant before are likley to get far less symptoms the next time. Hang on as long as you can sweetheart. You are doing great.

Critter - did you get much sleep last night? I am thrilled for you and giving you excited squeezy hand holds.

Joy - my heart is breaking for you. I have so much i want to say. Stay with me- I am going to pm you very soon. Sorry for not doing this sooner, the vomityness has kept me away from phones / computers just lately. Xx

rabbitonthemoon · 17/05/2013 07:41

Morning I have patchy wifi and no phone signal til tomorrow but skipping in to bear hug critter lady you are pregnant! Any bfp on here is a victory. Did you have two put back? So pleased for you, you lovely person. Do stay. I read a teenage book on poetry slams, last year I'd love to go to one.

euro NOOO. I can totally see how you feel beat. It is most strange you've had a clear smear inbetween, this has to be good. Sorry old bean, but this is just another sit by the roadside for a while moment and you'll be back on track before you know it.

nelly and joy and den your posts echoed EXACTLY how I feel at the moment, lonely and cast adrift from friends and family. This is a tough road, no mistake. I find comfort in knowing I am not alone but I dearly wish none of us were here at all. Wish we could all meet up easily.

buzzy extra strong loves to you. Keep going and no need to make palms now or feel you can't change your mind. I echo all the lovely things that have been said in here, especially that this is not you, it is the drugs and hormones.

Sorry for the quick post, waves to everyone else. I have had a little down patch now a year has passed since the op and also to discover that the new hospital are sending out the questionnaire I had from my other hospital two years ago as if I'm a new referral so I am down the big fat snake on the board back to Start. I cannot believe I've been treated so shoddily or that the estimation of when I will see a new consultant is four months, treatment 6 months. There will be more fighting but I think we are going to have a private consultation for advice in the meantime as I can't bear the limbo any longer.

Must dash for now, speak later. Keep going people and enjoy every second critter.

GinSoaked · 17/05/2013 08:52

Oh euro, fucking hell, I'm so so sorry and this is the last thing you deserve after such a crappy year. Can you ask the clinic what they recommend? What's next re the smear? Do you have to wait a bit and then repeat? After all the waiting, it must feel like a real kick in the balls. Hang in there. You are a v strong lady and will get through this and win your hard fought for baby.

rabbits sorry you are having a shit time too. I can't believe they are making you start over again. I think a couple of private goes before the NHS cycles come through are a good idea and will hopefully help to make you feel a bit better. I'm still so Angry at your original consultant.

lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 17/05/2013 10:09

Morning lovelies!

So sorry about the smear result euro. That really is a kick in the teeth. GRRR at the universe. What did you decide to do? Go for the scan or not? It has been quite enough for you.

Also rabbit, I cannot believe they make you go back to start. Can you call up to check this is correct? Or hassle the old hospital to forward your paperwork. I would be murderous if I got That Form again. I filled it in twice, as we moved hospitals, but those were the early days (10 months and 1,5 years in respectively - yes, we went to the doctors early). Either case it is very NOT fair. So I am cross on your behalf. And yelling at the incompetent administrators.

So rubbish you're not allowed to move during your NHS goes mad and that you need to down-reg for ages again. GRRRRR.

But hurrah for vominess sar, I am so pleased for you still. Nearly 12 weeks, wow, gin! And still Grin at the critter-diff (a pregnant belly clothed in silly patterns, clearly!)

As for me, I am working from home, so went to the clinic for a scan, then went for a 6 mile run and am now eating croissants to compensate for the calories I burned... But I just had a real work phone call interfering with my writing on here. So that is something! As to the fed upness. I think moving to IVF after this cycle is the right thing to do, I am just through with the drudgery that is IUI. Even though this is only the third cycle since my mc...

EuroShaggleton · 17/05/2013 10:23

Thanks for all the kind words, ladies.

Right, so we called the clinic last night and cancelled the cycle. I knew I would have a sleepless night sleeping on it, so we just made a decision. The plan is to try to get in somewhere for a colposcopy in the next three weeks. If that confirms there is nothing more sinister than a mild abnormality lurking, we tell the clinic nothing and go ahead in June. If something more than a mild abnormality is found, then we will have to put off for longer and treat or wait and see if it goes back to normal after a few months as it did before. I think technically you are supposed to have a clear smear before IVF, but god knows how long that could take, and the risk of a mild abnormality turning into cancer is miniscule (less than 3% I think, and then it takes years; 97% chance that it just normalises itself), so if it is confirmed to be no more than that, we would just want to plough on. Plenty of women get preggo naturally with an abnormal smear and it's just followed up afterwards.

There is a chance that it could be mc-related. When I turned up for my smear, I was turned away because the nurse saw on my notes that I was just post-mc. The policy is not to do them for 3 months post birth or mc because they can cause changes to the cervix. I discussed the upcoming IVF with the nurse, and she spoke to the screening folks, and it was agreed that i should do it before the IVF because otherwise it would be 18 months without one if the IVF worked and I am supposed to be on 6 monthly recalls. So I had it just under 2 months after the mc.

So, I have a plan (and I think you all know how much I like a plan) but I just feel heavy-hearted and like I am at the limit of how much I can take.

rabbit I cannot believe you are back to the start of fertility snakes and ladders. FFS.

nelly I hear you on Aintree-sized hurdles! I am reading the new Stephen King at the moment which is about time travel (I'm not going to put in any spoilers by the way, I'm only a little way in). One thing the protagonist discovers is that when he tries to change stuff in the past, the bigger the thing he tries to change, the more obstacles get put in front of him. I feel a bit like that - I'm fighting against the tide.

cosmos it's good the "see" you. I echo the others - FET usually has higher success rates - because the embies have been through so much they are toughies!

drizz I hear you on enjoying the time off. I am getting to the point where I just want an end to all of the fertility crap. Ideally that end would be a baby, but if not I just need it to stop.

There's so much sadness on the thread at the moment. Critter we really needed the boost of your super BFP!

Cosmos1 · 17/05/2013 11:37

Yet Critter! Fantastic news, well done you. Fingers crossed it all goes smoothly from here onwards.

Euro, ffs I am not surprised you are at your wits end, that is really shitty news. Glad you've got a new plan, but its the keep on having to make a new plan that just gets so exhausting doesn't it. By the way the new plan sounds good and as you say very unlikely to turn sinister.

Rabbit sorry for the shitty big snake. Extra form filling and poor admin processes are the last thing you need. Great analogy to snakes and ladders, that is so true.

This is such a lovely thread, that you can be away a while and still get a warm welcome back.

buzzybee123 · 17/05/2013 13:12

hello ladies

euro its frustrating when you get yourself all geared up and then the rug is pulled from under you, I would be a fuitcake by now in your shoes yes I am aware that I already am a fruitcake

rabbit its not acceptable that they are you treating you like this, the NHS is so backwards at times and loses focus on patient care, perhaps its time to get really arsey with them and say this is not acceptable, start threatening to sue that normally worries them

lemon sounds like a good idea to move to IVF, it feels like TTC will never end

cosmos good to see you again and good luck with your FET

Ok ladies I have a bit of a confession, I was woken up by the postman so thought I would prepare myself for tomorrow by testing today Hmm (yes in buzzyland that makes very logical sense) and there was a rather faint line. . . dons hardhat . . now I am not getting too excited as it is still early on and shall test again on the weekend but needless to say I feel like a right moron

Blush

waves to everyone else I have missed

MuddyWellyNelly · 17/05/2013 13:18

Cosmos of course you get a warm welcome SmileI just wish nobody needed to be on here at all.

Euro it's a good plan but a complete arse that you've got to do it. Pulling yourself up by the bootstraps is a bit like a bungee. There is less energy in every bounce back. Eventually I feel like I will just be hanging on a rope with no rebound left, wondering how to get off.

Rabbit super big hugs. There is no way you are going to the bottom of the queue. I think the 10+ers would arrange a noisy protest!

Lol at the Critter-Diff outfit Lemon. Funnily enough I'm thinking of doing a couple of IUIs instead of another immediate IVF. But I'm figuring one egg isn't buying me a massive advantage for the additional 3 grand.

Did anyone see the BBC article about IVF? The process EEVA is done at my clinic but we've not done it as I've never had a choice of eggs. The really interesting part though was the reference to the "£3,000 average cost". Eh, where?????

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MuddyWellyNelly · 17/05/2013 13:20

Buzzy GrinGrinGrinGrinGrinGrin

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EuroShaggleton · 17/05/2013 13:20

buzz!!!! Grin

Would you like French or English mustards with your words? Wink I am absolutely 100% thrilled for you. Yay!

MuddyWellyNelly · 17/05/2013 13:21

Ok now we won't say anything Told You So, Told You So, in manner of spoilt child but this is awesome news. Early early days so I will not say much more other than squueeeee Grin

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mrsden · 17/05/2013 13:40

Buzzy I'm joining in the chorus of I told you so nah nah nah nah nah. Wonderful news. It just goes to show that every pregnancy is different and you can't know until you test.

Critter, I'm still grinning at your news too. It's also fantastic that you have so many on ice for siblings too. At this rate this thread is going o be a pregnancy thread. About time too. I think it was about a year ago we met up and Frannie, gin and princess are all pregnant now. Not bad at all.

Euro, I'm so sorry about the smear. I was wondering if the mc might have affected something. I thi k your plan sounds sensible. I know how frustrated and anxious you'll be though. I hope you get an appointment soon and some answers.

Lemon how was the scan? Is it ivf if this doesn't work? Rabbit, I can't believe they Are still messing you around. I want to give them a piece of my mind on your behalf.

I think I spoke too soon about having no physical effects from ivf. I think I have thrush dammit. Probably from the progesterone pessaries.

I'm a bit fed up with everything at the moment, and probably shouldn't keep posting because I feel a bit doom and gloom. I'm hoping ill pick up and join in again.

CritterPants · 17/05/2013 14:33

buzzy! Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Flowers Happy dance! Also, actual lols at 'would you like French or English mustard with your words?' Grin

mrsd so sorry about the thrush. FFS. Don't go anywhere, this thread is for venting and support when things are crap.

euro Oh hon. I am so sorry, what a bloody nuisance and how frustrating, I can imagine you must think this is some kind of cruel joke. Good to have a plan but how bloody irritating that you have to keep making plans. Angry

Poutintrout · 17/05/2013 14:33

What??????????????? Buzzy a line you say? Grin Fab news.

Euro so sorry about the pain in the arse & very badly timed smear result. You really couldn't make it up and I so feel for you.

lemons Sorry that you are getting worn down by the IUI. I'm not surprised really. You really have been trooping on. Here's hoping that this is the last IUI because it is the magic cycle Smile

So many of you in the tent right now. It is horrible & I offer big hand holds. So much of what you have been saying joy and mrsd resonates. I think in a nutshell, for me personally, it is the life on hold bit that is the biggest ball ache. MrP and I were discussing it yesterday in the car on the way back from the hospital about how many more holiday days would be spent there. I also had the horrible thunder strike realisation that I will be 38 soon and even if we have a baby any time soon I will be nearly 40 by the time it arrives. Depressing stuff.

Had my follow up appointment yesterday. The IVF didn't throw up any obvious reasons for the infertility or cycle failure except that I was a little under stimulated and a proportion of the eggs were small & immature. The not so great news is that I will have to do more baseline scans/cycle monitoring before I can have the FET so I am looking at July. Not an age away but I just hoped to crack on and not have to make more trips up there for scans. Looks like it will be unmedicated which is positive. Just need to hope that Colin survives the thaw. Also a little concerned that he isn't the best quality and that a 4BB didn't make it and this one is 3BB.

critter I'm still marvelling at your wonderful news. Is it sinking in yet?