Excellent (or should that be eggcellent?) egg buddies! Anyone having IVF/ICSI in April/May/June 2013 come and join us!

[EuroShaggleton]

We've almost filled the second thread so here is a new one, so we can carry on chatting! Threads #1 and #2 saw some stunning successes and some sad outcomes. We'll have more of the former and less of the latter on thread #3 please!

All comers welcome. I found it very useful to be with people going through the same thing when I did my first cycle, so if you would like to join us, please come on in!

*not, for fuck's sake.

Resipsa! Resipsa! Resipsa! where are you, Resipsa? How is the menkulling, love? When is OTD? Thinking of you x

I have some gossip news about the Fertility 'Friend': she is considering skipping FET and moving on to a different donor, 'one who has proven fertility this time' Isn't that the first thing everybody demands before choosing a donor? Or is that just me? Buzzy, did you demand proven fertility?

Thanks for your support :-)

I work with children from ages 6 months - 4 years so I am around babies and pregnant people all day every day but being one of our friends just bought it all home. Having been trying for 3/4 years and knowing it should could have been us a long time ago hurts a little. It seems so easy for those people too!

Still, I'm a strong person and will fight for what is important to me! Having you guys to go through all this with makes it a lot easier.

Hopefully soon ill understand the process more after experiencing it so will be able to join in supporting people and answering questions!

jewcy I did have a bit of a at your can't be arsed with cock comment, that combo won't help you get updiffed. No I didn't ask for a proven, my theory is this, I have read about too many women who have a proven and it doesn't work, also I am trusting the clinic that they are telling me the truth, also its not so much about the egg but the sperm and it implanting and that will of course varies from couple to couple, I might of had a proven but I didn't ask them. I can understand that she must be heartbroken but I don't think the odds are that much better with a new donor, FET does seem to have slightly better results than fresh.

nokkie it frightening what is happening under my skirt today, I feel like a bloated cat fish who needs popping, but the acoustics are pretty good

wish sorry to hear about the funeral and the announcement, they are not pleasant, but you have to remember that it is their baby and it will not be as lucky as yours as it won't have you as a parent, my friends are mixed a few couldn't/ choose not to have kids, others have them but alot of my friends don't, those that do have kids do not have a life I would swap at all and at the end of the day its about the whole package.

euro it would be sods law that you would get smacked in the face just after having your stitches out, hows it looking and feeling

I hate to go on about my nether regions but I feel really crap right now, tired bloated slightly head achy and dizzy before, perhaps it was just the delirium of the meeting

Jewcy as whiny and hormonal as my fiancée is I can tell you he's all man! Ha!

Why did you ask? Did I give that impression?

This thread has me in stitches! Thanks all for such amusement in stressful times.
tame You should discuss your anxieties with the clinic. I reckon that these clinics are very reliant on their success rates for future custom, so are always looking to achieve a positive outcome for their clients. Maybe I am being naive, but I presume they are making judgements based on what they think will most likely result in a healthy pregnancy. Big hugs.
jewcy surely you no longer feel the pressure of cock action as your ovulation has become rather irrelevant. I find it a relief on the one hand and rather depressing on the other to be redundant in the whole baby making process. In fact I am now deliberately avoiding any chance of getting pregnant naturally as my age and eggs mean I am more at risk of miscarriage (been there, done that, don't want it again) than if I wait for the eggs of a younger specimen.
wish sorry about your fiancées grandad's departing. 'Friends' who get pregnant when they're not even planning it - that sucks!
buzzy how are you doing? I so hope this is your time! How long til you can test?
AFM I am waiting for the clinic to tell me what the next step is, now we have a donor (albeit no consent forms or anything have been signed yet).
Mr M seems a bit more positive, so I hope it lasts!

Buzzy, you poor thing, you sound rough and having a windy & querulous bowel is only funny for about three minutes in my house I guess you're right about donor eggs and success rates. Now I have another query: I just had an email from my coordinator to tell me she's off on her hols tomorrow for a fortnight and can she remind me to stump up the 4500 euros on 26th She also reminded me about embryo monitoring for an extra 500 euros which, she says, increases the chances of pregnancy by 10%. I've done lots of research and it backs up the clinic's claim. Did you have embryo monitoring, Buzzy?

Is anyone else on here who is having DE IVF going to consider it?

Motor, I know what you mean about pointless squelching. We've squelched like rabbits for sixteen months now and only have a mmc to show for it. I, too, am loathe to get ironidiffed only to lose the little munchkin. I'm so fucking sick of that miscarriage shit; I do not know how women cope with several

That said, I have just dispatched what looks like a week's worth of kiddie snot into my knickers so....

buzz I had a bit of that trouble. Not quite as bad as you describe though! Can you go for a vigorous walk and trump the gas out? I always find gravity and movement really helpful. With years of IBS behind me, I have become quite the expert.

motor I'm glad you seem to be getting there, both with the donor and Mr motor.

I completely get your point about the pointlessness of dtd. I couldn't even bring myself to get that worked up about our post-mc sechsfails.

jewcy you have quite a turn of phrase.

Your poorly pears. My scar is once again hidden under micropore to "splint" it. This is a good thing, as it is putting off me having to look at it!

Ps - wish I think I've identified the source of the confusion. Fiancée is the term for a laydee; it's fiancé for a man. So if you mention the former, people will assume you are a lesbo. Not that there is anything wrong with that of course, just that they might get a bit of a shock when they meet mr wish and think "blimey, this must be one of the really butch ones...."

Ha! Ha! Yes, exactly that, Euro. I wasn't sure how to phrase it and I forgot to reply to you, Wish, when you asked me to explain. The top-and-bottom of it is that it is none of my business anyhow but I do like to welcome a nice lezzer to t'th'read

jewcy monitoring the embryos?? I am a little confused, what does that entail?? I thought that they did that in the lab each day?? Ah make sure you take ID with you, we paid a deposit of 1000 before we left, then paid up the rest after transfer, it was curious to this as I did think once they had put them in they were hardly going to get them back.

euro The joy of sitting at home is I can let off gas when I like, I have no control really, plus at work I can blame it on the patients too I do hope it settles down tough

motor Barry is going away next Monday for two weeks so will test before then I suppose, I think maybe over the weekend as I don't want to stay on the drugs any longer than needed, I did plan to test on Monday but the clinic said the 23rd. Also implantation should have happened by now so things should be happening, if I had sore boobs along with everything else I would be convinced it had work,I'm like you can't be arsed with the shagging anymore

Jewsy sorry didn't reply to your question but I see wish has! I was really surprised when they offered me icsi as I didn't know they did it on nhs either!

Nokkie Clinic were amazingly unhelpful and shrugged their shoulders and said "it's one of those things". I haven't been able to find anything much out from my own research either so maybe they're right...

Buzz poor you!

jewcy I'm unimpressed with the lesbian couple I know. Not a single sperm between them and they got pregnant quicker than us. I mean, FFS.

Heh@blaming the patients, buzz!

I'm all for early testing - patience is not a strong point for me!

Buzzard, this explains Non-Invasive Embryo Monitoring. Th'usband agrees we're going for it. I know it's an extra 500 euros but if we cut out the chippy for the next five weeks we should just about manage it

Laughed my head off at you blaming the Crusties for your farts

Euro, surely your sapphic pals are the quintessence of irony

Ha! That made me nearly wee, it's nearly AF time so there's a lot of pressure down there, please don't make me laugh

Sorry about the fiancé/fiancée confusion, it's autocorrect making me look like a lesbo!

ah I see jewcy but isn't that what they do anyway as the clinics check them everyday, if any abnormalities happen there is nothing that they can do and are usually picked up as they progress. Each day I could ring and they would tell me how each one was progressing, I knew on Day 5 I had the best two put back, one for freezing another possible frostie and the last was fragmenting so was no good, if there had been any problems earlier they would have told me and I would have gone in on Day 3 for transfer, poor chinky chip man will be heartbroken

jewcy just out of interest, how much is their IUI,

Buzzy, this will explain better.

'Until the recent development of non-invasive embryo monitoring, clinics had to rely on static observations where embryos had been removed from the incubator and watched under a microscope. The new equipment continuously monitors embryos with time-lapse video ? a camera that is placed directly in the incubator takes a picture every 20 -30 minutes which helps to evaluate all usual parameters as well as time-depended parameters. There is no need to remove the embryos from the incubator to watch them under a microscope. The embryo?s environment stays constant with optimal temperature and CO2 concentration, so it is safeguarded from changes in temperature, light exposure, etc.'

I just found out from my two Fertility 'Friends' that they both paid for the embryo monitoring; one is pregnant and the other isn't

I haven't any idea about their fee for IUI, sorry.

Just told th'usband I fancied some squelchy time and he went:
Disclaimer: he was watching Arsenal v Wigan at the time.

Its interesting jewcy and 10% better odds are good but I just feel its down to the egg and sperm, perhaps see if others on FF have tried it

Expat good reminder - I really need to get back to the pilates.

The micropore is supposed to stay on until tomorrow, but I'd like to keep it longer as it looks better than what is underneath! The stitches were there because I had a cyst removed from my forehead. It first appeared 3 years ago and looked just like a spot, but it grew slowly over that time. It didn't behave quite like a cyst so they weren't sure what it was until they got it out, but it was one. I bit the bullet and got it cut out because it was only going to get bigger, so the longer I left it, the bigger the scar would have been. It is a small cut though, so I am making a bit of a mountain out of a molehill, but I have ishoos with scars, so getting one on my face by choice (even if it does look better than the cyst) caused a lot of fretting.

I can't believe your PCT didn't fund treatment for male factor. Do they think infertility is a women's issue or something? Grrr. I'm glad you are getting treatment abroad. Can you say where you are, or would that out you? One of the 10+ers is in Beirut and had IVF out there. The methods seemed a bit slapdash but it worked second time for her.

buzz I hope you are feeling better today.

I'm glad it has all worked out expat.

It's not been too painful. I'm reasonably good with pain I think anyway. It was the lead up to it that was the worst bit. I'm a week past the surgery now and other than some slight bruising I can feel if I touch it, it doesn't hurt at all.

Ahhh, the lovely Cape Town - don't you just love Aberdeenshire? Yes, Expat, th'usband is quite resolute about the embryoscope as 'dotting the i's and crossing the t's' in terms of feeling like we have done all we can pity he hasn't quit the fags
Expat, Top Tip: don't answer the phone whilst ironing

IVF in Beirut?! What next? Root canal in Kabul?