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Excellent (or should that be eggcellent?) egg buddies! Anyone having IVF/ICSI in April/May/June 2013 come and join us!

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EuroShaggleton · 31/03/2013 15:35

We've almost filled the second thread so here is a new one, so we can carry on chatting! Threads #1 and #2 saw some stunning successes and some sad outcomes. We'll have more of the former and less of the latter on thread #3 please!

All comers welcome. I found it very useful to be with people going through the same thing when I did my first cycle, so if you would like to join us, please come on in!

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NookNook · 13/05/2013 23:32

Thanks for the welcomes! I'm trying to get up to speed with all your stories.

Tame good luck tomorrow!

Nokkie my storeee. Hmm! Where to start... I'm 34 with amh 1. I've had 2 ivf on nhs and this will be my third and final! First cycle got 5 eggs and put one grade 1 back. No pregnancy. Second cycle got 7 eggs and late fertilisation - still have no idea why or what it means - 2 fertilised (eventually!) and both put back but no pregnancy. This cycle will be icsi and some steroids as well as the usual protocol. I've also been to see Zita West for general wellbeing and I'm currently on a million supplements but I'm just going to give this cycle everything I've got!

wishuponapositive · 13/05/2013 23:36

Jewcy I feel your pain, I'm suffering with my skin badly this month! I have a second head on my jaw and it hurts like a mother trucker! Loads of little ones keep popping up just to make me suffer then they bugger off to allow room for more....

Not happy!!!! Angry

tametortie · 14/05/2013 10:21

I need you guys to talk sense into me. Sad

Got THE call this morning...

Out of 13, 7 were mature and injected and 4 fertilised. Looking ok. Clinic want us to go for blastocyst but I am SO SO scared Sad what if I have nothing left? I've been here before with 5 embryos, let alone 4. Had lots of tears this morning. I should be egging my 4 on, not writing them off already. Im a nob. Hit me. Just so afraid of being left with nothing again.

On a bright note (?!) we have yet more answers. Apparently, I have tough eggs which will be the main cause of failed fertilisation previously. Good to know!! Another plus for donor eggs.....

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EuroShaggleton · 14/05/2013 10:50

Sorry buzz, my last post wasn't clear. I meant getting Barry checked out for health reasons rather than fertility reasons, because there could be an infection or swollen prostate or something behind the decline. Mr euro's SAs have also declined and he now has a urology referral to make sure there is nothing nefarious behind it. It might just be down to the stress of ttc, but it's worth getting checked I reckon.

jewcy I'm also horribly spotty this month.

tame I'm so glad you have got 4 fertilised! That's brilliant. If you're not comfortable going to blasto, can't you get one or two put back and see if the remaining embies can get there? They are your embies - don't let the clinic push you to blasto if you are not comfortable with it.

Welcome expat.

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NookNook · 14/05/2013 11:04

Tame I can imagine it must be so difficult going for blasto with only four embryos. There must be a reason why they want you to go to blast? I agree with Euro though - you must tell them if you're not comfortable with that decision. Better to talk it through wih them than feeling bad the next two weeks.

Welcome Expat when are you due to start?

Jewcy · 14/05/2013 11:16

Nokkie, your post has slapped me round the chops and cheered me. Thank you, my friend

Wish, wanna join me (no pun intended) in a dot-to-dot? Sad

Expat! [waves] Glad you're over here, we have lashings of fun and there's always someone to come on quickly to help if you're having a nervous breakdown unlike the AC thread where you could be dead for four weeks and being devoured by Alsatians before someone passes by

Tame, what a horrible dilemma. So, I take it none of your embryos have ever reached blasto stage? Why do they think it's a good idea to risk it now? Will they put two back sooner and keep an eye on the others (think I'm repeating euro)? I'm sorry I can't be firmer with my advice, except I keep reading of success stories where seemingly-feeble embies are transferred at day 2/3 and they become healthy pregnancies. Ugh. My advice is rubbish, I'm sorry.

NookNook, do they do ICSI on the NHS??

Nokks, The Ivy?? And how old were you when you booked that?

Jewcy · 14/05/2013 11:25

Thinking of you, Buzzy, back at work. Kick some ass at that meeting and downright insist on softer toilet paper in the staff bogs

buzzybee123 · 14/05/2013 11:26

tamie I agree with euro they are yours, i'd wait and see what they say over the next day or two then make a decision.

euro ah sorry Barry has had a few check ups loads of blood tests and had his heart checked out to stop the aunt nagging us about it, he could do but I don't see him being that fussed, he is pretty good health but can only see what he says

work is crap, I feel like crap, wish I had stayed at home Sad i'm having terrible problems today, I feel sick as but mainly because I have had to listen to a patient tell me how handsome the physio is Hmm well yes i'm not fecking blind lady Wink

hello expat and others

buzzybee123 · 14/05/2013 12:01

I have oldageitis and I am obsessing about my bowel movements Grin I have indigestion is that not a good sign, boobs are only sore as I keep poking them, implantation should have happened by now,

jewcy yes I need good grade bog roll, I have had terrible wind today Shock god help anyone who stands down wind of me, any news from your ff lady

EuroShaggleton · 14/05/2013 12:15

Same as Mr euro then. He's slim and healthy but his sperm count has dropped by more than two thirds over the past couple of years. He's had a scan to check kidney, bladder and prostate, which was all normal bar one minor issue. He's now waiting for urine and blood test results. If those are all clear, we will put it down to ttc stress!

Sorry you are feeling crap today buzz.

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tametortie · 14/05/2013 12:30

Expat? welcome. I second heavy, as you can see these girls are supporting me loads!!

buzzybee123 · 14/05/2013 12:42

we had discussed have a full MOT as I think it wouldn't hurt, well only financially but I think we are just of that age when things start to fall off Hmm I can see what he says but does depend on our NHS, I feel I am his biggest stress along with the job situation,

I have been looking at the adoption boards, not sure when to start as it will depend on what happens over the next 2 weeks with this job situation, think it could be a pain in the ass if we are in different parts of the country

tametortie · 14/05/2013 12:46

Not heavy, jewcy!!

Jewcy · 14/05/2013 12:54

Heavy feels apt Sad

My drugs are being dispatched! Smile

I just fell over outside the greengrocers Sad

I'm ovulating! Smile

I can't be arsed with cock action Sad

Jewcy · 14/05/2013 12:56

Number9Buzz, poor FF lady has 'gone dark'. Hope she's okay Sad

tametortie · 14/05/2013 13:24

Gone dark? What does that mean?

Nokkie73 · 14/05/2013 13:56

Afternoon Ladies.....and joos Grin

joos you are more than welcome. It's so hard to stay positive all the damn time through this process, especially when you see stories of people who don't succeed. You never know, some cockage may cheer you up, so don't make any hasty decisions about whether to drag the chippy slag upstairs for a quick game of hunt the sausage just yet. I booked The Ivy the day before. It isn't as popular as it once was but still a lovely place to have a bit of scran and treat Ma Noks. Are you upright now ?

tame I am really pleased for you ! Four fertilised is really good. You're not exactly writing your four off just yet but I think the attitude of the clinic is putting you in a panicky frame of mind. They are YOUR embies and, to be honest, they/you can only make a decision whether to take them to blasto stage at day three. I think I told you that I had four fertilised and at day three, two were perfect eight cell embies, one was six and the other one was 12 cell. The embryologist made the decision to put the perfect two back inside me at day three, because the other two weren't at the stage they would have expected at day three. I.e., better to pop the perfect two back where they should be, as opposed to taking the chance and leaving them all to day five, when I could have been left with none. Now, there is an argument which says that the perfect two should have been left until day five because they were strong and had excellent grading (one was grade A and had no fragmentation at all, one was grade B with only slight fragmentation) but I guess they didn't really have any faith in the other two to come good at day five so in reality they had two decent ones to 'play with', and better that they put them back in when all is at it should be rather than taking them to day five when i could be left with nothing and therefore have had a wasted cycle. This was the guiding factor in their decision to call us back at day three. So, this is a fecking long winded way of saying that they and you should assess the situation at day three and you should not be forced into taking to blasto stage if you would rather not. I know that your head is all over the place because of what you have been through, and understandably so, but you need to wrestle some control back from the clinic here or they may railroad you into taking unnecessary chances. Just think Uma Thurman in Kill Bill if you need any inspiration !

Nook thanks for sharing ! Did you ever find out what late fertilisation is? The clinic should explain it to you so that either you or they can stop it from happening next time. Where are you, out of interest ?

expat welcome ! Tell us your storeeeeee Wink

buzz sounds as though there's something very alarming going on under your skirts today. Just make sure you don't take off with all that excess air about your person.

wish & euro hello gorgeous ladies.

Noks x

buzzybee123 · 14/05/2013 14:37

gone dark that sounds a little bit scary Sad sorry you fell over i'm in crap meeting now

wishuponapositive · 14/05/2013 16:42

Jewcy Just to answer you're question (I don't think anyone else answered it) they do ICSI on the NHS, it's something the doctors have recommended for us!

I'm a little down today, it was my fiancées Grandads funeral and I then get home to find out on Facebook of all places that one of our friends is pregnant, actually a friends girlfriend we're not a fan of her which makes it worse which was a kick in the teeth. Obviously we're pleased for them but the last we heard they weren't having any more so... Ouch :-(

Jewcy · 14/05/2013 16:45

'Gone dark' is a term used by Jack Bauer in the eponymous '24' series. It describes his 'going underground' or disappearing off the face of the earth to avoid detection by the baddies, eg: [Bauer's Boss]: Where the fuck is Jack when we need him to defuse the bomb which is threatening to annihilate the First Lady who iz black, innit?' [Bauer's colleague]: 'Dunno Guv, fink e's gone dark.'

Yes, I am upright but cursing potholes and unhelpful greengrocers: 'watch me fruit!'

NokkedUp, late fertilisation is when the bus that the sperm is travelling on breaks down and they turn up, on foot, dishevelled and exhausted having only been able to grab a Greggs pastie on the way

Jewcy · 14/05/2013 16:48

*Pliz to ignore the misuse of 'eponymous'. I iz thick, innit.

EuroShaggleton · 14/05/2013 16:51

jewcy sorry you fell over. Are you bruised?

I just went to have my stitches taken out and on the way into the tube station afterwards, the woman next to me fell down and almost belted me in the face with her bag...

Sorry about the funeral and announcement, wish. FB announcements are never good.

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Jewcy · 14/05/2013 16:57

Wish, unfortunately there are hordes of women on facebook getting diffed. I simply pretend that social media is a series of fairy tales and, as such, not to be believed. I look at the pictures and the captions laughing, knowing that there is no such thing as pregnant women, cute dogs being rescued by pulchritudinous GIs or Candy Crush.

I'm sorry about the death of your other half's grandad Sad

Jewcy · 14/05/2013 17:01

Wish, I am being nosy: are you marrying a woman, pliz?

Euro, good-o about the stitches: how do you look? Believe me: no matter how great the job on your head looks today, it is nothing in comparison to how beautifully it will heal. I am bruised, yes, but nor as much as my poor pears.

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