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Excellent (or should that be eggcellent?) egg buddies! Anyone having IVF/ICSI in April/May/June 2013 come and join us!

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EuroShaggleton · 31/03/2013 15:35

We've almost filled the second thread so here is a new one, so we can carry on chatting! Threads #1 and #2 saw some stunning successes and some sad outcomes. We'll have more of the former and less of the latter on thread #3 please!

All comers welcome. I found it very useful to be with people going through the same thing when I did my first cycle, so if you would like to join us, please come on in!

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wishuponapositive · 12/05/2013 12:19

Well, talking about poo and wee and Chinese chippies sounds amazing! Exactly what I need...

That should really be advertised on the home page to lure more people in Wink

resipsa · 12/05/2013 12:47

You lot are too quick for me. I blame the hormones. Obviously, I'm usually much sharperWink.
I hope everyone is doing OK whenever (physically, geographically, mentally) they may be.
Can I selfishly ask another question? In your (quite wide it seems) experience, do the progesterone supplements delay any AF bleed until you stop them? I'm on knicker watch and if I knew it was unlikely that I'd have a bleed before OTD, it'd be a lot less painful (I'm a coward who goes as little as possible these days).

resipsa · 12/05/2013 12:52

And I blame them too for the typos - whenever should read wherever.

wishuponapositive · 12/05/2013 13:10

After having a convo about diet with my fiancée this morning, he wants us both to go on the 5:2 diet where you eat normally for 5 days and fast for 2 (eating no more than 600 calories). I'm relatively slim so not looking to loose weight but the bbc did a study and it proves to be extremely healthy to eat this way.

I'm unsure where it is a good idea whilst TTC as there's a worry that it effects hormones? Does anyone have any idea?

I'm not trying to find an excuse at all, there is no way that I eat, breathe and crap chocolate day in day out Grin

wishuponapositive · 12/05/2013 13:12

Sorry, I am new to all this so can't answer your question.

I didn't want to come across rude xxx

Jewcy · 12/05/2013 13:52

Resipsa, don't quote me but I think the progesterone prevents any spotting.

Wish, fuck the 5:2 diet. Read the diet threads on mumsnet and you'll find a lot of hungry and not-any-thinner women.

Jewcy · 12/05/2013 14:01

In other news, Neal's Yard Frankincense Nourishing Cream is the dog's testickulays; I actually look twelve.

Where are my fucking mates..? Sad

Nokkie73 · 12/05/2013 14:06

Fucking hell applejoos you're not going to recreate the scene in Ghost with this ceramicist are you ? [Wink] I do hope you managed to get all the triple ply out of your fanjo before you went to guzzle tea and stuff lemon drizzle in your gob. Oh hang on a minute, are you getting th'husband back for being a man hoe down the chippy with a bit of 'oooohhhh would you like to pop something in my kiln' ? I bet you are, aren't you.....

wish sounds as though you have been through it a bit. Do you know what protocol you're on ? What hospital are you with ? That 5:2 diet is supposed to be really good but the general advice especially when going through ivf is not to diet. You should be eating healthily and having loads of protein to help your eggs so it may not be the best time to go in that particular regime. I know that they do advise that if you are overweight, you lose weight before undergoing ivf but if you're slim anyway, I wouldn't. Talk to the hospital when you go this week if you are unsure.

res the progesterone definitely did delay AF for me but it really is different for everyone. I know ladies on FF who were on them but AF came before OTD.

buzzybee123 · 12/05/2013 14:14

afternoon me ladies I am back in the land of shops open on a sunday and where bank cards are not some weird plastic thing you carry in your purse and where you can jay walk without fear of being taken away and beaten

seriously we were told off by the police Confused

i'm in a maga foul mood tired sickly and mad as a hatter, ffok you steroids

wish I would recommend the diet I think its great and alot easier than you first think, also slimming world, easiest diet ever

jewcy I will check my emails later for frostie news

respia yes the progesterone will stop spotting

Jewcy · 12/05/2013 14:17

NokkThe9O'ClockNews, yes..yes, I am if I get the chance. Fidelity has gone out the window now that th'usband's sperm will be committing adultery with another broad's eggs. A forrin bird to boot.

You take your poncey middle-class lemon drizzle and shove it up your chocolate starfish, 'mate'. It's hot cherry pie and Cornish ice cream for me.

Jewcy · 12/05/2013 14:20

Resipsa, ignore NokkiaCharger, the 5:2 doesn't work. Why? 'Cos on t'other five days you're circling your fridge like a murder of crows around a..erm..small, prey-like cadaver..um..thingie..

Where.Are.My.Bastard.Mates?? Angry

Nokkie73 · 12/05/2013 14:41

Welcome back buzz. I am sorry the steroids have turned you into a raving lunatic. Are you able to have a bit of a relaxing afternoon ?

joosieminj don't you norverners ever stop eating fucking pies ?

tametortie · 12/05/2013 14:59

Hello all.

Egg collection tomorrow. Sitting here going mad thinking I did the trigger shot wrong. The needle went in my leg, there was nothing left in the prefilled pen and the needle was even bent because I pressed it in so hard. What the fuck is wrong with me?!

buzzybee123 · 12/05/2013 15:06

tamie I am sure that it went in, I felt the same about my DR drug as I did it in my stomach and not my ass, you will be fine, what time are you going in for EC

noks steroids and beta blockers are the work of the devil Wink

tametortie · 12/05/2013 15:55

EC at 9am.

Then the shit part starts for us. 2 cycles previously; one with no fertilisation, another with no blasties at the end.

Lord help us over these next few days. I feel like a bag of shit worrying about it all.

And if one more friend texts me saying 'good luck' I'll shove my phone up DH's arse.

Nokkie73 · 12/05/2013 16:06

tame may I ask what they are doing differently for you this time ? On your last cycle, did you get to day three at all or when you say no blasties, do you mean blastocysts ? Xx

tametortie · 12/05/2013 16:10

We got to day 3. Even day 4. Just not day 5.

We egg shared both times. This time I have all my own eggs. Its a numbers game but doesn't help when you give half your chances away.

We will have ICSI, I've had DHEA for 3months, acupuncture,scratch biopsy etc.

Can't really do anything else.

tametortie · 12/05/2013 16:12

Just scared today. How are you feeling Noks? X

Nokkie73 · 12/05/2013 17:23

tame at least you have done something (lots of things by the sound of it) differently so hopefully it will produce a different result this time. Did they not give you the chance of putting your embies back in at day 3 ? They took the decision to put both mine back in at day three because by then two were at the eight cell stage, one was six cell and the other was twelve cells (I had four fertilised eggs). I asked the consultant why they decided not to take them to day five and he said that had all four of them been at eight cell, they would have done. However, because two were exactly where they should have been at day three but no more, they didn't want to take the chance and leave them until day five so back in they went. I know it didn't work for me but i understood their rationale. Did they explain why they didn't give you the option of a three-day transfer ? It's perfectly natural to be scared so don't fight it. Just make sure that you come on here and vent a bit if you can't in the real world. We will all help you as much as we can. Promise ?

I am also feeling scared. Every time I go to the loo I am just dreading there being any blood. But, I know how lucky I am to be in this situation so I will not moan about it, especially not on here.

Xx

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EuroShaggleton · 12/05/2013 17:46

wish I was considering trying 5:2 to lose the pounds I put on by consoling myself with chocolate after my MC before my next IVF cycle, but I read that it is not advised if ttc. And frankly IVF itself - popping out a year's worth of eggs in one go, undergoing GA/sedation and having minor surgery, shedloads of stress and possibly a pregnancy to sustain at the end of it - is not the time to be depriving your body of nutrients.

tame it sounds like you have done everything you could. And you will have more eggs to play with this time. It really is a numbers game.

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tametortie · 12/05/2013 17:56

Noks- moan away! God knows, if this works I'll be a frigging nightmare!!

We weren't given the option of a 3 day transfer which I feel really pissed off about now. I felt pressured that getting to a 5 day transfer was the only option. At 3 days, out of 5 embryos, we only had a 4 cell, 2 x 6 cell, a 7 cell and an 8 cell. All grade 2/3. I think they should have gone back in at that point because its obvious we didnt have a bumper crop!!

Instead, we went through the hell of a call on day 4 saying 'all looks good with one of them, its turned into a morula so should be blast by tomorrow'. Then to go in for transfer and the 'good embie' to have reverted back to a 9 cell overnight.

That was our second cycle. 1st cycle was no fertilisation at all.

So you can see from this, we have never actually had a proper 2 ww with hopes and dreams.

I hope to god we get some good embryos this time. Even if it doesnt work. 1 blastocyst will convince me all is not lost at least.

I have lost 12 pounds for this cycle by snacking on almonds instead of sweets. Everyone says they are really fatty but they are so filling, I think that counterbalances the fat content cos you go longer without naughty stuff.

Jewcy · 12/05/2013 18:12

Buzzy, great that you're home but boo! to feeling like a psychopath. Remember it's the drugs and give yourself a hug for being so brave and pioneering (you're a pioneer to me, anyway) x

Tame, can I echo everything Nokks said? You've never tried this exact protocol before so try not to get dragged down by past attempts preying on your mind. This is brand new. It could really be your time. Take courage and good luck for tomorrow. Do come back and let us know how you get on x

Some corpulent cocksucker at the tea rooms ate the very last slice of cherry pie. I was incandescent and my apoplexy was in no way assuaged by the poor man's school dinner jam sponge and custard I threw down me neck. Moreover, the steaming hot ceramicist wasn't there (boo!) but I did purchase some gorgeous antique chandelier earrings (yay!) Fucking clip-ons! Th'usband called me Pat Butcher when I got home Grin

buzzybee123 · 12/05/2013 18:20

well my cat is now fat Shock I've only be away a week and she has gained 500gms !! I am flatly refusing to think about the 5 kilos I have most likely gained

tamie it really is a numbers game, two years ago I fell pregnant first go and now Hmm well Barry was labelled with Asthenoteratozoospermie in Brno, when last August he produced some pretty good SA. I think it does all vary from month to month for both men and women, which I can now understand why they say give it grateful to ICSI, you need to feel comfortable with the people who you are dealing with though as at the end of the day its your future they are deciding on.

jewcylucy I will email the clinic tomorrow, as its Sunday and Brno pretty much shuts down from Saturday lunchtime, I think at least one will be good enough for the freezer, I had 1 x HB, 1 x XB which are now B1 and B2 Grin then 1 xEB and 2 x CM with one looking like it might fragment, I really have no idea what any of that means

my mood has slightly improved by the fact I have had a decent cuppa :)

tametortie · 12/05/2013 18:21

Thanks Jewcy- dead right. This is brand new. I feel 'haunted' by our past bad luck today. Need to snap the hell out of it.

Just had a nosy at your photos Jewcy- I love your hair!! I wish I could carry off a cute blonde gamine style. I wear a brunette frizz bomb on me 'ead and I hate it.

buzzybee123 · 12/05/2013 18:33

sorry my cat keeps walking over my laptop too fecking lazy to proof read

boo hiss to no steaming hot ceramicist, to be honest with my mood the guy would have just coughed up the cherry pie, I was ready to rugby tackle the pleb at the airport earlier Hmm

tamie I can understand that you feel haunted by the past but tomorrow is the beginning of something totally new and exciting and scary :)

where is this photo jewcy we need to see your Pat Butchers